mpjmcevoy 275 Posted October 14, 2023 #541 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Doing a basic look at the 8 new team events and the world rankings, how a 6 team tournament might look, assuming as far as realistic continental representation LACROSSE: It's notable that the same basic teams turn up again and again at the top of the World rankings regardless of version of Lacrosse - Field, Box etc or gender N. America: USA, CAN, Iroquois Oceania : Australia Europe : Great Britain/England, Israel, to a lesser extent Germany Asia: Japan South America and Africa hardly figure So one suspects both tournaments are going to involve USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, Great Britain and one other - the other being either, USA2 (Iroquois), Israel or the winner of a playoff between Africa and South America. Not impossible #6 team are different in the two events (say men Iroquois, women, Israel) BASEBALL/SOFTBALL Great Britain have definitely risen in both the men's and women's game in recent years, but otherwise no surprises, the same basic system, the same likely teams FLAG FOOTBALL USA and Mexico seem the established powers (no Canada?) and given superstar NFL players like Tyreek hill have expressed an interest in trying to make the Games it could be painfully one sided Austria for some reason appear the established superpower in Europe, most of the non north American teams in the top 10 are European However Japan, Korea, Thailand and India are high enough, I think, toguarantee Asia a spot. As ever, it seems Africa will suffer. All that said, it would be interesting if decent 'tackle football' players in strong tackle football nations, esp Canada, choose to get involved. The sport is so underdeveloped, any shit could happen, frankly. CRICKET : Easily the most Global of the new sports (and arguably the one most likely to survive to 32, along with Baseball), it's hard to look past a Host and five continental teams set up which would likely be USA (Host), TRI/JAM (Panamerica) IND (Asia) Great Britain (Eng, and technically SCO and Northern Irish IRL players - Europe), South Africa (Africa) Australia (Oceania). This set up misses out badly on the possible India Pakistan dynamic but it is so hard to give West Indies nothing in favour of USA) rafalgorka, El Analyzer and Josh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuizGuilherme 213 Posted October 14, 2023 #542 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Brazil sucks in all this sports and they wont be developed here but i liked Cricket inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,660 Posted October 14, 2023 #543 Share Posted October 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, LuizGuilherme said: Brazil sucks in all this sports and they wont be developed here but i liked Cricket inclusion. They did qualify a women’s flag football team for The World Games. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konig 1,343 Posted October 14, 2023 #544 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) In Tokyo there were sports inclutions because the host want "some sports not original included" and in the USA Olimpyc Games we have the same but in am extreme version. A new return of the baseball/softball....ok Cricket, probably one of the biggest and most important absenses, its a good imcorporation of the most inintelligeble sport of all. Squash, acceptable incorporation and the only good for Argentina. Flag football and lacrosse.....ridicolous incorporations, thanks god the IOC are not interested in the "american red necks" like spectator, in the contrary the Nascar will be like new sport too..... Edited October 15, 2023 by konig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,439 Posted October 15, 2023 #545 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 4:34 PM, mpjmcevoy said: Doing a basic look at the 8 new team events and the world rankings, how a 6 team tournament might look, assuming as far as realistic continental representation LACROSSE: It's notable that the same basic teams turn up again and again at the top of the World rankings regardless of version of Lacrosse - Field, Box etc or gender N. America: USA, CAN, Iroquois Oceania : Australia Europe : Great Britain/England, Israel, to a lesser extent Germany Asia: Japan South America and Africa hardly figure So one suspects both tournaments are going to involve USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, Great Britain and one other - the other being either, USA2 (Iroquois), Israel or the winner of a playoff between Africa and South America. Not impossible #6 team are different in the two events (say men Iroquois, women, Israel) BASEBALL/SOFTBALL Great Britain have definitely risen in both the men's and women's game in recent years, but otherwise no surprises, the same basic system, the same likely teams FLAG FOOTBALL USA and Mexico seem the established powers (no Canada?) and given superstar NFL players like Tyreek hill have expressed an interest in trying to make the Games it could be painfully one sided Austria for some reason appear the established superpower in Europe, most of the non north American teams in the top 10 are European However Japan, Korea, Thailand and India