Heywoodu: "Ballads Are Supposed to Have Meaning"
Heywoodu in Amsterdam. Future Netflix series?
The Netherlands hold a distinct, often overlooked TISC record. Together with Vietnam, who only participated once, they are the only other nation which never placed outside of the Top 20. A highly impressive record, no doubt, but today we invited their leading juror Heywoodu on a little interview regarding a somewhat different subject...
Q: How do you go about evaluating TISC entries? Do you use a specific system when picking out your Top 12?
A: I take the playlist and give every song one listen in the playlist's order while trying to not see which country it's from yet (that'll be impossible now, but that's fine). While doing so, every song gets a note from 1 to 10, and if I'm lucky, around 15 songs stand out above the rest. I do give the others a short listen as well if time permits, to make sure I didn't miss something there, but usually, if a song doesn't make my list on the first listen, I don't really change my mind about it later.
Q: And what about the maximum 12 points? Can you recognize it immediately? Or do you take a certain amount of time before deciding on it?
A: When I've got my shortlist of songs to be awarded points, they all get another listen and often a new note - generally on a new scale, 1 to 100, so that it's easier to differentiate between songs that for example would otherwise all get an 8. If there's still ties left, it's a matter of listening to the songs involved again and simply picking the one I like most.
Q: Do you have a favourite music genre? Is there any genre you would like to hear more of on the TISC stage?
A: Not really. In general, I like a sort of 'rock-like' songs, but my voting history shows I definitely appreciate much more ballad-like songs as well. Song About Love, Dear Home, Sacre Coeur, Gosto de Ti, Epitáfio, absolute masterpieces.
Q: How important are lyrics to you?
A: Fairly important. It sort of depends on the kind of song: in the ballad-like songs I mentioned, the combination of the wonderful voices and lyrics make them stand out for me. In more rock-like songs, the general feel and melody mean more for me, which is why songs in languages I don't understand usually only have a chance to score well in my book if they're not ballads - after all, ballads are supposed to have some sort of meaning, for me at least. I do find it pretty important to at least be able to hear what they are singing. Even if I don't know French, I can at least recognize words, which is why for example Arab, Chinese or Indian (non-English) songs are so difficult for me to score high: nothing against these languages, but the sounds and such are so entirely different it is nearly impossible for me to recognize words or anything. I think it'd be similar for someone who's only grown up with, for example, Arab and suddenly hears Italian: it'd probably sound like a bunch of random sounds, simply because it is so totally different.
Q: And finally... How can we get 12 points from Heywoodu?
A: Enter a song I like more than any other entry.
If Heywoodu's musical preferences still feel like a jigsaw puzzle - maybe this will help. Our resident Dutch juror has outlined the following entries as favorites during the most recent TISC editions...
Stay tuned for more user interviews to come, as we count down to TOISC 2020...