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My prediction in WS : Sindhu , Chen, inthanon ...... Basically I feel ratchanok will beat TTY
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I still fancy Sindhu to be at least a medallist in women's ....she normally brings her best to the big events
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*Indian at the Tokyo Olympics ……..4 days to Olympics ……….post 7 of 10 by nitin sanker* We have looked at 5 out of the 8 medal possible sports of India and Today we look at *Badminton* Badminton was a game which originated in India in the mid 1800s , originally called “poona” it was later renamed after the duke of beauforts country estate where it began to be played. Despite its early Indian origin , we had no great names till prakash padukone flashed like a comet in the early 1980s winning the all England and won a bronze at the world championship , subsequently we have had good players like Pullela Gopichand ( the current head coach of badminton ) who won the all England in 2001 but nothing really earth shattering till the advent of the dynamic duo PV Sindhu and Saina Nehwal in 2010s . Thanks mostly to them we have won a medal at every badminton world championships from 2011. Badminton is a bit of a late entrant to the Olympics having its first appearance in 1992 , it become very popular especially with the fabled rivalry between Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei . India has done well in recent times with a bronze by Saina in 2012 and the very famous silver by Sindhu in 2016. So looking forward to Tokyo Sadly we have a bit of a diminished side with single participation in 3 events – womens and mens singles and mens doubles . Sai Praneeth faces a very difficult draw where if he progresses to the quarters he meets world No 1 the Kento Momota in the quarters where I see no hope of him progressing , the dynamic pair of Chirag and Satwik are in group of death situation in the mens doubles facing the “minions” world number 1 pair from Indonesia and the current world no 3 from Taipei , I do not see them crossing the group phase. From a medal perspective we have only one likely medallist *Womens Singles* : she is that rare Indian Sportsperson who brings her best game to her biggest events with 5 world championship medals and an Olympic silver, she is a legitimate claimant to the title of G.O.A.T in womens badminton. She is the reigning world champion. Of course PV Sindhu . Her form has not looked the best in 2021 but without doubt she will play her heart out in Tokyo as she did in Rio. She is currently seeded 7th but the way women’s badminton looking any of the top 8 will be able to win gold. She has a good to head to head record against most of them except current world number One - Tai Tzu Ying and Carolina Marin. Marin will not be in Tokyo because of an Injury. As per the draw Sindhu’s first real battle will be in the quarter finals against Akane Yamaguchi in the quarters , Sindhu is ahead 11-7 record in the head to head and did beat her recently, it will not be easy but I see Sindhu reaching semis. There she most probably comes against her nemesis Tzu , who has a 13-5 record against Sindhu and has beaten her several times in the recent times. Still I will give Sindhu a fifty- fifty chance to get to the finals just because of Sindhus ability to bring her big game to crunch matches . If she reaches the finals she might meet Chen Yufei. For me Sindhu is a “likely” medalist *Medal Prediction* - 0 to 1 in badminton
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*Indian at the Tokyo Olympics ……..6 days to Olympics ……….post 5 of 10 by nitin sanker* Reaching halfway point here , these post are taking time ( a couple of hrs of research ) do let me know if you have them useful and share them in other groups We have looked at 3 out of the 8 medal possible sports of India and Today we look at *Athletics* This is the blue riband sport in the Olympics which gets the maximum viewership, A sport with a huge number of 48 events ( this divided into track , field and road events ) , it has made famous names like Jesse owens , Usain bolt , Carl Lewis, Abebe Bikila and so many great names India has participated in athletics in 1900 with 2 silvers on the name of Norman Prichard , since then we have not won a single medal though came agonizingly close with *Milkha Singh , PT Usha* who both finished 4th and the *Gurbachan Singh Randhawa and Anju George* who finished 5th . Let us look at our chances in athletics this time . we have a squad of 26 participating in 14 events ( out of 48 ) . Lets look at the medal prospects . we have only two *Javelin* - Neeraj Chopra is the best athlete we have had since Anju George , In 2016 he won the world under 20 world championship gold medal , he has been a commonwealth and Asian Gold medal and comes into the Olympics as 4th best on 2021 leading scores . his