[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[MHSN 3,221]

8 minutes ago, LDOG said:

I mean, what are the regular afghan people doing about it? do they support taliban or what?

of course they don't, if Taliban had any kind of public support they would enter the election. (but they don't believe in elections. they just want the power) but people also don't fully support the current government. the government is weak and corrupt and didn't improve anything there in past 10 years. that also applies to Afghan troops. lots of them simply run away when they hear that Taliban is coming. they probably think it doesn't worth risking our lives for this government.

 

since we share the same language (well, almost the same) I can read Afghan media (and social media) and it's clear that people are just tired of this endless war. there are lots of people who don't support Taliban but they may prefer Taliban taking the power because at least that means stability. that means you shouldn't be worried about a suicide attack whenever you leave your house. Taliban increased its attacks in past couple of years exactly for that reason, they want to create fear, they killed lots of activists, lots of journalists, lots of famous TV hosts, specially women.

 

but educated people in general are very worried about Taliban. because they know what's next. (specially for women, everybody knows how Taliban thinks of women) I saw lots of people were happy in social media when Biden won the election. they "thought" he will have a different policy and won't give up to Taliban (but unfortunately they were wrong)

[konig 1,298]

What a good thing of Florida

 

https://www.wjhg.com/2021/03/05/legislation-would-educate-florida-students-about-the-pitfalls-of-communism/

[Vektor 3,195]

Meanwhile two Hungarians clubs (Ferencváros, MTK) announced that their stadiums in Budapest will be lit up in national colors to support the Hungarian team, but obviously it's a response to what the German cities are doing. As I said earlier, this entire thing just reinforced the supporters of Orbán that they are fighting "the good fight" against foreign countries and a foreign ideology. And yeah, I doubt that this is a good thing for the opposition one year before the election, Orbán got his fight for conservative values again, just like the migrant crisis for the previous election which helped him tremendously. It's also shifts focus from "Orbán vs. opposition" to "Orbán vs. Western Europe", which is something that has reinforced in Hungary many times that he's untouchable as he's a famous politician among EU leaders while most of the opposition leaders are not even all that well-known in Hungary. 

[Vic Liu 1,592]

1 hour ago, Vektor said:

Meanwhile two Hungarians clubs (Ferencváros, MTK) announced that their stadiums in Budapest will be lit up in national colors to support the Hungarian team, but obviously it's a response to what the German cities are doing. As I said earlier, this entire thing just reinforced the supporters of Orbán that they are fighting "the good fight" against foreign countries and a foreign ideology. And yeah, I doubt that this is a good thing for the opposition one year before the election, Orbán got his fight for conservative values again, just like the migrant crisis for the previous election which helped him tremendously. It's also shifts focus from "Orbán vs. opposition" to "Orbán vs. Western Europe", which is something that has reinforced in Hungary many times that he's untouchable as he's a famous politician among EU leaders while most of the opposition leaders are not even all that well-known in Hungary. 

Orban is a very smart politician. The whole Europe just play as the script he wrote both internationally and domestically. He just know Western Europe will seize the opportunity to show moral superiority and judge and it will help him win more support when Hungarians against foreign interference.

[Vektor 3,195]

17 minutes ago, Vic Liu said:

Orban is a very smart politician. The whole Europe just play as the script he wrote both internationally and domestically. He just know Western Europe will seize the opportunity to show moral superiority and judge and it will help him win more support when Hungarians against foreign interference.

Yeah, he has three decades of experience and he knows it very well how to play to his base. He isn't invincible, his biggest weakness is that he isn't that great at debates, he famously lost the last Hungarian election debate in 2006 which was one of the reasons why he lost that election. He really only won one election where we had a close race (1998), while he lost two (2002, 2006), so 2022 can be interesting as long as the united opposition finds a good, charismatic leader who understands Hungarians and knows how to win an election. 

[Federer91 2,140]

And then the West is always baffled, how can far-right politicians be growing and taking more power, when in fact they are the ones putting them there 

[Vektor 3,195]

Orbán's facebook account has been spammed with Pride flags in the comments of his posts, it's mostly done by foreigners: https://www.facebook.com/pg/orbanviktor/posts/

 

I mean... this will only make him happy that he finally "made it" into the club with Putin and Erdogan. It also looks quite bad that people are spamming posts that are about the funeral of Marcell Jankovics, who's one of our greatest animated film directors ever (you should watch Son of the White Mare if you like less conventional animated films, it's a very highly regarded piece of art everywhere around the world)

[Jack Gonçalves 23]

Portugal's federation just also changed their Facebook/Instagram and Twitter pictures to the rainbow flag!  :RAINBOW: 

 

https://www.facebook.com/PORTUGAL/

[Vektor 3,195]

It looks like there were no clashes between Hungarian and German fans in Munich, so at the very least that was avoided. Still, I find this entire situation baffling and a terrible look for Germany and Western Europe. You are using an international sport competition to make a big political statement. Imagine if Orbán would have done the same thing and made some big nationalistic event out of the EUROs with all the bells and whistles of his anti-Brussels campaign that he did in previous years. Or if China would have pro-socialist / anti-West propaganda everywhere during Beijing 2022. You are disrespecting the will and freedom of millions of Hungarians, while you are also helping Orbán to win his next election. If you are thinking that this will help your cause, you couldn't be more wrong. Just today new polls from a reliable pollster shows that the support for Orbán and his party is on the rise in Hungary, and they took the sample before the effects of the last few days kicked in. 

[Olympian1010 7,479]

5 minutes ago, Vektor said:

It looks like there were no clashes between Hungarian and German fans in Munich, so at the very least that was avoided. Still, I find this entire situation baffling and a terrible look for Germany and Western Europe. You are using an international sport competition to make a big political statement. Imagine if Orbán would have done the same thing and made some big nationalistic event out of the EUROs with all the bells and whistles of his anti-Brussels campaign that he did in previous years. Or if China would have pro-socialist / anti-West propaganda everywhere during Beijing 2022. You are disrespecting the will and freedom of millions of Hungarians, while you are also helping Orbán to win his next election. If you are thinking that this will help your cause, you couldn't be more wrong. Just today new polls from a reliable pollster shows that the support for Orbán and his party is on the rise in Hungary. 

Kinda like the Hungarian fans who held up anti-LGBT+ signs during their first match of the tournament…