avlar 286 Posted May 31 #1 Share Posted May 31 (edited) Official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes Short notes from the IOC statement: 1. Decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation. 3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not 4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs). Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet. Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision. The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table. Here we have russians - belorussians below Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if needed Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay AIN - Nachin MONGUSH Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg a) Lu Feng ** or b) Frank Chamizo Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov AIN - Arslan BAGAEV Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg a) Illia ARCHAIA** or b) Magomed Ibragimov Reallocated to Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg a) Gabija DILYTE** or b) Emanuela LIUZZI Reallocated to Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Annika WENDLE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Khongorzul BOLDSAIKHAN **** AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA (rejected by the athlete) Reallocated to Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Ameline DOUARRE AIN - Alina KASABIEVA Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Razvan ARNAUT Reallocated to ****** Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Kamal Ameer BEY Reallocated to Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu AIN - Alan OSTAEV Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Georgi IVANOV** Reallocated to Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Nikita Rafalovich Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Reallocation to another NOC Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road - AIN - Tamara DRONOVA Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road - AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road - AIN - Alexandr VLASOV belorussians: Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if needed Cycling Hanna TSERAKH Road AIN - Hanna TSERAKH Trampoline Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Women's AIN - Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Trampoline Ivan LITVINOVICH Men's AIN - Ivan LITVINOVICH Taekwondo Georgi Gurtsiev 58 kg Lev Korneev Reallocated to *** Weightlifting Siuzanna VALODZKA W71kg MIRABAL FERIA Yeniuska AIN - Siuzanna VALODZKA Weightlifting Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU M102kg DEHDAR Reza AIN - Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU Weightlifting ASAYONAK Petr M89kg SANTAVY Boady Robert Reallocation to another NOC Weightlifting ZIAZIULIN Eduard M102+kg Kamil Kucera Reallocation to another NOC Wrestling Aryan Tsiutryn Men's freestyle 57 kg Vladimir EGOROV Reallocated to Wrestling Mahamedkhabib Kadzimahamedau Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo AIN - Yahor AKULICH [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Aliaksandr Hushtyn Men's freestyle 97 kg Radu LEFTER AIN - Uladzislau KAZLOU [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Dzianis Khramiankou Men's freestyle 125 kg Kamil Tomasz KOSCIOLEK Reallocated to Wrestling Kiryl Maskevich Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Lasha GOBADZE Reallocated to Wrestling Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Mihail KAJAIA AIN - Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Wrestling Pavel Hlinchuk Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi AIN - Dzmitri ZARUBSKI [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Vanesa Kaladzinskaya Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki AIN - Viyaleta REBIKAVA [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Iryna Kurachkina Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA Reallocated to Wrestling Veranika Ivanova Women's freestyle 62 kg Johanna LINDBORG AIN - Krystsina SAZYKINA [7] Reallocated to Shooting Uladzislau Dzemesh Men`s Air Pistol 10m Reallocation to another NOC Pentathlon Mariya Gnedtchik Women`s individual Veronika NOVOTNA Reallocation to another NOC Pentathlon Anastasiya Prokopenko Women`s individual Anna JURT Reallocation to another NOC Reallocation in judo calculate by @Cinnamon Bun is in the separate post Reallocation in wrestling by UWW https://uww.org/article/uww-reallocates-16-olympic-games-paris-2024-quotas Remarks: * - quota should go to JO Seongbin but has selected its maximum number of participant and it is unlikely that IWF or NF will revise that selecion. Thanks to @Jan Linha and @phelps ** - important precedent was found by @Faramir to show alternative way of reallocation supported by @Art Art: a) at a single tournament - quota goes to the first eligible athlete at the tournament where it was won by AIN, not taking into account those who won quotas later b) chronologocally - tournament by tournament - with cascading redistribution of quotas, taking into account those who won quotas later and redistributing their quotas from later tournaments. These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC. *** - thanks for @mard0n , @MantaRaymarc , @Jan Linha @Майкл. It looks to be the first reallocations confirmed by NOCs **** - Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA has priority for this reallocation but she has another reallocation spot from European qualifier which took place earlier ****** - confirmed by NF according to @IoNuTzZ [7] - the IOC invited the athlete, but the quota was rejected by the NOC of belarus https://wrestling.by/news/lish-odin-belorusskij-borecz-primet-uchastie-na-olimpiade Edited 15 minutes ago by avlar Update pluto, rafalgorka and Faramir 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 286 Posted May 31 Author #2 Share Posted May 31 (edited) IMPORTANT! Final decisions by the IOC are in the FIRST post of the topic. ------------------- 1. This list contains AIN`s atheltes with russian passports which "qualified" for Paris - 2024. (Belorussians are not included yet) 2. As well as possible reallocation and the reason to reallocate quota. 