phelps 6,893 Posted September 22, 2019 Author #81 Share Posted September 22, 2019 12 hours ago, phelps said: ISR vs RSA also rescheduled for noon CET tomorrow... ESP vs CZE is still without an official start time...probably it will be played only if it's going to have an influence on the final ranking of the tournament after the other 2 games to be played tomorrow at lunch time are over... ESP vs CZE has been officially rescheduled at 4 p.m. CET (still to be seen if they can play because of foreseen bad weather)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,893 Posted September 22, 2019 Author #82 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, dcro said: Italy pretty much has just as many Italian-Americans on the team, and even Venezuelans, but I guess Israel is easy to hate (as always). in the teamplaying this OQT there are "only" 8 American born and 3 South American born guys out of 24 players... less than half, which is one of the lowest percentages we've ever had in the last 30 years or so... hopefully, at the next WBC we're going to be able to fill the roster with all US-born MLB players (but I fear our NF will reject this option)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,562 Posted September 22, 2019 #83 Share Posted September 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, phelps said: in the teamplaying this OQT there are "only" 8 American born and 3 South American born guys out of 24 players... less than half, which is one of the lowest percentages we've ever had in the last 30 years or so... hopefully, at the next WBC we're going to be able to fill the roster with all US-born MLB players (but I fear our NF will reject this option)... Lol. If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted September 22, 2019 #84 Share Posted September 22, 2019 You can stop doing the calculations, as South Africa is expectedly being outclassed by the Israelis. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 477 Posted September 22, 2019 #85 Share Posted September 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Orisek said: Any chances for CZE to finish first? Or we can play only for second now? Hey, nice to see another Czech on this webside :-) ...... My information says, there is still a chance to win for Czechs. Firsly Israel must lose against South Africa. Then Italy must defeat Dutch and of course we must beat Spain. In this case, they will be matching statistics of won and lost games. And the decision maker will be a small table of statistics - according to my information it does not depend on how you played against other teams but mini table, where will be scored points, hits, etc ...... And I am giving a big chance to Czechs regarding this. Let's hope that everything will play according to our situation and we will make it to the Olympics. Or at least to the Final qualification tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,893 Posted September 22, 2019 Author #86 Share Posted September 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jan Linha said: Hey, nice to see another Czech on this webside :-) ...... My information says, there is still a chance to win for Czechs. Firsly Israel must lose against South Africa. Then Italy must defeat Dutch and of course we must beat Spain. In this case, they will be matching statistics of won and lost games. And the decision maker will be a small table of statistics - according to my information it does not depend on how you played against other teams but mini table, where will be scored points, hits, etc ...... And I am giving a big chance to Czechs regarding this. Let's hope that everything will play according to our situation and we will make it to the Olympics. Or at least to the Final qualification tournament. first... 14 minutes ago, dcro said: You can stop doing the calculations, as South Africa is expectedly being outclassed by the Israelis. then... 1 hour ago, phelps said: if more teams are tied at the end of the round robin, the tie breaker is the socalled Team Quality Balance (TQB)... Quote The official definition of TQB: “TQB is the sum of runs scored divided by the number of innings played on offense, minus the number of runs allowed, divided by the number of innings played on defense. For purposes of determining TQB, only the scores from the games between the tied teams are to be used in the calculation.” Jan Linha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajiv 25 Posted September 22, 2019 #87 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Doesn't basketball have a rule limiting the no of immigrants in a national team ? Funny how these "immigrants " are invariably African Americans who are usually in negligible numbers in the country's general population . I take the point about Chinese table tennis players being ubiquitous ( but every Western country especially the New World countries do have large Chinese populations ) These Jewish American baseballers are not descendants of Israelis ( in the last thousand years at least ). Probably their families came from Eastern Europe Would it be so hard to devise a universal general rule for diaspora/immigrants eligibility for national teams ? My (first ) suggestion is that a country cannot field a greater proportion of foreign born in a national team than the proportion of foreign born citizens among all the citizens living in the country So clearly countries like USA , Canada ,Australia could have a fair number . They are immigrant countries whish readily grant citizenship Countries like Qatar which may well have a huge foreign born population but very few Foreign born citizens so would not have many Diaspora producing countries like Italy and Greece would also have few . Maybe nowadays they have many foreign born in the country but few are citizens Funny how a country like the UK which has a huge diaspora -perhaps the biggest (in Europe at least ) ? - doesn't seem to have that many Anglo Americans / Canadians /Australians etc in their teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,893 Posted September 22, 2019 Author #88 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) Just now, rajiv said: Doesn't basketball have a rule limiting the no of immigrants in a national team ? Funny how these "immigrants " are invariably African Americans who are usually in negligible numbers in the country's general population . I take the point about Chinese table tennis players being ubiquitous ( but every Western country especially the New World countries do have large Chinese populations ) These Jewish American baseballers are not descendants of Israelis ( in the last thousand years at least ). Probably their families came from Eastern Europe Would it be so hard to devise a universal general rule for diaspora/immigrants eligibility for national teams ? My (first ) suggestion is that a country cannot field a greater proportion of foreign born in a national team than the proportion of foreign born citizens among all the citizens living in the country So clearly countries like USA , Canada ,Australia could have a fair number . They are immigrant countries whish readily grant citizenship Countries like Qatar which may well have a huge foreign born population but very few Foreign born citizens so would not have many Diaspora producing countries like Italy and Greece would also have few . Maybe nowadays they have many foreign born in the country but few are citizens Funny how a country like the UK which has a huge diaspora -perhaps the biggest (in Europe at least ) ? - doesn't seem to have that many Anglo Americans / Canadians /Australians etc in their teams Basketball has a rule about naturalized players (no more than one), but they can't rule on those who are citizens from their birth (even if they asked for the official documents later in their life)... they are 2 different situations... by the way, all of our Diaspora guys are Italian citizens (otherwise you wouldn't be allowed to play for our NT under the IOC rules)...if you have true Italian blood/heritage, you are Italian...and citizenship is automatically granted, provided you ask for it... all the other ways to get our citizenship are a different question...and it's not that easy to get it, especially if you come from a Country outside the European Union... Edited September 22, 2019 by phelps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,182 Posted September 22, 2019 #89 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Israel wins. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 3,577 Posted September 22, 2019 #90 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Game over for all... Israel will compete for the frist time in a baseball event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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