rafalgorka 1,540 Posted December 8, 2020 #911 Share Posted December 8, 2020 16 hours ago, intoronto said: No one cares about Belarus, get to the part everyone is waiting for You are so terribly wrong here, I know Canada is far away from Eastern and Middle Europe but you must know that a lot of people care about Belarus here right now, and although I criticise IOC in different matters a lot, this decision involving Lukashenka and co. was really good. Highlighting this problem at the beginning of the conference also means a lot to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,685 Posted December 8, 2020 #912 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 hours ago, MHSN said: Thanks, I will have hard time to find an equal word in Persian for that. it sounds like something expensive and beside that how come something like this can have TV coverage ? TV guys are going to race with them the entire weekend ? in that kind of races, the coverage normally is about webcams placed on the boats and satellite tracking, plus aerial coverage (with helicopters and fixed cameras) of the finish area... it's like you can already see in regattas like the Vandèe Globe or the Quebec-Saint Malo or the Sydney-Hobart (just to name 3 of the most prestigious races of this kind in the world)... and yes, those races are expensive (in terms of boats research and construction) and above all, they are very dangerous (only a few specialists can cope with offshore sea weather conditions...and sometimes tragedies happen in any case)... it's definitely not a sport with a possible wide base of participants (basically there's no chance to match the current IOC criteria -worldwide spreading, gender equality, tv friendly action- for including it into the Games program)... dcro and MHSN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur 683 Posted December 8, 2020 #913 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Idk in other countrys, but events like Volvo Ocean Race and things like that are far more popular in Spain that any other sailing event. The Offshore event would have drawn some attention, at least here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 5,645 Posted December 8, 2020 #914 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, rafalgorka said: You are so terribly wrong here, I know Canada is far away from Eastern and Middle Europe but you must know that a lot of people care about Belarus here right now, and although I criticise IOC in different matters a lot, this decision involving Lukashenka and co. was really good. Highlighting this problem at the beginning of the conference also means a lot to me. My comment was made in jest hence the emoji at the end. Belarus matters and happy to see the IOC take action here. The order of the announcements yesterday could have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,625 Posted December 8, 2020 #915 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 hours ago, phelps said: in that kind of races, the coverage normally is about webcams placed on the boats and satellite tracking, plus aerial coverage (with helicopters and fixed cameras) of the finish area... it's like you can already see in regattas like the Vandèe Globe or the Quebec-Saint Malo or the Sydney-Hobart (just to name 3 of the most prestigious races of this kind in the world)... and yes, those races are expensive (in terms of boats research and construction) and above all, they are very dangerous (only a few specialists can cope with offshore sea weather conditions...and sometimes tragedies happen in any case)... it's definitely not a sport with a possible wide base of participants (basically there's no chance to match the current IOC criteria -worldwide spreading, gender equality, tv friendly action- for including it into the Games program)... thanks now I have a better idea about it. I have to repeat that I know almost nothing about Sailing the sport almost doesn't even exist here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,846 Posted December 8, 2020 #916 Share Posted December 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, intoronto said: My comment was made in jest hence the emoji at the end. Belarus matters and happy to see the IOC take action here. The order of the announcements yesterday could have been better. https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1101730/lukashenko-to-challenge-tokyo-2020-ban Lukashenko isn't happy about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiago_simoes 1,423 Posted December 8, 2020 #917 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Dnl said: Unfortunately like any other thing the IOC trying to get in the Olympics, in the name of “drawing young crowd” and “equality” , sorry to say but it seems that someone there is trying to ruin the “older games” for a version much more progressive, while cruising athletes in the process... It's not that bad. I don't support most of the proposals, but few of them have been accepted, anyway. The problem is that many people here are on the verge of being hysterical about any change on the program. How come they are trying to ruin the "older games" while weightlifting and boxing are still part of the program? So, now people pretend to care about the 50 km walk event too? Do you guys really want to watch swimmers from smaller nations clocking times that you guys could probably beat after two or three years of serious training? I understand that many federations lost quotas, but there has to be a limit. I was mad about artistic gymnastics losing quotas at first, but after giving it some thought, I think it's okay. In my opinion, the only federation which might have had it really bad is ICF, but even so it's not like the whole world will riot with changes in such a minor sport. I'm sorry to canoe fans, but that's the way it is. I support gender equality and inclusion of more medal events for women, but I'm not that into mixed events -- still, they comprise only 22 events, while 307 events will remain single-gender. Skate, surfing and breakdancing will coexist with modern pentathlon, badminton and fencing. Wider audiences will enjoy football while a small number of nations will enjoy more field hockey. Bottom line is: it could have been much worse. If they go for a truly global and more urban take on the program, many other sports will be doomed. As it is, there's still room for pretty much everybody to enjoy the program. It's not perfect, of course, but it's not like it was before by any stretch of the imagination. Olympian1010 and intoronto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted December 8, 2020 #918 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Oooooooh. More salt please. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,838 Posted December 8, 2020 #919 Share Posted December 8, 2020 btw fun fact. Slovakia won in Rio 4 medals 2 Golds and 2 Silvers Golds: 50km Race Walk and Canoe Slalom M C2 Silvers: Canoe Sprint K4-1000m and Canoe Slalom M C1 2 of them already are not in the Tokyo program, the third will be cut after the games. Not sure if anybody can beat us in this stat dcro, thiago_simoes, rafalgorka and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,210 Posted December 8, 2020 #920 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, hckosice said: btw fun fact. Slovakia won in Rio 4 medals 2 Golds and 2 Silvers Golds: 50km Race Walk and Canoe Slalom M C2 Silvers: Canoe Sprint K4-1000m and Canoe Slalom M C1 2 of them already are not in the Tokyo program, the third will be cut after the games. Not sure if anybody can beat us in this stat Almost feels like that CSLX thing was added out of pity for Slovakia. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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