3. I have created this separate thread ( @pluto asked it) to keep all the information together because now it is spread over different sports and must not be mixed with the general war-supporters thread. Here we have only the persons whose profiles will be evaluated by the IOC as a single institution to decide their fate. 4. The reasons of reallocation were taken from the official documents prepared by Ukraine for the IOC. update 01.06.24 - Bach ensured Ukraine that all these facts will be taken into consideration - the most recent quote on this from Olena Hovorova (Olympic medallist, now advisor of the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine) - 25.05.24 https://www.facebook.com/olenagovorovakyiv/posts/122149886438205596?ref=embed_post (Earlier - Olha Saladukha (London bronze medallist and deputy of Ukrainian parliament) . Since quota distribution and reallocation are the processes of great interest everyone will be able to evaluate possibility of reallocation of the certain quota. Please, feel free to correct possible reallocations. The list to be ammended with new data to come. People in bold are 99% likely to be removed from the games, in my oppinion. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis Liked post in support of Putin 24.02.24 Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki Likes in social networks * as for me, this would not be enough for the IOC... yet Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara Liked pro-war post in social network Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska Member of the Cental Sport Club of Army Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun Participation in war-propaganda tournament Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi Liked Z post in social networks Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) Crowfunding campaing for russian army Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia Participation in pro-war event Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Teams of AIN`s are not allowed Note on the statement, that quotas goes to the NOC but not the athlete: AIN`s represnt themselves only but not NOC, so all their quotas are by name, futhermore ROC is suspended. I do not want to create unnecessary expectations with thsese possible reallocations. We know that Bach can decide it his way. But of course, each NOC should defend its athletes and their chances to go to the Olympics. Update 06.06.24. Judo Russians announced their squad for the Olympic games in Paris including 12 people. They did it before the qualification dedaline so the rankings are not finalized and it is to early to predict possible quotas transfer to ceretain athletes. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Judo TASOEV Inal M100+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Pro-war activities in social networks Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey M100 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail M90 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo ARBUZOV Timur M81 ? ? Judo LAVRENTEV Danil M73 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo CHOPANOV Murad M66 ? ? Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan M60 ? ? Judo STARTSEVA Elis W78+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina W70 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Photos with Z Propaganda event involving children from the occupied territories of Ukraine Judo LILUASHVILI Dali W63 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria W57 ? ? Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina W48 ? ? Links to the source documents (the text have english versions at the bottom): Canoe, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24802/ Wrestling 1, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24732/ Wrestling 2, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24843/ Taekwondo, Ministry of youth and sport of Ukraine, Russian taekwondo athletes contracted with military structures Trampoline, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24666/ Judo, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24760/ Edited Sunday at 01:27 PM by avlar phelps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,377 Posted May 31 #3 Share Posted May 31 Just now, avlar said: Larin`s quota in taekwondo... I really do not know how it should be reallocated. May be someone can help? Next athlete in the qualification ranking pluto and avlar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 2,061 Posted May 31 #4 Share Posted May 31 Canoë sprint C2 women ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 286 Posted May 31 Author #5 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, Benolympique said: Canoë sprint C2 women ??? Yes, they sjould be excluded too - but It was a belorussian pair in C2W. I think, i will prepare separate table for belorussians. rafalgorka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 2,061 Posted May 31 #6 Share Posted May 31 1 minute ago, avlar said: Yes, they sjould be excluded too - but It was a belorussian pair in C2W. I think, i will prepare separate table for belorussians. because I would like France to receive a re-allocation pluto and avlar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 126 Posted May 31 #7 Share Posted May 31 Chamizo very likely to be relocated? I hope he is informed and training normally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto 3 Posted May 31 #8 Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, avlar said: 1. This list contains AIN`s atheltes with russian passports which "qualified" for Paris - 2024. (Belorussians are not included yet) 2. As well as possible reallocation and the reason to reallocate quota. 