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14 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

Apparently majority of Hungarians are brainwashed and controlled by dictator Orban and it needs democratic revolution and bombs and sacrifice brought by the NATO.

You mean the majority of the voters. Orbán has some racional answers to some serious questions, while the lefties just follow the EU' insanity. That's enough him to win elections.

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, lapaj said:

You mean the majority of the voters. Orbán has some racional answers to some serious questions, while the lefties just follow the EU' insanity. That's enough him to win elections.

 

 

 

Agree. I don’t think that a bunch of people who think you can run an industrialised country off windmills or that men can get pregnant have the standing to go around telling anyone else how to live their lives.

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On 9/16/2022 at 5:39 AM, Vektor said:

The issue is first and foremost with the media, which is incredibly one-sided. The power that Orbán has in his hands to control the narrative in Hungary is simply ridiculous and it shouldn't have been allowed to happen inside the European Union, but here we are. The EU should have implemented some very strict rules on state controlled media in their member states, so we couldn't end up in a situation where opposition politicians are not even allowed to speak on national television. State controlled media should represent and be for every citizen, it should be neutral, not right-wing or liberal, but here in Hungary it only represents Orbán, Fidesz and the conservative worldview. 

 

But the damage has already been done, there's no going back. The EU is waaaay too late to correct their mistakes. Orbán is here to stay for a very long time and I can't even say that we are undemocratic. Hungarian people have decided that they want to live under Orbán, they like his way of thinking, his worldview, his narratives about decaying Western world. This is where we are now, this is what Hungarian society can reach on their current level of development and the EU can't do anything about it other than hope that Hungary will choose a different path once Orbán is gone after a couple of more decades. 

How is the political sistem in your country?, presidencialist?, parlamentarism?.

 

Its a wire political phenomenon the hungarian for being in the UE, its  very common to see this in Latin America, specially with left populist goverments.

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23 hours ago, Grassmarket said:

Agree. I don’t think that a bunch of people who think you can run an industrialised country off windmills or that men can get pregnant have the standing to go around telling anyone else how to live their lives.

I pity you and all who has to live together with many people who thinks craps like that and want to impose to the rest using the state.

In Latin America, at least for now, its a clearly minority.

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12 minutes ago, konig said:

How is the political sistem in your country?, presidencialist?, parlamentarism?.

 

Its a wire political phenomenon the hungarian for being in the UE, its  very common to see this in Latin America, specially with left populist goverments.

It's parliamentary. The head of state (president) has no power whatsoever, the Parliament holds all the power. But that's not really the case anymore, in reality the Hungarian Parliament has become a joke, Orbán essentially makes ALL the decisions as the prime minister, he holds absolute power over his party, which has supermajority in the Parliament, therefore one man rules all, which is the opposite of what a parliamentary system should be. 

 

Hungarian society is simply not capable to move on from their desire to have a "strong leader who rules us all". We were meant to be a representative democracy with a prime minister who is waaay less powerful than the governing party or parties themselves. But we couldn't have that, we need our strong leader... And this is event true for the left-wing Hungarians, they are happily worshipping their own version of Orbán. We are not ready to be a real democracy and we won't be for quite some time. Any advances we made after the fall of communist was undone by the last two decades of awful Hungarian leadership, and this includes the failures of the left-wing during the second half of the 2000s, not just Orbán.

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