are high enough, I think, toguarantee Asia a spot. As ever, it seems Africa will suffer. All that said, it would be interesting if decent 'tackle football' players in strong tackle football nations, esp Canada, choose to get involved. The sport is so underdeveloped, any shit could happen, frankly. CRICKET : Easily the most Global of the new sports (and arguably the one most likely to survive to 32, along with Baseball), it's hard to look past a Host and five continental teams set up which would likely be USA (Host), TRI/JAM (Panamerica) IND (Asia) Great Britain (Eng, and technically SCO and Northern Irish IRL players - Europe), South Africa (Africa) Australia (Oceania). This set up misses out badly on the possible India Pakistan dynamic but it is so hard to give West Indies nothing in favour of USA) already won the men's silver in Flag Football at the last World Games our federations having the sports in charge, have already said they will do whatever they can to recruit all the best American players with Italian heritage to try and win a medal in LA in both FF and also Lacrosse konig, intoronto and Josh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,379 Posted October 15, 2023 #546 Share Posted October 15, 2023 The bronze medal in lacrosse is wide open, nations have five years to develop. This reminds me of women's ice hockey mpjmcevoy and Josh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 3,057 Posted October 15, 2023 #547 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 8:34 AM, mpjmcevoy said: Doing a basic look at the 8 new team events and the world rankings, how a 6 team tournament might look, assuming as far as realistic continental representation LACROSSE: It's notable that the same basic teams turn up again and again at the top of the World rankings regardless of version of Lacrosse - Field, Box etc or gender N. America: USA, CAN, Iroquois Oceania : Australia Europe : Great Britain/England, Israel, to a lesser extent Germany Asia: Japan South America and Africa hardly figure So one suspects both tournaments are going to involve USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, Great Britain and one other - the other being either, USA2 (Iroquois), Israel or the winner of a playoff between Africa and South America. Not impossible #6 team are different in the two events (say men Iroquois, women, Israel) BASEBALL/SOFTBALL Great Britain have definitely risen in both the men's and women's game in recent years, but otherwise no surprises, the same basic system, the same likely teams FLAG FOOTBALL USA and Mexico seem the established powers (no Canada?) and given superstar NFL players like Tyreek hill have expressed an interest in trying to make the Games it could be painfully one sided Austria for some reason appear the established superpower in Europe, most of the non north American teams in the top 10 are European However Japan, Korea, Thailand and India are high enough, I think, toguarantee Asia a spot. As ever, it seems Africa will suffer. All that said, it would be interesting if decent 'tackle football' players in strong tackle football nations, esp Canada, choose to get involved. The sport is so underdeveloped, any shit could happen, frankly. CRICKET : Easily the most Global of the new sports (and arguably the one most likely to survive to 32, along with Baseball), it's hard to look past a Host and five continental teams set up which would likely be USA (Host), TRI/JAM (Panamerica) IND (Asia) Great Britain (Eng, and technically SCO and Northern Irish IRL players - Europe), South Africa (Africa) Australia (Oceania). This set up misses out badly on the possible India Pakistan dynamic but it is so hard to give West Indies nothing in favour of USA) Calling global a sport that’s only relevant in formen British colonies seems chauvinistic at best. intoronto, Olympian1010 and vinipereira 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 275 Posted October 15, 2023 #548 Share Posted October 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, mrv86 said: Calling global a sport that’s only relevant in formen British colonies seems chauvinistic at best. Afghanistan beat England today at the World Cup. Netherlands are also in the last 10. Neither, to the best of my knowledge, a former British colony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrv86 3,057 Posted October 15, 2023 #549 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Just now, mpjmcevoy said: Afghanistan beat England today at the World Cup. Netherlands are also in the last 10. Neither, to the best of my knowledge, a former British colony. Still, way behind being global. Good for them to get a chance to be showcased, but in the end I doubt they will be a core sport. intoronto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinipereira 3,118 Posted October 15, 2023 #550 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 12:47 PM, Olympian1010 said: They did qualify a women’s flag football team for The World Games. + a 4th place at the 2021 World Championships and currently 4th in ranking. So maybe we have a chance to qualify pending on the system. Olympian1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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