phelps 6,990 Posted January 31, 2023 #71 Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 6:46 PM, rafalgorka said: And wrestling greco-Roman events on day 5 in LA?? this is what I could find about it... Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 52kg: URS / BUL / JPN (but ROU was a better wrestler in the years immediately before and after, despite losing to JPN in the early stages in LA). Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 74kg: this is really a mess... there are at least 2 legitimate people who were better than the rest in that period, URS & SWE; then, FIN, POL, BUL and ROU have exchanged places on the podium in the main tournaments of those years. so, we can reasonably say URS / SWE and then you can flip the coin for bronze. all this, despite the actual medals of the 2 events at the center of our poll. Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's +100kg: you can go with the FR Games podium here: BUL / CUB / URS (even if URS was definitely better than the Cuban in those years, who finished ahead of him most likely because of a favourable draw). rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #72 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Day 5 continued. Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 52kg 1. Benur Pashayan URS FR1 2. Velin Dogandiysky BUL FR2 3. Atsuji Miyahira JPN LA1 Wrestling Greco-Roman - Men's 74 kg 1. Mikhail Mamiashvili URS FR1 2. Jouko Salomaki FIN LA1 3. Roger Tallroth SWE LA2 Wresling Greco-Roman - Men's +100kg 1. Nikola Dinev BUL FR1 2. Candido Mesa CUB FR2 3. Evgeni Artyukhin URS FR3 I listened to phelps here. The only change is that in this simulation I assumpt that sb who was 2nd in LA can't beat LA champion (and sb who was 2nd in FR can't be FR Champ_ That's why there is silver for FIN and bronze for SWE in 74kg cat. No medals for POL in wrestling today, although Roman Kierpacz was 3rd and Andrzej Supron was 2nd in FR, 52 and 74kg respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #73 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Medal table after Day 5, part 2 (47 events) 15-9-11---35 13-5-8---26 6-5-1---12 4-12-5---21 2-3-1---6 2-2-2---6 2-2-1---5 2-1-1---4 1-0-0---1 0-2-4---6 0-2-3---5 0-1-4---5 0-1-1---2 0-1-0---1 0-1-0---1 0-0-2---2 0-0-2---2 0-0-1---1 0-0-1---1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #74 Share Posted February 4, 2023 The last event of day 5 Weightlifting - Men's 75 kg (Middlewewight) 1. Zdravko Stoichkov BUL 377.5 kg FR1 2. Vladimir Kuznetsov URS 362.5 kg FR2 and there is a problem with bronze medal because we have a tie: Istvan Messzi HUN 340 kg FR3 Karl-Heinz Radschinsky FRG 340 kg LA1 Radschinsky body-weight in LA was 74.30 kg can't find Messzi body-weight in FR, but in Seoul 1988 he got silver in 82.5 kg category No good solution here, but I think in ties like here we can be in favour of the real LA olympic champion So: 1. BUL 2. URS 3. FRG here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #75 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Medal table after Day 5 (48 events) 15-10-11---36 13-5-8---26 7-5-1---13 4-12-5---21 2-3-1---6 2-2-3---7 2-2-1---5 2-1-1---4 1-0-0---1 0-2-4---6 0-2-3---5 0-1-4---5 0-1-1---2 0-1-0---1 0-1-0---1 0-0-2---2 0-0-2---2 0-0-1---1 0-0-1---1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #76 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) So after Day 5 USSR in leading medal table and they have 10 (!!!) more medals in total than hosts USA. I wonder of this could really happen on US soil and how much exciment would it make both in US and USSR back in '84. BUL is having extraordinary olympics, 7 golds in 5 days. Still no gold for China. Sweden, Finland, Japan and Cuba among new countries who get their first medals on day 5. Poland with 2 medals only, both in shooting, but another 2 medals