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1 hour ago, phelps said:
@MHSN just watched and they have fixed the mistake in women's +61...
Now Gong Li is 3rd and in green, as it should be...
so, as of today, we have Zaretska, Abbasali, Li and Hocaoglu qualified, with Quirici who could overtake Li if she wins the European Gold (if I'm not wrong)...
unfortunately, by missin the Lisbon event, Semeraro can't be better than 7th, even if she wins the Gold Medal in Porec (and most likely, she's going to end up 8th in any case), so it's going to be almost impossible to earn the European repechage spot (we would need Gong Li to qualify via ranking, so to make Alipour get her repechage place and leave one more spot open at +68 -and of course Plank should lose a few positions by not having a good tournament in Porec)...
by the way, I still hope that this happens, so take a lot of pressure off Semeraro before the final OQT in Paris...
why is this qualification system such a mess?
Plank could miss many position in ranking. She defend silver medal, less than bronze is not enough for her. Semeraro and Plank are 50-50
Real standings:
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1 minute ago, Benolympique said:
it would take a miracle for our french jonathan lobert to qualify in tokyo
Lobert is one of the favourites, problem is only one place and several sailors with chance.
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Ranking update on offical site
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On 26/02/2021 at 16:08, Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo said:
For Italy , certainly Filippo Mondelli (Rowing, Word Championship 2018 and bronze in 2019, 4x)
he is just died. At age 27. All in Italy are crying.
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5 minutes ago, Jan Linha said:
It seems more countries will choose this option. I expect the same from .....
Italy too, it could be a preferred way by IOC.
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On 21/04/2021 at 21:49, MHSN said:
my calculations about women's 49kg
to make things easier for myself I only counted points for athletes who may qualify for the Olympics. I may miss someone so let me know if see someone important missing
1. Hou - 4926
- Ri - 4209 (no)
2. Mirabai - 4133
3. Delacruz - 3640
4. Aisah - 3230
?. Segura - 3121 (no) (COL with 3 doping cases)
?. Sobol - 3031 (NOC is limited to 1)
- Andries - 2955 (ROU with 3 doping cases)
- Vuong - 2908 (VIE with 3 doping cases)
5. Rosa - 2798
6. Michel - 2774
7. Erdogan - 2765 (NOC is limited to 2)
8. Montero - 2713
9. Toua - 2603 (Oceania)
10. Fang - 2596
- Piron - 2562 (no)
11. Braddouck - 2450
12. Ranaivosoa - 2332 (Africa)
13. Cueva - 2321
- Russo - 2254 (no)
14. Jumabayeva - 2244
15. Imperio - 2227
16. Miyake - 2210
important notes:
* China has to pick 4 from 6 weights, they are "almost" guaranteed gold in any of the events they want, so it's just up to them
* Segura of Colombia surprisingly didn't participate in the Pan-Ams, she still can make it by just participating in the last event in her own country
* I didn't check other weights but I just can't believe Russia uses it's only quota in the lowest weight
* Vietnam and Romania are close to get banned from the Olympics. I think Romania has no chance but still a slim chance for Vietnam to survive.
* Toua from PNG can easily make it to top 8 by a good result in her last event and let Oceania qualify another one. but there is nobody else from Oceania in the ranking !!!! I'm a bit lazy to check to see what happens in they have to re-allocate the continental quotas.
* Piron of DOM can easily make it to top 8 by a mediocre result but she didn't even participate in the Pan-Ams, she still can do that in Colombia.
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Can you explain me this? It's very important, tonight my friend make an interview with Imperio..
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2 hours ago, Cobi said:
and take the quotas in Laser. However, I think the Ducth sailor has not met the national standards, so would be the next in line to get the reallocation.
@heywoodu what you can say about this? Thanks
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12 hours ago, thiago_simoes said:
The Apparatus World Cup series has not been finished yet. Only after it is finished, Russia will decide if they will take the quota or not.
However, I'd say they will not take the quota. The quota obtained in the Apparatus World Cup series is nominative; this means that it will remain tied to one specific gymnast, and if this gymnast gets injured, say, the day before the Olympics, then Russia would lose this quota.
However, since Russia qualified a full team at the 2018 World Championships, the rules state that the quota obtained at the European Championships go to the country. The quota obtained at the All-Around World Cup series also goes to the country. So, unless the rules state that they have to accept the quota obtained at the Apparatus World Cup series -- and I don't think the rules state this anywhere -- they are free to choose the quotas for the country obtained at the All-Around World Cup and at the European Championships, and take whoever they want to the Olympic Games.
Update: So, I found the section in the document that mentions this. Apparently, Russia might be obliged to take the quota from the Apparatus World Cup series. However, it's still unclear whether they would lose the right to take the quota from the EC if they refuse the quota from the Apparatur WC series. FIG has the most stupid qualification system I've seen in my life!
Russia can't refuse that quota. Apparently, WC have to end BEFORE european, so Russian can't compete for pass. The same confusion is in shooting, where ranking is AFTER and not BEFORE ECH. All pass for ranking are provisional.
