NearPup 2,421 Posted July 8 #231 Share Posted July 8 On 7/6/2024 at 4:25 AM, Art Art said: Officially! Russian wrestlers, who received an invitation from the IOC, refused to compete at the Games in Paris. Kind of crazy all the drama around athletes given how few of them there will be in the end. Surlympics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlo 83 Posted July 8 #232 Share Posted July 8 This should make you think twice about true russian intentions. Maybe after today's attacks doubts are even smaller by at least some of you. Russia is only playing with the world, they don't care, it's all just a plan of their ironic approach to any basic values. They are also only playing with ioc, even in this situation. avlar 1 I fell in love with sports.....since i first seen it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 311 Posted July 8 Author #233 Share Posted July 8 26 minutes ago, Pavlo said: This should make you think twice about true russian intentions. Maybe after today's attacks doubts are even smaller by at least some of you. Russia is only playing with the world, they don't care, it's all just a plan of their ironic approach to any basic values. They are also only playing with ioc, even in this situation. I see no reasons why russians can take part in the Olympics at all Pavlo and Adriano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,793 Posted July 8 #234 Share Posted July 8 On 7/6/2024 at 12:25 PM, Art Art said: Officially! Russian wrestlers, who received an invitation from the IOC, refused to compete at the Games in Paris. Are you sure? I'm now being told that that "the Russians may not even withdraw in time and just ignore the IOC on the formal side" I admit I don't know what that exactly means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlo 83 Posted July 8 #235 Share Posted July 8 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dragon said: Are you sure? I'm now being told that that "the Russians may not even withdraw in time and just ignore the IOC on the formal side" I admit I don't know what that exactly means. The same is with C2 etc. The only thing that went crazy is Russia, really. After today, especially after deliberate attack on childrens hospital (cancer type too) Russia should be expelled from ioc for many years. As i wrote earlier we know them the best. Believe me, fact, not opinion. And all of this is just a kind of fun / play for them, i assure you. Sick minds. And this is this difference with Israel etc. Everywhere else there is some basic hint of basic rules, values. Only Russia plays on purpose without any human rules. Edited July 8 by Pavlo Wojtala and avlar 2 I fell in love with sports.....since i first seen it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 4,858 Posted July 8 #236 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Dragon said: Are you sure? I'm now being told that that "the Russians may not even withdraw in time and just ignore the IOC on the formal side" I admit I don't know what that exactly means. Not withdraw and not show up. Essentially a big fu to the those who could have been reallocated quotas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 311 Posted July 8 Author #237 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Pavlo said: The same is with C2 etc. The only thing that went crazy is Russia, really. After today, especially after deliberate attack on childrens hospital (cancer type too) Russia should be expelled from ioc for many years. As i wrote earlier we know them the best. Believe me, fact, not opinion. And all of this is just a kind of fun / play for them, i assure you. Sick minds. And this is this difference with Israel etc. Everywhere else there is some basic hint of basic rules, values. Only Russia plays on purpose without any human rules. russian sport-express today reacted to the elections in France: "The amazing scenario with the right-wing coming to power, increasing violence in the streets and the incredible invitation of russians to the Olympics by the new government also did not materialize." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavlo 83 Posted July 8 #238 Share Posted July 8 6 hours ago, avlar said: russian sport-express today reacted to the elections in France: "The amazing scenario with the right-wing coming to power, increasing violence in the streets and the incredible invitation of russians to the Olympics by the new government also did not materialize." This is kind of sick language of war propaganda country. Sth like in Germany in 30s. Unreadable b...shit, especially that right-wing didn't come to power. Sth like double-thought in amazing 1984 (dwumyśl in polish translation)...book about Russia in fact. I fell in love with sports.....since i first seen it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 311 Posted July 9 Author #239 Share Posted July 9 On 5/31/2024 at 7:16 PM, avlar said: Official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes Short notes from the IOC statement: 1. Decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation. 3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not 4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs). Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet. Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision. The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table. Here we have russians - belorussians below Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay AIN - Nachin MONGUSH [9] Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV [9] Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Lu Feng ** Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov AIN - Arslan BAGAEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia ARCHAIA** Reallocated to Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg Oleksandr Khotsianivskyi AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 k Gabija DILYTE** Reallocated to Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Annika WENDLE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA [9] Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Khongorzul BOLDSAIKHAN **** AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA (rejected by the athlete) Reallocated to Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Ameline DOUARRE AIN - Alina KASABIEVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Razvan ARNAUT Reallocated to ****** Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Kamal Ameer BEY Reallocated to Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Turpal Bisultanov DEN AIN - Alan OSTAEV [9] Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV [9] Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Georgi IVANOV** Reallocated to Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Nikita Rafalovich Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Reallocation to another NOC Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI AIN - Alexey KOROVASHKOV Zakhar PETROV Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road - AIN - Tamara DRONOVA Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road - AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road - AIN - Alexandr VLASOV - rejected by athlete AIN - Gleb SYRITSA Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina Women's -48kg ??? ??? AIN - DUDINA Kristina [8] Reallocation to ... Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria Women's -57 Shukurjon Aminova Reallocated to Judo LILUASHVILI Dali Women's -63kg Krystyna Homan (W78+) AIN - LILUASHVILI Dali [8] Reallocated to Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina Women's -70kg Tais Pina Reallocated to Judo STARTSEVA Elis Women's +78kg Moira Morillo AIN - STARTSEVA Elis [8] Reallocated to ??? Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan Men's -60kg Andrea Carlino Reallocated to Judo CHOPANOV Murad Men's -66kg Muhammed Demiral Reallocated to Judo LAVRENTEV Danil Men's -73kg STODOLSKI Adam AIN - Makhmadbek MAKHMADBEKOV [8] Reallocated to Judo ARBUZOV Timur Men's -81kg Achraf Moutti AIN - KARAPETYAN David [8] Reallocation to ... Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail Men's -90kg Eduard Trippel AIN - LORSANOV Mansur [8] Reallocation to ... Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey Men's -100kg Zsombor Veg Reallocated to Judo TASOEV Inal Men's +100kg Enej Marinic AIN - Valerii ENDOVITSKII [8] Reallocated to belorussians: Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Cycling Hanna TSERAKH Road AIN - Hanna TSERAKH Trampoline Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Women's AIN - Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Trampoline Ivan LITVINOVICH Men's AIN - Ivan LITVINOVICH Taekwondo Georgi Gurtsiev 58 kg Lev Korneev Reallocated to *** Weightlifting Siuzanna VALODZKA W71kg MIRABAL FERIA Yeniuska AIN - Siuzanna VALODZKA Weightlifting Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU M102kg DEHDAR Reza AIN - Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU Weightlifting ASAYONAK Petr M89kg SANTAVY Boady Robert Reallocated to Weightlifting ZIAZIULIN Eduard M102+kg Kamil Kucera Reallocated to Wrestling Aryan Tsiutryn Men's freestyle 57 kg Vladimir EGOROV Reallocated to Wrestling Mahamedkhabib Kadzimahamedau Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo AIN - Yahor AKULICH [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Aliaksandr Hushtyn Men's freestyle 97 kg Radu LEFTER AIN - Uladzislau KAZLOU [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Dzianis Khramiankou Men's freestyle 125 kg Kamil Tomasz KOSCIOLEK Reallocated to Wrestling Kiryl Maskevich Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Lasha GOBADZE Reallocated to Wrestling Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Mihail KAJAIA AIN - Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Wrestling Pavel Hlinchuk Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi AIN - Dzmitri ZARUBSKI [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Vanesa Kaladzinskaya Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki AIN - Viyaleta REBIKAVA [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Iryna Kurachkina Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA Reallocated to Wrestling Veranika Ivanova Women's freestyle 62 kg Johanna LINDBORG AIN - Krystsina SAZYKINA [7] Reallocated to Shooting Uladzislau Dzemesh Men`s Air Pistol 10m Reallocation to ... Pentathlon Mariya Gnedtchik Women`s individual Veronika NOVOTNA Reallocated to Pentathlon Anastasiya Prokopenko Women`s individual Anna JURT Reallocated to Reallocation in judo calculate by @Cinnamon Bun is in the separate post Reallocation in wrestling by UWW https://uww.org/article/uww-reallocates-16-olympic-games-paris-2024-quotas Remarks: * - quota should go to JO Seongbin but has selected its maximum number of participant and it is unlikely that IWF or NF will revise that selecion. Thanks to @Jan Linha and @phelps ** - important precedent was found by @Faramir to show alternative way of reallocation supported by @Art Art: a) at a single tournament - quota goes to the first eligible athlete at the tournament where it was won by AIN, not taking into account those who won quotas later b) chronologocally - tournament by tournament - with cascading redistribution of quotas, taking into account those who won quotas later and redistributing their quotas from later tournaments. These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC. *** - thanks for @mard0n , @MantaRaymarc , @Jan Linha @Майкл. It looks to be the first reallocations confirmed by NOCs **** - Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA has priority for this reallocation but she has another reallocation spot from European qualifier which took place earlier ****** - confirmed by NF according to @IoNuTzZ [7] - the IOC invited the athlete, but the quota was rejected by the NOC of belarus https://wrestling.by/news/lish-odin-belorusskij-borecz-primet-uchastie-na-olimpiade [8] - quota declined by russian judo federation. Waiting for official confirmation [9] - quota was accepted but later declined by russian wrestling federation. Waiting for official confirmation of rejection from each athlete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolii 7 Posted July 9 #240 Share Posted July 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, avlar said: Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet. Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision. The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table. can you mark where reallocation is confirmed and where is not. And there is no tennis in the table. There should be reallocations too as not all athletes accepted. Edited July 9 by Anatolii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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