Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2020

[Quaker2001 255]

International Gymnastics Federation releases draw for Tokyo Olympics

[hckošice 15,521]

so Barbora can grab with some luck some autograph from American ladies then

[dcro 10,210]

Of course both our athletes are in the worst (1st) subdivision. It's kind of a running tradition.

[OlympicIRL 5,660]

6 hours ago, dcro said:

Of course both our athletes are in the worst (1st) subdivision. It's kind of a running tradition.

Why is it the worst subdivision?  

[dcro 10,210]

24 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said:

Why is it the worst subdivision?  

Rank order bias. Performances can only ever be compared to the preciding ones, not the ones that follow, and there is a tendency in humans to overemphesize novel positive features (like for example when we are out shopping and comparing things). Another thing is that at a start of a competition, judges may be more reluctant to award minimal deductions.

 

Of course these judges are professionals, but it can add up, sometimes resulting with athletes going late in the draw getting more leniency.

[thiago_simoes 1,441]

The first subdivision is always bad. No one wants to go first.

 

On the women's side, ,  and  could greatly benefit from being in the last subdivision. ,  and  were out of luck, and it will be especially hard for Urara Ashikawa to reach beam finals now, unless she does something truly remarkable. Mai Murakami also might suffer competing first, especially because her floor routine could be outscored by the Americans, Russians and even French, Canadians and Brazilians who will compete much later.  Iordache will get to compete in the same subdivision the  will be in, so it's going to be interesting to see if her scores will go up by this proximity. In my opinions, judges more often than not score the Americans higher -- sometimes, WAY higher -- than they deserve, so judges might "forget" about some deductions for Iordache too, if they're willing to do so. Let's see.

 

On the men's side, things are usually more fair, but the first subdivision is still undesired.  will not suffer so much because Srbic will compete on the high bar in the very last rotation, so judges will have a clear view of the field by then, especially after , ,  and  will have competed on the apparatus. So, it's not the end of the world for Srbic.  Zonderland, on the other hand, will start on the high bar and he's definitely going to be scored a couple of tenths lower than he would have been had he competed in the last subdivision. Basically, the worst possible draw for him.  Georgious has enough potential to reach at lest one of the event finals, but competing in the first subdivision will hurt his chances. The last subdivision is going to be especially interesting for the Rings, because , ,  will compete.

[vinipereira 3,460]

 

Men's Team

Arthur Nory

Caio Souza

Diogo Soares

Francisco Barretto Jr

 

Arthur Zanetti (individual)

[IoNuTzZ 311]

Well Iordache was supoosed to compete at Flanders International but her mom passed away.

[OlympicIRL 5,660]

6 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:

The first subdivision is always bad. No one wants to go first.

 

On the women's side, ,  and  could greatly benefit from being in the last subdivision. ,  and  were out of luck, and it will be especially hard for Urara Ashikawa to reach beam finals now, unless she does something truly remarkable. Mai Murakami also might suffer competing first, especially because her floor routine could be outscored by the Americans, Russians and even French, Canadians and Brazilians who will compete much later.  Iordache will get to compete in the same subdivision the  will be in, so it's going to be interesting to see if her scores will go up by this proximity. In my opinions, judges more often than not score the Americans higher -- sometimes, WAY higher -- than they deserve, so judges might "forget" about some deductions for Iordache too, if they're willing to do so. Let's see.

 

On the men's side, things are usually more fair, but the first subdivision is still undesired.  will not suffer so much because Srbic will compete on the high bar in the very last rotation, so judges will have a clear view of the field by then, especially after , ,  and  will have competed on the apparatus. So, it's not the end of the world for Srbic.  Zonderland, on the other hand, will start on the high bar and he's definitely going to be scored a couple of tenths lower than he would have been had he competed in the last subdivision. Basically, the worst possible draw for him.  Georgious has enough potential to reach at lest one of the event finals, but competing in the first subdivision will hurt his chances. The last subdivision is going to be especially interesting for the Rings, because , ,  will compete.

Rhys McClenaghan will be in subdivision 1. Do you know in which rotation he will compete on pommel?

[maestro 684]

47 minutes ago, OlympicIRL said:

Rhys McClenaghan will be in subdivision 1. Do you know in which rotation he will compete on pommel?

His group will start from floor exercise, so pommel will be their next apparatus, in rotation 2.