is an event where gold will almost undoubtedly go to Vetter of Germany who is well above the rest and there are many who have a personal best higher than Neeraj , but javelin is a sport where athletes rarely reach their personal best at the Olympics , Neeraj both has the big game temperament and has been consistent this year , if he throws close to 90 he will probably get a medal ( personal best of 88.07 which he has done in 2021) . So a *Likely* *womens discus* - Kamalpreet Kaur , this lady has been in great form breaking the NR fairly often , she comes in ranked 6th in 2021 , but we have to see whether she can replicate that in a big event , as she has shot up the ranks fairly fast . Well not likely but a *possible* While we have only two prospects let us look at other who can reach the finals and that itself is a good achievement , every games we have had the rare privilege to see an Indian name in the atheletics in a final. This happens usually in just 1-2 events . This time besides the above two . tejinder toor in mens shotput , racewalkers in 20KM in both men and women ( there is no finals here so I would look for a 10th place or above finish ) , Annu Rani in womens javelin , the mens 4*400 and the mixed 4*400 may give us a position in the finals . *If we get more than 3 finalists* ( we had a max of 3 at the london olympics )that by itself would be a sign of improvement ( I feel that is almost sure , I am hoping for around 5 finalists). *Medal prediction 0-1 at tokyo*
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Shooting Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games
nitinsanker replied to hckošice's topic in Shooting
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Shooting Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games
nitinsanker replied to hckošice's topic in Shooting
Shooting ....let me see if I understood .mixed medal if India has 2 individually qualified shooters in men's and women's 10 m pistol .....we get to send 2 teams ...... But if had a 25 MTR shooter shooting in 10 out of these we would be able to send only team.... -
For India While we came close to the medal podium several times with quarterfinal finishes , it was in 2008 that vijender got us a medal , followed by Mary Kom winning bronze in 2012. The banning of the Indian boxing federation from 2012 – 2016 dampened spirits but the Boxing federation was reconsitituted approved and has done a good job and we have a sharp uptick in our boxing performance. So what our chances . we have 9 boxers participating in 2021, the biggest team ever , of these 6 are genuine medal prospects . I will focus on these *Flyweight Men* - Amit Phangal is currently ranked world number 1 and a reigning world championship silver medallist and is the reigning Asian games champion. He has lovely footwork and compensates by quick in and out boxing . Definitely a “likely” medal *Lightweight men* Manish kaushik is an elegant boxer always a pleasure to watch , he is a current world championship, he is currently ranked 18th which is more based on weird ranking system but a definite *likely* to medal for me *Welterweight* Vikas Krishan Yadav will be taking part in his 3rd Olympics, Immensely talented a youth gold medallist in 2010 , followed by a world championship bronze Vikas has been a bit of a bad boy of Indian boxing often missing camps and sometimes reaching big events not in great physical shape , he currently looks very focused and after a brief stint in pro boxing seems to want to redeem his early promise , always a *likely* for me *Flyweight women* : Mary Kom , the diminutive Manipur is a legend in Boxing and India , she is the rare Indian G.O.A.T ( greatest of all time ) in an Olympic sport by winning 6 world championship gold medals , the highest by any women boxer. Her favored pinweight has never been part of the Olympic program and she is forced to box in the Flyweight. She is looking to cap her great legacy with another Olympic medal . The best boxing brains in the business , she will be surely a *likely* *Lightweight women* Simaranjit Kaur is seeded 4th and a 2018 bronze at the world championship underlines her class. She is yet another “likely” *welterweight women* - Lovlina is another lady from the northeast , she is twice world bronze medallist and surely surely a *likely* medallist *Medal prediction for India : Three , with a range of 2-4 will be my best bet , but with only Simranjit and Amit seeded in the top 4 , the luck of the draw will play an important part in boxing