3. I have created this separate thread ( @pluto asked it) to keep all the information together because now it is spread over different sports and must not be mixed with the general war-supporters thread. Here we have only the persons whose profiles will be evaluated by the IOC as a single institution to decide their fate. 4. The reasons of reallocation were taken from the official documents prepared by Ukraine for the IOC. Bach ensured Olha Saladukha (London bronze medallist and deputy of Ukrainian parliament) that all these facts will be taken into consideration. Since quota distribution and reallocation are the processes of great interest everyone will be able to evaluate possibility of reallocation of the certain quota. Please, feel free to correct possible reallocations. The list to be ammended with new data to come. People in bold are 99% likely to be removed from the games, in my oppinion. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis Liked post in support of Putin 24.02.24 Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki Likes in social networks * as for me, this would not be enough for the IOC... yet Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara Liked pro-war post in social network Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska Member of the Cental Sport Club of Army Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun Participation in war-propaganda tournament Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi Liked Z post in social networks Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) Crowfunding campaing for russian army Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia Participation in pro-war event Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Teams of AIN`s are not allowed Note on the statement, that quotas goes to the NOC but not the athlete: AIN`s represnt themselves only but not NOC, so all their quotas are by name, futhermore ROC is suspended. I do not want to create unnecessary expectations with thsese possible reallocations. We know that Bach can decide it his way. But of course, each NOC should defend its athletes and their chances to go to the Olympics. Thank you for all this avlar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa Maciel 1,510 Posted May 31 #9 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, avlar said: Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Teams of AIN`s are not allowed I get why people are making this argument - applying a strict definition of the term 'team' - but that wasn't what the IOC did. In their decision, the IOC did not define what constitutes a 'team' and instead delegated that responsibility to the international federations: Source: Q&A regarding the participation of athletes with a Russian or Belarusian passport in international competitions (olympics.com) So, the question of what constitutes a team in canoeing will be determined by reference to the ICF Canoe Sprint Competition Rules 2023 v3.3: Source: 2023_icf_canoe_sprint_competition_rules_with_8-lane_allocation_tables_1_v3_update.pdf (canoeicf.com) I appreciate that this is not a popular opinion on this thread, but on the basis of the above, I don't see any reason why they would not be eligible for the quota in the C2 event. I'd also say that this approach - allowing crews of 1 or 2 athletes - is the same approach taken by World Rowing at last year's World Champs where Russia/Belarussian athletes were allowed to compete in the single and pair events. It will also be the same approach taken by the ITF when they inevitably allow Russian/Belarussian doubles to take part in the tennis tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 458 Posted May 31 #10 Share Posted May 31 24 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said: I get why people are making this argument - applying a strict definition of the term 'team' - but that wasn't what the IOC did. In their decision, the IOC did not define what constitutes a 'team' and instead delegated that responsibility to the international federations: Source: Q&A regarding the participation of athletes with a Russian or Belarusian passport in international competitions (olympics.com) So, the question of what constitutes a team in canoeing will be determined by reference to the ICF Canoe Sprint Competition Rules 2023 v3.3: Source: 2023_icf_canoe_sprint_competition_rules_with_8-lane_allocation_tables_1_v3_update.pdf (canoeicf.com) I appreciate that this is not a popular opinion on this thread, but on the basis of the above, I don't see any reason why they would not be eligible for the quota in the C2 event. I'd also say that this approach - allowing crews of 1 or 2 athletes - is the same approach taken by World Rowing at last year's World Champs where Russia/Belarussian athletes were allowed to compete in the single and pair events. It will also be the same approach taken by the ITF when they inevitably allow Russian/Belarussian doubles to take part in the tennis tournament. Okay, but here I found something in this document 14.1.4.b - Junior athletes can compete in a maximum of two (2) team boat events in the U23 age group. So at junior level C2 is a team boat event and on senior is not? I don't understand why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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