Agger 1,591 Posted June 1, 2016 #41 Share Posted June 1, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mkbw50 said: Why not T20 cricket in Olympics? Interest in enough countries: India Sri Lanka Pakistan Australia New Zealand South Africa Afghanistan UK LOTS of Caribbean countries There could be 12, 16, etc teams There could be UK team comprised of mostly England players West Indies could have independent teams (like in Caribbean Premier League e.g. St. Lucia Zouks, Barbados Tridents) Already played at 2010 and 2014 Asian Games Could help tap cricket into key markets i.e. US, China as there is more chance of them watching if it is in the Olympics, a bit like sports such as shooting or archery. One major weakness is that it's not very big in USA and Europe (with UK as an exception), who are both major players. It could possibly help on this problem for the sport, but I believe it would need more "strong" countries to have a chance. The only chance I see, is if the Olympics went to one of the countries mentioned, and they wanted it there. I wouldn't mind though, as Denmark is one of the strongest European nations and would thereby be closer to the Olympics than we will ever get in water polo, basketball or hockey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted June 1, 2016 #42 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I don't see any problem with any of those sports being added, my only issue is the limited quota all of them will have. Especially the case of karate and climbing. I just hope that for Baseball and Softball they don't give continental quotas. Just make a world qualifier and have the best 5 teams qualify (maybe the world baseball classic?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,167 Posted June 1, 2016 #43 Share Posted June 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Mkbw50 said: Why not T20 cricket in Olympics? Interest in enough countries: India Sri Lanka Pakistan Australia New Zealand South Africa Afghanistan UK LOTS of Caribbean countries There could be 12, 16, etc teams There could be UK team comprised of mostly England players West Indies could have independent teams (like in Caribbean Premier League e.g. St. Lucia Zouks, Barbados Tridents) Already played at 2010 and 2014 Asian Games Could help tap cricket into key markets i.e. US, China as there is more chance of them watching if it is in the Olympics, a bit like sports such as shooting or archery. It would help if the ICC got it's governence in order. Frankly I oppose cricket joining the Olympics on philosophical grounds as long as they keep segregating test nations from the peasant associate nations. They would also need to, well, apply to join the Olympics. They seem reluctant so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,140 Posted June 1, 2016 #44 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Baseball/softball to replace rugby/golf for the "hosts sports wishes" and even they are so-so... The rest aren't even sports and have no place in the Olympics. While they are at it, why not choose also video games and Ninja Warrior. Bet they would bring more interest in Japan than the others... opruh and Gianlu33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniSRB 896 Posted June 1, 2016 #45 Share Posted June 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, Federer91 said: Baseball/softball to replace rugby/golf for the "hosts sports wishes" and even they are so-so... The rest aren't even sports and have no place in the Olympics. While they are at it, why not choose also video games and Ninja Warrior. Bet they would bring more interest in Japan than the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkbw50 381 Posted June 1, 2016 #46 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would support the addition of both As now we come across the world To share these Games of old Let all the flags of every land In brotherhood unfold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agger 1,591 Posted June 1, 2016 #47 Share Posted June 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, Federer91 said: Baseball/softball to replace rugby/golf for the "hosts sports wishes" and even they are so-so... The rest aren't even sports and have no place in the Olympics. While they are at it, why not choose also video games and Ninja Warrior. Bet they would bring more interest in Japan than the others... What do you define as sports, since they aren't sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,872 Posted June 1, 2016 #48 Share Posted June 1, 2016 3 hours ago, LDOG said: I don't see any problem with any of those sports being added, my only issue is the limited quota all of them will have. Especially the case of karate and climbing. I just hope that for Baseball and Softball they don't give continental quotas. Just make a world qualifier and have the best 5 teams qualify (maybe the world baseball classic?). if it's gonna be the case, it's already decided that the Olympic qualifying tournament will be the Premier 12 in 2019... and since Premier 12 is made only by the best 12 teams in the World Ranking, we can be sure that there won't be much regard to the Continental representation (even if I guess that they would guarantee the start of at least 3 Continents, giving th berths to the 3 medallists, Japan - host of the Games - the next best American team and the next best non Asian/American team)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,199 Posted June 1, 2016 #49 Share Posted June 1, 2016 hace 3 minutos, phelps said: if it's gonna be the case, it's already decided that the Olympic qualifying tournament will be the Premier 12 in 2019... and since Premier 12 is made only by the best 12 teams in the World Ranking, we can be sure that there won't be much regard to the Continental representation (even if I guess that they would guarantee the start of at least 3 Continents, giving th berths to the 3 medallists, Japan - host of the Games - the next best American team and the next best non Asian/American team)... The main issue is whether to give a direct quota to Europe or not, with Africa is not even a debatable... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 896 Posted June 1, 2016 #50 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) My two escudos: Baseball/Softball. Baseball is not less an international sport that water polo or field hockey. One of the biggest cons of the sport was always the cost for a dedicated sport infrastructure, something that is obviously not a issue in Tokyo. Why not, then ? On the other hand, softball is a very, very minor international sport and has no business to be in the olympics. Drop Softball, have a proper - men - baseball 12 team tournament. Reassess it after Tokyo. Karate: Only if we ditch taekwondo in the process. Too much redundancy between the two. Surfing. Despite growing up in an heavy surfing/skateboarding culture (mostly made of wanabee though, my younger myself included), I certainly don't support surfing inclusion. The sport is far from global, being only popular in some smallish regional pockets. Judging controversies are common. A large part of its fanbase considers it as a 'culture' first and foremost, and not a sport in the tradiontional - IOC - way. It can also be a very, very lame spectacle. Skateboarding: To me, it sounds like the church bringing a guitar, a few colorfull shirts and thinking that they will appeal to the youth that way. Hint: It doesen't work and it makes you desesperate and ridiculous. All the surfing cons in worse (+ a split between governing bodies). No, not even close. What were they thinking ? © Sport climbing: Actually the only sport that I fully support the inclusion of. It's fresh, it offers something trully new, the sport is fully supportive of its inclusion. And it's actually a somehow spectator-friendly sport. My concern is the combined event, I'd have much prefered to have a propper speed and bouldering event. Generally speaking, I don't get the IOC and the japanese OC. The process and the sport's choices make very little sense to me. PS: we need a dedicated sport program thread Edited June 1, 2016 by De_Gambassi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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