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Indian at the Tokyo Olympics ……..7 days to Olympics ……….post 4 of 10 by nitin sanker Today we look at *Boxing* One of the great spectacle sports of the Olympics which has given us giants like mohammed ali , Joe Frazier , George foreman , the greatest amateur boxer teofilo Stevenson and others . This sport is often marred by corruption and an opaque scoring system but remains one of the great Olympic sports. India has had a good boxing history with Indian boxers taking part at the Olympics since 1948 when we sent a 7 member squad. we have had some really good boxers , starting with *Ron Norris* who reached the quarterfinals of the Olympics in 1952 , the legendary Heavyweight *Hawa singh* the only Indian till now who has won two consecutive asian golds who also the co-founder of the bhiwani boxing club , the northeast champion *dingko singh* , the matinee idol good looking *vijender singh* and the magnificent *mary kom*. While we came close to the medal podium several times with quarterfinal finishes , it was in 2008 that vijender got us a medal , followed by Mary Kom winning bronze in 2012. The banning of the Indian boxing federation from 2012 – 2016 dampened spirits but the Boxing federation was reconsitituted approved and has done a good job and we have a sharp uptick in our boxing performance. So what our chances . we have 9 boxers participating in 2021, the biggest team ever , of these 6 are genuine medal prospects . I will focus on these *Flyweight Men* - Amit Phangal is currently ranked world number 1 and a reigning world championship silver medallist and is the reigning Asian games champion. He has lovely footwork and compensates by quick in and out boxing . Definitely a “likely” medal *Lightweight men* Manish kaushik is an elegant boxer always a pleasure to watch , he is a current world championship, he is currently ranked 18th which is more based on weird ranking system but a definite *likely* to medal for me *Welterweight* Vikas Krishan Yadav will be taking part in his 3rd Olympics, Immensely talented a youth gold medallist in 2010 , followed by a world championship bronze Vikas has been a bit of a bad boy of Indian boxing often missing camps and sometimes reaching big events not in great physical shape , he currently looks very focused and after a brief stint in pro boxing seems to want to redeem his early promise , always a *likely* for me *Flyweight women* : Mary Kom , the diminutive Manipur is a legend in Boxing and India , a Padma Vidhushan awardee she is the rare Indian G.O.A.T ( greatest of all time ) in an Olympic sport by winning 6 world championship gold medals , the highest by any women boxer. Her favored pinweight has never been part of the Olympic program and she is forced to box in the Flyweight. She is looking to cap her great legacy with another Olympic medal . The best boxing brains in the business , she will be surely a *likely* *Lightweight women* Simaranjit Kaur is seeded 4th and a 2018 bronze at the world championship underlines her class. She is yet another “likely” *welterweight women* - Lovlina is another lady from the northeast , she is twice world bronze medallist and surely surely a *likely* medallist *Medal prediction * Three , with a range of 2-4 will be my best bet , but with only Simranjit and Amit seeded in the top 4 , the luck of the draw will play an important part in boxing
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Indian at the Tokyo Olympics ……..8 days to Olympics ……….post 3 of 10 by nitin sanker Today we look at archery Archery started in 1900 at the Olympics , but started being contested only from 1972 consistently. An amazing story from archery is that of the almost blind archer Im Dong Hyun who won 2 golds and a silver. Growing up on a diet of ramanand sagar and watching people shoot arrows which hit other arrows in midair , we should be world leaders in archery . We started our Olympic journey in archery in 1988 , but it is only since the early 2000s that we have evolved into a world class team. We have won world championship medals in the mens team event in 2005 and 2019 , the womens team in 2011 and 2015. We have had a presence in archery since 1988 , but despite medaling fairly often at the world championship , an Olympic medal has always avoided us , we have reached the QF with the women teams in 2004 , 2008 and in 2016 . 2016 was a heartbreaker where India was leading and then just lost it in the last few minutes to Russia. So what will happen in Tokyo. We have a presence in 4 out of 5 events ( the mixed pairs is introduced for the first time ). Shockingly our 3 ranked womens team lost in the qualifiers twice to get eliminated Mens Individual : Atanu das , Praveen Jadhav and Tarundeep rai will all try for a medal here , but despite having three players ( atanu das ranked 9th ) , an individual medal here does not look possible . Womens Individual : here we have the prodigiously talented Deepika Kumari in her third olympics as our sole participant , for me Deepika has been a paradox, immensely talented she won the youth world championship at just 15 , held the world record for some time and has been ranked world number 1. But despite her talent she has underperformed in big stages and she has never won a world