Werloc 3,127 Posted February 2, 2018 #241 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Dimast said: Sport should be without politics. Didn't you guys already cross that line? NearPup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted February 2, 2018 #242 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just to be clear: CAS didn't say anyone was innocent, only that in some of the cases (definitely not all) the existing evidence was not exactly strong enough to prove the guilt of the specific athletes, not that there was no doping system. There having been a huge doping system is not being doubted in any way (apart from the "oh my gosh it's all a conspiracy" people of course). If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Mezhgorye 135 Posted February 2, 2018 #243 Share Posted February 2, 2018 56 минут назад, heywoodu сказал: Just to be clear: CAS didn't say anyone was innocent, only that in some of the cases (definitely not all) the existing evidence was not exactly strong enough to prove the guilt of the specific athletes, not that there was no doping system. There having been a huge doping system is not being doubted in any way (apart from the "oh my gosh it's all a conspiracy" people of course). This is the main problem. IOC had to prove everything and ban all Russian Olympic sports for 2 years. But they hurried, and now they themselves have received from CAS. Should be guided by the European judicial system. If it proves they are guilty, disqualification. If you have not proved it, then apologize. And Bach looked like a coward. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted February 3, 2018 #244 Share Posted February 3, 2018 It looks like a Swiss court has rejected some Russian appeals, including those of speed skaters Yuskov and Kulizhnikov and EPO-biathletes Starykh and Loginov. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1060977/exclusive-swiss-court-rejects-appeals-by-six-russian-athletes-barred-from-pyeongchang-2018 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted February 3, 2018 #245 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Meanwhile RT says 15 athletes (of those 28 who won at CAS earlier when there was not enough evidence to specifically prove their guilt) may still be invited by the IOC. https://www.rt.com/news/417779-russia-athletes-olympics-cleared/ Edited February 3, 2018 by heywoodu If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted February 3, 2018 #246 Share Posted February 3, 2018 il y a 48 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré: It looks like a Swiss court has rejected some Russian appeals, including those of speed skaters Yuskov and Kulizhnikov and EPO-biathletes Starykh and Loginov. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1060977/exclusive-swiss-court-rejects-appeals-by-six-russian-athletes-barred-from-pyeongchang-2018 Soooo... is it now possible for the IOC to life ban anyone caught in doping offence (regardless of nationality) ? If so, it would mean a quasi life ban for athletes in most olympic sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,702 Posted February 3, 2018 Author #247 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FC Mezhgorye 135 Posted February 3, 2018 #248 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 2 часа назад, heywoodu сказал: It looks like a Swiss court has rejected some Russian appeals, including those of speed skaters Yuskov and Kulizhnikov and EPO-biathletes Starykh and Loginov. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1060977/exclusive-swiss-court-rejects-appeals-by-six-russian-athletes-barred-from-pyeongchang-2018 Sport Express: the decision will be on Monday https://www.sport-express.ru/olympics/pyeongchang2018/news/istochnik-predstaviteli-mok-vozdeystvovali-na-sud-no-reshenie-po-shesterym-rossiyanam-budet-v-ponedelnik-1367094/ Edited February 3, 2018 by FC Mezhgorye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestmen 2,566 Posted February 3, 2018 #249 Share Posted February 3, 2018 what about the Mechanical doping Cyril Fontaine Sport: CyclingDuration: 5 yearsSubstance: hidden motor Source: here DaniSRB and Dimast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimast 88 Posted February 3, 2018 #250 Share Posted February 3, 2018 6 часов назад, heywoodu сказал: of those 28 who won at CAS earlier when there was not enough evidence to specifically prove their guilt Yes, dont forget this everywhere and always specify. If there is no evidence of guilt, then they are INCONVENT. It's all opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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