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Yeah, if you look at the number of athletes in the past along with the increased number of events we should be pushing around 12,000 athletes. That's around 1500 missing athletes. Even 1000 extra would fix a lot of things.

Sunday April 28th, 2024 - Preliminary Round Day 4 Schedule (GMT +3) Group A Eastern European Summer Time (GMT +3) Slovakia vs Finland Period-by-Period: April 28th 2024, h. 14:00, Metro Arena, Espoo United States vs Latvia Period-by-Period: April 28th 2024, h. 18:00, Metro Arena, Espoo Group B Eastern European Summer Time (GMT +3) Sweden vs Czechia Period-by-Period: April 28th 2024, h. 15:00, Vantaa Trio Arena, Vantaa Canada vs Switzerland Period-by-Period: April 28th 2024, h. 19:00, Vantaa Trio Arena, Vantaa

Saturday April 27th, 2024 - Preliminary Round Day 3 Results (GMT +3) Group A Eastern European Summer Time (GMT +3) a Norway 2 - 8 United States Period-by-Period: 0-4, 0-2, 2-2 April 27th 2024, h. 17:30, Metro Arena, Espoo Group A Provisional Standing After Day 3 Nation P W(OTW) L(OTL) GF GA +/- Pt. United States 2 2(0) 0(0) 17 2 +15 6 Finland 2 2(0) 0(0) 10 1 +9 6 Latvia 2 1(0) 1(0) 6 6 0 3 Slovakia 2 0(0) 2(0) 3 14 -11 0 Norway 2 0(0) 2(0) 2 15 -13 0 a a Group B Eastern European Summer Time (GMT +3) a Kazakhstan 1 - 7 Sweden Period-by-Period: 1-2, 0-2, 0-3 April 27th 2024, h. 15:00, Vantaa Trio Arena, Vantaa a Group B Provisional Standing After Day 3 a Nation P W(OTW) L(OTL) GF GA +/- Pt. Canada 2 2(0) 0(0) 12 3 +9 6 Sweden 2 1(0) 1(0) 10 7 +3 3 Czechia 2 1(0) 1(0) 3 6 -3 3 Switzerland 2 1(0) 1(0) 5 5 0 3 Kazakhstan 2 0(0) 2(0) 3 12 -9 0

Wow this is quite unexpected. I was not even hoping to get a quota here. Though in the last Asian qualifier, she was just a match short from qualifying for the Tokyo Olympics. She’s not actually our first ever fencer to compete in the Olympics, the last time PHI had a fencer qualify was 32yrs ago, ‘92 Barcelona

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Of course, you're also talking about qualification to a "one off" event. I personally like that fencers can qualify through by individual ranking or continental tournaments. I think there are some changes you could make to help more top ranked individual fencers qualify through the rankings, but I like that individual athletes get two chances at qualification.

Right, but the point of reserved continental places is to increase diversity and the amount of qualified nations. Sailing and Rowing have pretty solid qualification systems in my opinion. I'd maybe queak a rule here or there, but I think they do a decent job at balancing international representation and the qualification of elite crews.

I see why they do so this but in the sports they do, Rowing and Taekwondo, the events they do them in already have a variety of nations competing so there's really no need to prevent top countries from other events from competing as those events already have a variety of countries qualified.

Not really as in that top 34 there's bound to be a couple countries that have 4 or 5 athletes meaning 1/6th of the athletes in that top 34 would be ineligible based on the 3 quota max rule. Either way in a sport like fencing there needs to be more priority towards ranking rather than one off events. I may be in a better mood about this tomorrow though if Maxwell or Brooke get a shock qualification.

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The general tendency is that the IOC reduces the number of quotas + introduces some additional preferences for weaker continents and countries. The result is that there are disciplines in which it is more difficult for a European country to qualify for the Olympics than to win a medal. To me this is absurd. I understand the promotion of sports around the world, but then let's just increase the number of quotas in most sports and, for example, throw out weird things like break dancing, surfing, etc.

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The IOC isn't going to give more quotas to fencing so instead of having a ~34 person tournament you will have ~26 person tournament.

Agree in theory but not in practice in this case: when your best was like 30th in the individual olympic ranking across all weapons, and the field is around 34 fencers, with any qualification system with continental limitations qualifying someone would be a coin toss

Meltdown for the ages for Bence Demeter - came into the last shoot with a 5 sec lead….finished fifth. Olympic selection going to be a nightmare - Elgendy won today, Shaban third, Hamed fourth. Balasz Szep got the Silver.

Look at rowing... During the European Championships, special qualifying regattas are organized for European countries that have won less than 2 qualifications in total at the World Championships. Moreover, in the same place. As if it wasn't possible to simply make an open European Championship and distribute the quotas to the best crews who havn`t yet qualified. In my opinion, the IOC and their stupid rules are to blame because these absurdities apply to virtually every sports federation.

The only real hope we have tomorrow is Maxwell in the Sabre who has shown some good form recently, I don't expect anything from Brooke in a big Eppe field.

I don't disagree with you there, but the qualification system is still mostly to blame as it limits the amount of individual athletes can qualify and effectively says "if other members of your team aren't good enough then your not good enough".

Yeah I found the whole fiasco with the final qualifier strange as there were countries listed as qualified who were well behind a plethora of unqualified countries in the official results.

You have one, competing for Cyprus. It's more the reward for how stupid and ignorant the British sport system is in regards to funding in sports where results are highly variable, i clearly remember they cut fencing funding to zero because Kruse lost the bronze medal bout in 2016 (while they had 1 medal target), until he won a WCh medal in 2018 or something. Zero funding despite having one of the best in the world in his weapon for a few years, no wonder you lost some potential.

Nothing can beat the stupid qualification rules in sailing anyway... Yesterday, the Italian crew in 49 became the victims. And all this because of constant fiddling with continental quotas and inventing some strange preferences based on unclear rules.

What do you mean it won't increase the spots. Instead of the teams taking 24 spots they'd only take 16 meaning there'd be 8 spots open for the highest 8 on the world rankings. Table tennis is a prime example of this and the Fie should learn from them when it comes to converting team quotas to individual.

Dina's 22.2 is absolutely motoring, looks like she may be coming back to something like her peak form. Daryll's 22.6 in such a major race is almost as exciting, and hugely reassuring. Hopefully Anning hangs on to some of her fabulous form; none of the GB 400 women are necessarily medal threats (unlike, say Adeleke, who is a genuine outside bolter), but the depth for relay purposes looks absolutely fantastic - not least in any mixed relay which may have a better GBR shout than the men's - Hudson Smith/Dobson or Haydock Wilson/Lavaia or Ama Pipi/Amber looks a really exciting group on paper.

I've got no doubt she will, but the fact that we're not gonna have a single fencer in Paris, barring a miracle, due to how stupid the qualification system is is a sorry state of affairs.

Definitely a quota issue for sure. The limits they put are weird.