championship individual medal or come close to an Olympic medal losing tamely to lower ranked players. Currently she looks determined to throw away that tag and she enters tokyo on a real hot streak , winning two individual world cups in 2021 and enters Tokyo ranked world number 1. But with three Korean women , Perova of Russia and Lei Chien of Taipei all likely medalists and her continual poor performance in the big stage , I am forced to put her as possible but not likely medallist Mens team : The mens team enters as the reigning world championship silver medalists but have not been consistent and are currently ranked 8th . But with their show at the world championships they have the potential to medal so we have to put them also as possible but not likely. Mixed pair : the mixed pair is not a fixed team but consists of the highest ranked woman in the initial ranking rounds and the highest ranked male , the likely pairing is Atanu das and his wife Deepika ( they got married in 2020 ) , this is a good pair , ranked currently 7th but with strong pairs from Netherlands , south korea, Russia , Chinese Taipei , a medal is possible but not likely Medal prediction 0 to 1 for me in archery . It would be wonderful for Indian Archery to win a medal here but let us see if they are able to get the mental toughness to get there.
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Post 2 of 10 , with just 9 days to go before Olympics We look at the chances of the Indian team at the 8 likely to medal sports Olympics and start with weightlifting Weightlifting has been a sport in the Olympics almost continuously since 1896 . women weightlifting was introduced only 2000 at Sydney. It has had great champions like Naim suleymonglu – the pocket Hercules and dimas the only man to have won 4 medals in weightlifting. InTokyo we have 14 weight classes 7 in women and 7 in men India has had a long history in this sport with participation starting in 1936 berlin. The largest Indian team has had 5 members in 1996 olympics but normally we have i 2-3 people . India was never really good at weightlifting till the late 90s where Indias women weightlifting squad was really good with 3 really great women weight lifters, Kunjarani devi , Karnam Malleshwari and Neelam setti laxmi winning multiple world championship medals . When women weightlifting started in 2000 we duly had our first Olympic medallist in karnam malleshwari , but just when things were looking up there were multiple doping violations among the women weightlifters (except karnam malleshwari). Hinduja group which was heavily sponsoring the team walked out and Indian weightlifting took a turn for the worse . This year we have only 1 weightlifter but in quality this is the best team since the 2000 olympics because after a long time we have a truly world class weightlifter padma shri awardee Mirabai Chanu in the 48 Kg Class . Weightlifting is a sport where the medals mostly go as per the rankings and Mirabhai is ranked second , she also is the only woman to have won a world championship since malleshwari. She also the world record holder in Clean & jerk. 1- likely and with her event on day 1 we are likely to start the Olympics this time with a bang · - likely means around 50% probability or above . MY prediction – 1 medal
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Any news on draws mhsn ..... When will they be out
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Any idea when boxing draws will be done .......
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India at the 2021 olympics With just 10 days to go ……. I am planning to do a daily post on Olympics. What’s Indias Squad looking like 120 Sportspeople are going to The Olympics. Highlights of this squad · This is the biggest Indian squad going to the Olympics – Rio was the largest with 117 · This is the squad where we are participating in the largest number of sports – 18 ( the earlier record was 15 again in Rio ). Tokyo olympics has 33 sports . so we have 18/33 · The first time participation sport is fencing . Bhavani Devi is our sole representative · The very first woman sailor representing India at the Olympics . we have Nethra participating in laser radial India has been a underperformer amongst the nations till now , in the 1980s we got one medal in 3 olympics , in the 90s we got again 1 medal in two Olympics , in the 2000s this improved to close to 2 medals per Olympics , the 2010s we saw an uptick with an average of 4 medals per Olympics. So the question is how will we do in Tokyo . I personally believe this is the best team we ever have had by far. We have medal chances in 8 of the 18 sports we will compete in namely – archery, athletics , badminton , boxing , hockey, shooting , weightlifting , wrestling. I will post once a day for the next 8 days looking at each sport and then a day before Olympics start try to look at the likely medal tally.