in wrestling were very close on day 5. No gold for Poland yet. Romania (who had super olympics in LA) so far with 2 bronze medals only. Edited February 4, 2023 by rafalgorka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 4, 2023 Author #77 Share Posted February 4, 2023 There will be plenty of action on Day 6 Athletics - M 20km Walk Athletics - W Shot Put Cycling Track - M Sprint Cycling Track - M Team Pursuit Cycling Track - M Points Race Equestrian - Individual Eventing Equestrian - Team Eventing Fencing - W Individual Foil Gymnastics Artistic - W Individual All-Around Shooting - M 10m Air Rifle Shooting - W 50m Rifle Three Positions Swimming - M 100m Backstroke Swimming - M 200m Butterfly Swimming - W 800m Freestyle Swimming - W 200m Individual Medley Swimming - W 4x100m Medley Relay Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 57kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 68kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 82kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 100kg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,720 Posted February 4, 2023 #78 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, rafalgorka said: There will be plenty of action on Day 6 Athletics - M 20km Walk Athletics - W Shot Put Cycling Track - M Sprint Cycling Track - M Team Pursuit Cycling Track - M Points Race Equestrian - Individual Eventing Equestrian - Team Eventing Fencing - W Individual Foil Gymnastics Artistic - W Individual All-Around Shooting - M 10m Air Rifle Shooting - W 50m Rifle Three Positions Swimming - M 100m Backstroke Swimming - M 200m Butterfly Swimming - W 800m Freestyle Swimming - W 200m Individual Medley Swimming - W 4x100m Medley Relay Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 57kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 68kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 82kg Wrestling Greco-Roman - M 100kg In eventing I doubt if any of the boycotting countries would have finished in the top 15. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 18, 2023 Author #79 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Day 6, part one ATHLETICS - W Shot Put 1. Natalya Lisovskaya URS 21.96 FR1 2. Helena Fibingerova TCH 21.33 FR2 3. Nunu Abashidze URS 21.18 FR3 SHOOTING - M 10m Air Rifle 1. Andreas Wolfram GDR 591 FR1 2. Philippe Heberle FRA 589 LA1 3. Andreas Kronthaler AUT 587 (shoot-off 36) LA2 SHOOTING - W 50m Rifle Three Positions 1. Marlies Ray-Helbig GDR 583 FR1 2. Wu Xiaoxuan CHN 581 LA1 3. Lessia Leskiv URS 579 FR2 SWIMMING - M 100m Backstroke 1. Dirk Richter GDR 55.67 FR1 2. Rick Carey USA 55.79 LA1 3. Vladimir Shemetov URS 55.88 FR2 SWIMMING - M 200m Butterfly 1. Jon Sieben AUS 1.57.04 LA1 WR 2. Michael Gross FRG 1.57.40 LA2 3. Rafael Vidal VEN 1.57.51 LA3 An epic race that was SWIMMING - W 800m Freestyle 1. Astrid Strauss GDR 8.24.95 FR1 2. Tiffany Cohen USA 8.24.96 LA1 3. Michele Richardson USA 8.30.73 LA2 That would be a win by 0,01 sec in 800m free!!! Just wow. But if they swam together in the same race the result could be different obviously SWIMMING - W 200m Individual Medley 1. Ute Geweniger GDR 2.11.79 FR1 2. Tracy Caulkins USA 2.12.64 LA1 3. Yelena Dendeberova URS 2.14.56 FR2 SWIMMING - W 4x100m Medley Relay 1. GDR 4.03.69 FR1 WR 2. URS 4.08.13 FR2 3. USA 4.08.34 LA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,394 Posted February 18, 2023 Author #80 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Medal table after Day 6, part one (56 events) 16-11-15---42 13-8-10---31 10-12-5---27 7-5-1---13 2-3-3---8 2-3-1---6 2-2-1---5 2-1-1---4 1-2-4---7 1-0-0---1 0-3-3---6 0-2-4---6 0-1-1---2 0-1-0---1 0-1-0---1 0-1-0---1 0-0-2---2 0-0-2---2 0-0-1---1 0-0-1---1 0-0-1---1 0-0-1---1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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