Russia-Ukraine Crisis Consequences in Sports

[Vektor 3,326]

13 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

Possibly, when the initial décision was made, it was expected that the war would be over soon enough and that russian sport would be reinstalled once the peace was broken.

 

Now that it looks like that the war could drag for years, IOC might look for a new long term solution regarding the - athletes

The war was only going end in a couple of months in one way: a quick Russian victory. After that we would have likely seen an even bigger catastrophe than a war itself, Russians would have had to rule Ukraine by some very strict measures. And that's not a scenario in which the ban should be lifted.

 

IOC is incredibly naïve if this was their line of thinking. I think they just hoped that the Western world would get tired of the conflict, which is definitely not the case. Europe is pretty much at war with Russia at this point, we just don't see a direct military conflict because of the nukes, so instead it's an "energy war". And the only way EU will survive the coming months is by fueling the narrative that Russians should be punished for their crimes, even if it will also hurt us. It would be very strange to go against that narrative by allowing Russians to compete in sport events. 

[phelps 8,724]

58 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

Possibly, when the initial décision was made, it was expected that the war would be over soon enough and that russian sport would be reinstalled once the peace was broken.

 

Now that it looks like that the war could drag for years, IOC might look for a new long term solution regarding the - athletes

let's keep politics and the war aside for a while...

 

the long term solution is as simple as a 12-year ban for all the Russians because of the shameful doping issues they had in the 2008-2014 span and they were never really punished for...

 

Belarus also had some heavy doping issues in that period (remember the full canoeing and weightlifting teams not allowed to enter the Rio Olympics?), so an 8-year ban for them will work, too...

 

and we're perfectly done until at least 2030 for BLR and 2034 for RUS...

 

then, and only then, we could start to reconsider their position...

Edited September 16, 2022 by phelps

[Rafa Maciel 1,709]

Having been one of the few international federations to allow Russian and Belarussian athletes to compete, the IJF have now elected to ban Russia and Belarus until January 2023. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Rafa Maciel

[hckošice 16,623]

No Russians in Luge next season. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1128432/fil-russia-ban

[Olympian1010 8,301]

I didn’t see anyone post it elsewhere, but Anastasia Davydova  Secretary General of the ROC fled Russia. Here’s ATR’s article about it: https://www.infobae.com/aroundtherings/articles/2022/09/27/roc-secretary-general-anastasia-davydova-has-fled-russia/

[hckošice 16,623]

and will be reinstated to the Ice Hockey Top Division, once the geopolitical situation will allow it.

 

IIHF at the semi-annual congress in Turkey decided it

 

 

Copy/paste from IIHF.com

 

Principles of reintegration of teams

Following the IIHF Council decision from 28 February 2022, Russia and Belarus are not allowed to participate in IIHF competitions until further notice. The upcoming 2022/2023 IIHF Championship season will proceed without the participation of these countries.

During the 2021/22 season, other teams have moved up in the various divisions and groups and the question arose what a reintegration would look like. In that case teams would move down between the different tiers to keep the number of participants the same.

The following basic principles as proposed by the IIHF Competition & Coordination Committee was approved by the 2022 IIHF Semi-Annual Congress:

• As approved at the 2022 IIHF Annual Congress, Russia and Belarus would return to the categories and divisions in which they were originally placed prior to the Council decision. The men’s senior category with RUS/BLR in the top division would be seeded according to the IIHF Men’s World Ranking, women’s senior and U18 with RUS in the top division, men’s U20 and U18 with RUS/BLR in the top division according to the IIHF Sport Regulations.
• The number of teams in each tournament would remain the same. To accommodate the number, there would be no promotion but teams would be relegated to reach the number of participants (WM=16 teams, WW/WM20/WM18=10 teams, WW18=8 teams).
• The same procedure would apply to lower divisions with six-team tournaments, with groups to be filled top-down. That means if one team is placed into a lower division, the corresponding lowest-ranked team would be relegated throughout all divisions. If two teams returned in the men’s tournaments, two teams would be relegated throughout all divisions.
• The deadline for a decision concerning Russia and Belarus is after the last preliminary-round game of the respective IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship in the men’s senior category to prepare the championship program for the IIHF Annual Congress.
• With no return of Russia and Belarus, normal promotion/relegation rules apply.

 
“To be clear, this decision does not indicate a return of the Russian and Belarusian teams to IIHF competition. Congress needed to take this decision so that the IIHF members understand the terms of a future reintegration of these countries into the IIHF program. The IIHF Council will continue to monitor the war in Ukraine,” said IIHF President Luc Tardif.

[Grassmarket 4,303]

54 minutes ago, hckošice said:

and will be reinstated to the Ice Hockey Top Division, once the geopolitical situation will allow it.

 

IIHF at the semi-annual congress in Turkey decided it

 

 

Copy/paste from IIHF.com

 

Principles of reintegration of teams

Following the IIHF Council decision from 28 February 2022, Russia and Belarus are not allowed to participate in IIHF competitions until further notice. The upcoming 2022/2023 IIHF Championship season will proceed without the participation of these countries.

During the 2021/22 season, other teams have moved up in the various divisions and groups and the question arose what a reintegration would look like. In that case teams would move down between the different tiers to keep the number of participants the same.

The following basic principles as proposed by the IIHF Competition & Coordination Committee was approved by the 2022 IIHF Semi-Annual Congress:

• As approved at the 2022 IIHF Annual Congress, Russia and Belarus would return to the categories and divisions in which they were originally placed prior to the Council decision. The men’s senior category with RUS/BLR in the top division would be seeded according to the IIHF Men’s World Ranking, women’s senior and U18 with RUS in the top division, men’s U20 and U18 with RUS/BLR in the top division according to the IIHF Sport Regulations.
• The number of teams in each tournament would remain the same. To accommodate the number, there would be no promotion but teams would be relegated to reach the number of participants (WM=16 teams, WW/WM20/WM18=10 teams, WW18=8 teams).
• The same procedure would apply to lower divisions with six-team tournaments, with groups to be filled top-down. That means if one team is placed into a lower division, the corresponding lowest-ranked team would be relegated throughout all divisions. If two teams returned in the men’s tournaments, two teams would be relegated throughout all divisions.
• The deadline for a decision concerning Russia and Belarus is after the last preliminary-round game of the respective IIHF Ice Hockey World Championship in the men’s senior category to prepare the championship program for the IIHF Annual Congress.
• With no return of Russia and Belarus, normal promotion/relegation rules apply.

 
“To be clear, this decision does not indicate a return of the Russian and Belarusian teams to IIHF competition. Congress needed to take this decision so that the IIHF members understand the terms of a future reintegration of these countries into the IIHF program. The IIHF Council will continue to monitor the war in Ukraine,” said IIHF President Luc Tardif.

Bah!  Let them start off playing Luxembourg & Fiji!

Edited September 30, 2022 by Grassmarket

[dodge 1,041]

The IBA has banned Ukraine’s federation and all their boxers

 

Boxing, one of my favourite Olympic sports, is done 

 

 

[Gianlu33 6,028]

5 minutes ago, dodge said:

The IBA has banned Ukraine’s federation and all their boxers

 

Boxing, one of my favourite Olympic sports, is done 

 

 

That's ridiculous. 

[heywoodu 16,465]

55 minutes ago, Grassmarket said:

Bah!  Let them start off playing Luxembourg & Fiji!

That would be worse for Luxembourg and Fiji than it would be for Russia