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Summer Olympic Games 2020 Social Media
nitinsanker replied to Olympian1010's topic in Summer Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
Enough fools in the world ..... If the want to crap about the one good thing in the world ........ This may not be the place ... -
I found the tennis rule of preference of single players for doubles selection really weird and totally unfair
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Indian fans are deeply suspicious of the archery team as they have regularly under performed at the Olympics We will be having a presence in 4 out of 5 events ..... The fabulously talented Deepika Kumari in women's individual she is on a very hot streak winning two world cups this year Deepika and her husband atanu in the mixed pair .....they are ranked 4th in the world .... Men's team who enter as reigning silver medallist s at the world championships Atanu Das , Pravin Jadhav and Tarundeep Rai in men's individual Every indian sports fan is praying that this time we break the jinx and win our first Olympic medal in archery
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My prediction based on current world ranking status Most likely to medal at least 9 medals from this group ( based on world rankings ) at least 50% probability so 9 medals from this sport event name world ranking 1 shooting 10m pistol pair india1 1 2 shooting 50m3positions aishwarya singh tomar 1 3 shooting 10m pistol yeshashwani 1 4 shooting 25m pistol rahi sarnobhat 1 5 Boxing 52 kg Amit 1 6 wrestling 53kg kg Free Vinesh 1 7 archery recurve women deepika kumari 1 8 shooting 10m pistol saurabh chaudhary 2 9 shooting 10m pistol manu 2 10 shooting 25m pistol manu bhaker 2 11 wrestling 65 kg Free Bajrang 2 12 shooting 10m rifle pair india1 3 13 shooting 10m pistol abhishek verma 3 14 Boxing 51 kg Mary Kom 3 15 Boxing 69 kg Lovlina 3 16 wrestling 57 kg free Ravi 3 17 wrestling 57 kg free anshu 3 18 weightlifting womens 49 kg mirabai chanu 4 and then from this group at least 25% probability . so possibly 4 medals sport event name ranking 1 archery recurve mixed India 4 2 Hockey Mens team Mens team 4 3 shooting 10m pistol pair india2 5 4 shooting 10m rifle divyansh panwar 6 5 archery recurve women India 6 6 Badminton women singles PV Sindhu 7 7 wrestling 86kg Free Deepak Punia 8 8 shooting 10m rifle pair india1 9 9 shooting 50m3positions sanjeev Rajput 9 10 shooting 10m rifle anjum mudgil 9 11 archery recurve men atanu das 9 12 Hockey womens team womens team 9 13 Badminton Mens Doubles Chirag and satwik 10 14 shooting 10m rifle deepak kumar 10 15 archery recurve men India 10 TOTAL - Likely medal tally 12-15medals ...........................................MInimum 7 ( with Rio kind of luck ) ........ Maximum 20 ( with london kind of luck )
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Tennis Qualification to Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympic Games
nitinsanker replied to Wanderer's topic in Tennis
Kyrgios ....you should be renamed crygios... Or cry-goes -
2 per group into quarters
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Summer Olympic Games 2020 Team Sizes
nitinsanker replied to Benolympique's topic in Summer Olympic Games Tokyo 2020
India is sending its biggest squad ever 120 Vs Rio 117 , also participating in the maximum number of sports ever 18 .......... The following is the list of competitors in the Games. Note that reserves in field hockey are not counted: Sport Men Women Total Archery 3 1 4 Athletics 17 9 26 Badminton 3 1 4 Boxing 5 4 9 Equestrian 1 0 1 Fencing 0 1 1 Field hockey 16 16 32 Golf 2 1 3 Gymnastics 0 1 1 Judo 0 1 1 Rowing 2 0 2 Sailing 3 1 4 Shooting 8 7 15 Swimming 2 1 3 Table tennis 2 2 4 Tennis 0 2 2 Weightlifting 0 1 1 Wrestling 3 4 7 Total 67 53 120 -
