Artistic Gymnastics at the Summer Olympic Games 2020

[tirtha22 64]

China is furious over Daiki Hashimoto's Gold medal in Men's overall Gymnastics. Chinese claim that the decision was totally unfair and Japanese cheated and openly stole the Gold Medal disgracing the spirit of Gymnastics.

 

 

[George_D 874]

5 hours ago, gubchandrolai said:

Xiao's Highbar score looked unrealistically low though....

 

9 minutes ago, tirtha22 said:

China is furious over Daiki Hashimoto's Gold medal in Men's overall Gymnastics. Chinese claim that the decision was totally unfair and Japanese cheated and openly stole the Gold Medal disgracing the spirit of Gymnastics.

 

 

Well it seems Japan as hosts must take some gold medals and events based on judge's decision for score are the best chance... Poor Osaka in tennis, points there aren't awarded according to judge decision 

[gubchandrolai 17]

4 minutes ago, George_D said:

 

Well it seems Japan as hosts must take some gold medals and events based on judge's decision for score are the best chance... Poor Osaka in tennis, points there aren't awarded according to judge decision 

Seriously man, I couldn't believe when I saw the board displaying 14.066 after his routine..... Must have been stunning for Xiao, since even I was shocked as hell being a neutral here. 

 

 

[vinipereira 3,054]

7 hours ago, Orangehair43 said:

A very low scoring final - the winning score is wwell under 90 for the first time since the scoring changed. Back in 2016 the commentators in the UK were always going about how big it was for Max Whitlock to break 90 and how if Joe Frazier could get 88 he would be able to dream of a medal but in fact that would have secured one. 

You do realize that because the code of points change every Olympic cycle each time we'll see lower scores?

 

It's the same for Women's, where Biles is (was?) the only one that could potentially hit 60, where in previous cycles that was easier.

[thiago_simoes 1,359]

Xiao had 0.5 less in difficulty than Hashimoto in the horizontal bar. The execution was similar: 8.366 for Xiao and 8.433 for Hashimoto. It all came down to who performed the most difficult skills and, in the end, Xiao lost. There was also a 0.3 penalty for Xiao, but penalties are always a fault commited by the gymnast himself. So, he only has himself to blame for losing the gold medal. China absolutely needs to improve the difficulty of their gymnasts' routines and hopefully do better next time. Let's stop the accusations without supporting evidence. Gymnastics is not skateboarding or surfing.

[thiago_simoes 1,359]

7 hours ago, Orangehair43 said:

A very low scoring final - the winning score is wwell under 90 for the first time since the scoring changed. Back in 2016 the commentators in the UK were always going about how big it was for Max Whitlock to break 90 and how if Joe Frazier could get 88 he would be able to dream of a medal but in fact that would have secured one. 

In 2016 each routine received a maximum of 2.5 in bonus for mandatory skills, but since 2017 this bonus was reduced to 2.0. So, multiply 0.5 by six routines and you have 3.0 points less in bonus points compared to 2016. 

In 2016 the scores of the medalists were:

 Uchimura: 92.365
 Verniayev: 92.266
 Whitlock: 90.641

This year the scores were:

 Hashimoto: 88.465 (+3.0 = 91.465)
 Xiao: 88.065 (+3.0 = 91.065)
 Nagornyy: 88.031 (+3.0 = 91.031)

It was actually harder to win a medal this time than it was in 2016.

[George_D 874]

Biles withdrew also from womens all around final and controversy is continuing

[Vic Liu 1,592]

3 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:

Xiao had 0.5 less in difficulty than Hashimoto in the horizontal bar. The execution was similar: 8.366 for Xiao and 8.433 for Hashimoto. It all came down to who performed the most difficult skills and, in the end, Xiao lost. There was also a 0.3 penalty for Xiao, but penalties are always a fault commited by the gymnast himself. So, he only has himself to blame for losing the gold medal. China absolutely needs to improve the difficulty of their gymnasts' routines and hopefully do better next time. Let's stop the accusations without supporting evidence. Gymnastics is not skateboarding or surfing.

Do you think Japan’s vault really worthing 9.2 E score and total 14.7?

[thiago_simoes 1,359]

2 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

Do you think Japan’s vault really worthing 9.2 E score and total 14.7?

Maybe he was a bit over scored, but not much. His vault was high, distant from the table and his form is mostly very polished. The most apparent deductions I see are a slight pike off the table (-0.1), not hitting the center line/deviation in flight (-0.1), uncontrolled landing (-0.1) and large step (-0.3). There might be other deductions in dynamics and height that I'm not capable of correctly pointing out, and of course there was a penalty of -0.1 for stepping with one foot out of bounds. 14.7 is an acceptable score for that vault, especially because the same criteria seems to have been applied to everybody else.

 

Xiao was so excited after his horizontal bar routine that he forgot to salute to the judges and took a penalty of -0.3 in his final score. It's almost unbelievable that an experienced gymnast would forget about this in his final routine at the Olympics. Seriously, China has to reexamine their coaching staff because they're definitely not doing their job very well.

[gubchandrolai 17]

1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said:

Maybe he was a bit over scored, but not much. His vault was high, distant from the table and his form is mostly very polished. The most apparent deductions I see are a slight pike off the table (-0.1), not hitting the center line/deviation in flight (-0.1), uncontrolled landing (-0.1) and large step (-0.3). There might be other deductions in dynamics and height that I'm not capable of correctly pointing out, and of course there was a penalty of -0.1 for stepping with one foot out of bounds. 14.7 is an acceptable score for that vault, especially because the same criteria seems to have been applied to everybody else.

 

Xiao was so excited after his horizontal bar routine that he forgot to salute to the judges and took a penalty of -0.3 in his final score. It's almost unbelievable that an experienced gymnast would forget about this in his final routine at the Olympics. Seriously, China has to reexamine their coaching staff because they're definitely not doing their job very well.

Who strikes off .3 for a damn salute. What sort of rule is this!