[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[heywoodu 16,460]

On 9/20/2023 at 1:08 AM, Monzanator said:

Someone still cares about that piece of land? There's nothing important in Karabach, it's only a dick measuring contest between Armenia and Azerbaijan at this stage. The world doesn't care about it. I still remember TV news about the first N-K war in early 1990s. Thirty years on and it's still on. Nobody freaking cares. I bet in 2055 the next generation will be hearing about this too.

Sadly certain parts of the world are basically permanent wasp nests. Sometimes it cools down for a bit, but there's always going to be whatever that kicks the nest and the whole thing blows up again, be that with actual war or non-stop bitching between countries (especially the whole big line between roughly Morocco east towards Turkey or so).

 

And now the Poland vs Ukraine bitching contest, nobody really cares about what the presidents of the countries say (especially now, because the international eyes are still firmly on Ukraine vs Russia and not on it's neighbours), but it does fill up a bit of space in the news broadcasts, so there we go.

[LDOG 2,477]

3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Sadly certain parts of the world are basically permanent wasp nests. Sometimes it cools down for a bit, but there's always going to be whatever that kicks the nest and the whole thing blows up again, be that with actual war or non-stop bitching between countries (especially the whole big line between roughly Morocco east towards Turkey or so).

 

And now the Poland vs Ukraine bitching contest, nobody really cares about what the presidents of the countries say (especially now, because the international eyes are still firmly on Ukraine vs Russia and not on it's neighbours), but it does fill up a bit of space in the news broadcasts, so there we go.

"International eyes" = western europe/USA, who bitch all the time about stuff only they care about but since they are powerful we're all supposed to pretend it's the most important thing in the world.

[Olympian1010 8,297]

Poland v. Ukraine getting a lot of attention, but the India v. Canada drama is just as interesting too. These geopolitical spats are coming too quick to keep up with this week.

[Grassmarket 4,294]

1 hour ago, LDOG said:

"International eyes" = western europe/USA, who bitch all the time about stuff only they care about but since they are powerful we're all supposed to pretend it's the most important thing in the world.

Agree, the whole concept of “International Law” is basically a way for Western lawyers to earn big bucks & travel First Class & stay in luxury hotels. Take the International Court away from The Hague, locate it in Bolivia & pay local salaries & you would never ever hear of it again.

[George_D 1,638]

Armenia is a CSTO member , but Azerbaijan no. How it haopens that Russia support Azerbaijan in NK conflict or at least they arent neutral?

[Noorderling29 238]

1 hour ago, Grassmarket said:

Agree, the whole concept of “International Law” is basically a way for Western lawyers to earn big bucks & travel First Class & stay in luxury hotels. Take the International Court away from The Hague, locate it in Bolivia & pay local salaries & you would never ever hear of it again.

Which international court in The Hague do you mean, as there are two courts that could be described as such.  Also, international law is much more than those two courts. There’s for instance that “favorite” of right wing Britons, the European Court of Human Rights in Strassbourg.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Noorderling29

[Olympian1010 8,297]

1 hour ago, Grassmarket said:

Agree, the whole concept of “International Law” is basically a way for Western lawyers to earn big bucks & travel First Class & stay in luxury hotels. Take the International Court away from The Hague, locate it in Bolivia & pay local salaries & you would never ever hear of it again.

Of course, comments like this also undermine the important work those courts have done in prosecuting war criminals and other high profile international criminals.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Olympian1010

[bestmen 2,922]

Historically things were never good between poland/Ukraine...Poles  tried to help Ukraine just to show how anti Russia they are 

[Grassmarket 4,294]

15 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

Of course, comments like this also undermine the important work those courts have done in prosecuting war criminals and other high profile international criminals.

At enormous expense, at glacial speed and at a great distance from the places where the crimes were committed.  It took 25 years for the  &  tribunals to complete their work for example. A highly paid career for many lawyers, interpreters & other lucky western functionaries, but not necessarily justice for the victims.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Grassmarket

[Noorderling29 238]

Just a quick look shows you’re wrong again.
 

The website of the Rwanda tribunal informs us that there are currently 10 judges, with a majority not from Western countries (Togo, Senegal, China, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Madagascar).

 

from wikipedia: the Yugoslavia tribunal had nearly 90 judges, with at least 40 from non western countries.