well as the money is paid by Uk for the commonwealth and you control the board primarily from UK ( 7 out of 14 executive positions ........ and you wrote the rules......... It cannot be expected that britain would do anything but self aggrandise itself and try to show its supremacy in the sporting arena but do try to say you are fair ....... Designation Name Country Vice-Patron Prince Edward United Kingdom President Dame Louise Martin Scotland Vice-Presidents Mr. Bruce Robertson Canada Mr. Chris Jenkins Wales Ms. Kereyn Smith New Zealand Regional Vice-Presidents Africa Mrs. Miriam Moyo Zambia Americas Ms. Judy Simons Bermuda Asia Mr. Chris Chan Singapore Caribbean Mrs. Fortuna Belrose Saint Lucia Europe Mr. Harry Murphy Gibraltar Oceania Mr. Hugh Graham Cook Islands Birmingham 2022 Representative Mr. Ian Metcalfe England CEO Legal Advisor Ms. Sandra Osborne Barbados Athlete Representative Ms. Rhona Toft Scotland
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Are you trying to suggest Britain is as good as India in shooting ....... Any person in this forum would laugh at you sadly GB is a very good olympic nation and on maybe 30 out of the 33 olympic sports you would be right first let us look at the world cup tally Overall Medal Tally (ISSF World Cup 2019) Rank Nation Gold Silver Bronze Total 1 India (IND) 16 4 2 22 2 China (CHN) 8 13 15 36 3 United States (USA) 5 4 1 10 4 Russia (RUS) 4 5 3 12 5 Hungary (HUN) 4 1 1 6 6 Croatia (CRO) 3 2 0 5 7 Australia (AUS) 3 1 4 8 8 Italy (ITA) 2 2 6 10 9 Germany (GER) 2 1 1 4 10 Czech Republic (CZE) 2 0 1 3 India 1 and Britain no where in the top 10 ....... so exposed .that britain and India are anywhere close in shooting ........ Lie 1 exposed ....... Then how does Britain get 22 medals versus Indias 16.......... by cheating and using all the clever tricks department 1. TRICK 1 ....... split yourself into 6 different countries during the commonwealth games - England , wales scotland , NI , Guernsey , jersey , isle of man etc ..... so when india gets to send 2 shooters per event , you get to send 12 shooters ....... very even 2. Use a non standard program with weird sports like queens prize ( 2 events ) - which no one has ever heard of outside Britain probably while not using standard events of the olympic program like pairs mixed which India is good at So anyway if you believe that you guys are as good as India look to the olympics ............ And I bet you the kohinoor that we will do better than you at shooting Whoops you have already cheated us of the kohinoor
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in my opinion...... The excuse given by the CWG is ridiculous ....... They could not hold a shooting championship in South England as they did not have facilities ....Sounds ridculous ... while they could do it manchester , glasgow , edinborough , london, bisley etc etc ....... the biusley venue is just an hour and a half away ..... ( closer than the cycling venue ) This is clearly aimed at an unsportsmanlike thwarting of sports they do badly at ( and India does wellat ) ......... Personally I think that the Birmingham team are a pack of cheaters ....... and should be called out for what they are ....... I am glad Indians called them out for this .......
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sorry that is unintelligible .......... according to you commonwealth sports means not commonwealth games but = commonwealth countries who compete at the CWG sorry I must be losing my touch on English .........
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the reason seems illogical 1. They could have hosted the event in Bisley in Surrey, which also hosted the shooting events in the 2002 Manchester Commonwealth Games. that venue was closer to Birmingham than the Velodrome on the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in London, where track cycling will take place. 2. shooting has been in the shortlist of sports since 1970 literally .......... so you are removing one of the main sports of the games ..... the sport which we are doing the best at ...... 3. to be honest for a games to be popular you need to cater to all the nation states ....... this is one of the major sports of india , but also of pakistan, singapore and bangladesh so you are kind of turning your back to some of the asian nations participating and catering to only the big three .......... In my view it was an ill thought out decision ............ i think if india was to do it we would not try to remove one of the major olympic sports in the first place .....
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