Jan Linha 590 Posted June 29, 2024 #1161 Share Posted June 29, 2024 Simona Kubová has retired Cinnamon Bun 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerkun 34 Posted June 29, 2024 #1162 Share Posted June 29, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 4:19 PM, Cinnamon Bun said: The only athlete I'm not sure on is Shane Ryan Expand He got the OQT on 50m freestyle. Cinnamon Bun 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh 11,107 Posted June 29, 2024 #1163 Share Posted June 29, 2024 @Cinnamon Bun how likely is it for Oleksiak to qualify in the women’s 100m freestyle? She’s on 894 points. MacNeil is above her in the rankings but will likely decline her spot. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bun 905 Posted June 29, 2024 #1164 Share Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) On 6/29/2024 at 6:08 PM, Josh said: @Cinnamon Bun how likely is it for Oleksiak to qualify in the women’s 100m freestyle? She’s on 894 points. MacNeil is above her in the rankings but will likely decline her spot. Expand If I'm not mistaken Oleksiak has been selected for one of the relays meaning she can enter the event without having to worry about getting one of the last OCT spots as she is part of the second part of the athlete total which is relay only athletes (relay athletes which haven't achieved an OQT). The athletes on the above list are once that can only qualify if spots open up once OQT, relay only and universality quotas are confirmed. Edited June 29, 2024 by Cinnamon Bun Josh 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerkun 34 Posted June 29, 2024 #1165 Share Posted June 29, 2024 And to be honest, I'm not sure if your interpretation is correct for two reasons. 1) There should be one athlete listed per distance in one batch even though 2nd best athlete has better score than 1st best in another distance. Unless one athlete has the best OCT in two distances. 2) Relay-only athletes should also be included. They need to be invited to swim in the individual distances because otherwise they wouldn't be relay-only. Per: https://swimswam.com/world-aquatics-confirms-that-relay-only-swimmers-dont-get-bonus-events-at-the-olympics/ maestro and Sub13 2 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bun 905 Posted June 29, 2024 #1166 Share Posted June 29, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 6:22 PM, Kerkun said: And to be honest, I'm not sure if your interpretation is correct for two reasons. 1) There should be one athlete listed per distance in one batch even though 2nd best athlete has better score than 1st best in another distance. Unless one athlete has the best OCT in two distances. 2) Relay-only athletes should also be included. They need to be invited to swim in the individual distances because otherwise they wouldn't be relay-only. Per: https://swimswam.com/world-aquatics-confirms-that-relay-only-swimmers-dont-get-bonus-events-at-the-olympics/ Expand As I mentioned above, the athletes on the list are only the athletes who need spots to open up after OQT, relay only and universality quotas are decided. The relay-only athletes may have to still technically be "invited" but they'd still have free range to compete as they can't take up 2 athlete quotas (relay-only and OCT). But if you want me to I'm happy to put these athletes in brackets and slot them into where they'd be if they weren't qualified via relays. Also regarding your first point, not every event has available athletes for OCT selection as some have athletes from countries that have at least one NOC with the OQT and/or athletes who already have OQT and/or OCT times from other events. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,847 Posted June 29, 2024 #1167 Share Posted June 29, 2024 (edited) On 6/29/2024 at 4:19 PM, Cinnamon Bun said: Apologies for the delay, wanted to make sure everything accurate and factually correct on the OCT eligibility side. When adding up the qualified individual and relay athletes I got a final number of 594. Due to all the relay athletes not being announced this number I had to make an educated guess fora couple of the relay nations so this number may be 3 or 4 out either side. I then added all the possible universality quotas which got me to a total of 319 before combining those numbers to get to 913. I then divided 319 by 4 as I expect about 50 - 60 of the countries eligible for 2 universality quotas to only take up 1 or potentially none at all and about 15-20 of the countries eligible for 1 universality quota to reject it, this left me with 79.75 that I rounded up to 80. I then subtracted 80 from the 913 total to get a final estimate of 833, meaning 19 quotas would be available for OCT athletes. With that said here is every athlete that is eligible to qualify via OCT after OQT, relay and universality quotas are dished out in order of their priority: - Heiko Gigler - Men’s 100m Free - 909 points - Jeremy Desplanches - Men’s 200m IM - 901 points - Zac Reid - Men's 400m Free - 900 points - Shogo Takeda - Men’s 1500m Free - 896 points - Tomas Koski - Men’s 200m Free - 880 points - Janja Segel - Women’s 200m Free - 880 points - Anita Gastaldi - Women’s 200m IM - 876 points - Denis-Lauren Popescu - Men’s 100m Back - 873 points - Jessica Vall Montero - Women’s 200m Breastroke - 872 points - Emma Chelius - Women’s 50m Free - 871 points - Santiago Grassi - Men’s 100m Fly - 870 points - David Thomasberger - Men’s 200m Fly - 863 points - Agostina Hein - Women’s 800m Free - 863 points - Francisca Soares Martins - Women’s 400m Free - 858 points - Ali Khalafalla - Men’s 50m Free - 856 points - John Shortt - Men’s 200m Back - 855 points - Ching Hwee Gan - Women’s 1500m Free - 852 points - Laura Cabanes Garzas - Women’s 200m Fly - 841 points - Aissia Claudia Prisecariu - Women’s 200m Back - 830 points - Berke Saka - Men’s 200m IM - 897 points - En Yi Letitia Sim - Women’s 200m Breastroke - 895 points - Youssef Ramadan - Men’s 100 Fly - 863 points - Kaloyan Bratanov - Men’s 50m Free - 853 points- - Ilaria Cusinato - Women’s 200m Fly - 841 points - Mateusz Chowaniec - Men’s 100m Free - 904 points - Emre Sakci - Men’s 50m Free - 852 points The only athlete I'm not sure on is Shane Ryan as I don't know if he's been selected for the Free part of the 4x100 medley or if Tom Fannon has instead. If he has then everyone below him would move up one place. Other than that and the potential of the likes of and rejecting some of these OCT quotas, this should all be factually correct and accurate. Expand the team is done and dusted, we're not gonna add anybody (even if WA would give us the chance), since those 2 girls are rested (Cusinato) or completely out of shape (Gastaldi) Edited June 29, 2024 by phelps Cinnamon Bun 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldira 88 Posted June 29, 2024 #1168 Share Posted June 29, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 6:03 PM, Kerkun said: He got the OQT on 50m freestyle. Expand But Swim Ireland have said they only accept times from the 2023 and 2024 WC and the Irish Nationals. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
avlar 372 Posted June 29, 2024 #1169 Share Posted June 29, 2024 license for Sharafutdinova, 100m, backstroke Adriano and MantaRaymarc 1 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dullard 732 Posted June 30, 2024 #1170 Share Posted June 30, 2024 On 6/29/2024 at 6:21 PM, Cinnamon Bun said: If I'm not mistaken Oleksiak has been selected for one of the relays meaning she can enter the event without having to worry about getting one of the last OCT spots as she is part of the second part of the athlete total which is relay only athletes (relay athletes which haven't achieved an OQT). The athletes on the above list are once that can only qualify if spots open up once OQT, relay only and universality quotas are confirmed. Expand There was some discussion about this over at SwimSwam around the time of Canadian trials and apparently you can't use an OCT if you're entered as relay only. Sub13, Josh and maestro 3 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/10367-swimming-qualification-to-summer-olympic-games-paris-2024/page/117/#findComment-641527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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