@Makedonas, pass for Petrounas depend from... China. For the same rule, china has one pass in WC AA, and have to choose only another pass in WC apparatus. Now, chinese are first in rings and in pommel horse. If they choosen PH, Petrounas is in. If they choosen rings. Petrounas is out -
1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said:
Even with one rotation to go, it's been decided: the Olympic quotas go to and Adem Asil. I'm very surprised with Turkey getting its fourth quota to the Olympics.
this is Wrong. Quota can go to :RUS, has already 2 quotes from criterias 5 and 6, WC apparatus and WC all around.
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2 hours ago, MHSN said:
with results from the Pan-American Championships , I calculated the possible new ranking for 61kg. I tried to be accurate but if you see a mistake, let me know.
I removed athletes with just 4 events, because they can't reach max 6 with just 1 event left in Colombia
no = didn't participate in the continental champs
1. Li - 4448
?. Irawan - 4162 (no)
-. Qin - 3999 (no) (2nd CHN)
2. Thach - 3765
3. Mosquera - 3762
4. Itokazu - 3534
5. Mishvelidze - 3376
-. Laptseu - 3356 (NOC limited to 1)
6. Grozdev - 3323 (NOC limited to 2)
7. Brandhuber - 3284 (also eligible for 67)
-. Serna - 3046 (no) (2nd COL)
8. Hardel - 3028 (NOC limited to 2)
9. Son - 3014 (NOC limited to 1)
10. Kao - 3001
11. Garcia - 2992
12. Baru - 2976 (Oceania)
-. Mau - 2976 (2nd GER)
13. Al Saleem - 2919
14. Mirzayev - 2848
15. Calderon - 2817
-. Zurita - 2816 (no)
16. Ruiu - 2797
-. Scarantino - 2796 (no) (2nd ITA)
-. Onate - 2725 (no) (2nd CUB)
-. Vazquez - 2702 (no)
17. Brachi - 2678
* Colombia can be banned from the Olympics, since they have 3 doping cases inside the qualification zone but none of them are sanctioned yet so it seems they have a chance to survive. otherwise they wouldn't host a qualification event.
* I'm sure BLR is not going to pick Laptseu, but I'm not sure about BUL, KAZ and TUR, don't know how good they are in other weights. for Kazakhstan it will be between this guy or Bersanov (109kg) I believe Son will go to Tokyo
* Baru from PNG can still make it to top 8 and to help Oceania qualify another weightlifter but interestingly there is nobody else from Oceania in the ranking in this weight !!
* the best athlete from Africa right now is from Madagascar and he can't make it to top 8.
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so considering everything, these guys have a better chance to qualify
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there are so many variables. Germany can drop Brandhuber for Mau who had a better result in the Euro, Colombia can be banned, Indonesia can still qualify by participating in the last event, Bulgaria and Turkey may try different weights, and some weightlifters still can improve their ranking points in the Colombia event. for example TPE is too close to KAZ for the Asian spot. and the Saudi guy was on fire in Asia, he can do that too.
If i understand, destiny for Ruiu depend by German's choice. Correct?
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Any results? As usual, sailing followed so bad...
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38 minutes ago, Benolympique said:
Draw ?
today at 18.00
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For Italy, no doubt for 35-40 medals
The problem for us is number of golds, all here are afraid for a medal table like 5-15-15.
ARCHERY 1
CLIMBING 1
ATHLETICS 2
CANOEING 1
ROWING 4 (1 GOLD)
CYCLING ROAD 2 (1 GOLD)
CYCLING TRACK 4 (1 GOLD)
GYMNASTICS 1
JUDO 2
KARATE 3
WRESTLING 1
SWIMMING 7 (1 GOLD)
WATERPOLO 1
FENCING 4
VOLLEYBALL 1 (1 GOLD)
TAEKWONDO 1
SHOOTING 3 (1 GOLD)
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2 hours ago, intoronto said:
Countries eligible for one of the 24 Tripartie invitations (these have at least one MQS and have not qualified a shooter). Only 15 are eligible, and keeping in mind only max 2 per event. For ex. and only have one MQS in Air rifle men. Will both be given the quotas just based on no other athlete being eligible? The qualification system is not clear enough
Some rules fr TCIP:
- Only one quota for Noc (so, if 15 NOC are elegible, remains 9 quotas);
- Maximum 2 quotas for each individual event (@intoronto, in witch event these coutries have MQS?)
- The reallocation of these unused quota places will be done in the same event as the unused quota. Each unused quota will be reallocated to the NOC that has no Shooting quotas but has the athlete with the highest MQS result in that event.
But are much more than 15; also in skeet, , , , and others.
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58 minutes ago, Benolympique said:
Koumba- Fanta Larroque has any chances of going to tokyo?
More than 50% for me, with Caneva
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10 hours ago, MHSN said:
@phelps Italy has a very big team here, missing only 2-3 weights in total to have a full 17-member team (Chamizo is already qualified) . is this a new policy to invest more in this sport ?
or they just found some money under the carpet while cleaning the place and decided to just send everybody to Budapest
btw I was comparing the total number of wrestlers with the same event in 2016, interestingly we have more wrestlers this year which is surprising considering the pandemic
In Italy, Wrrestling federation is associated with Judo and Karate (strange think!), but not witch taekwondo that is indipendent.
In 2021, this federation use to send many atlhetes in competiotions, in reverse of 2020 and 2019. Why? I don't know..Distribution of money, i think -
Is there any other site for live view, like youtube? The official site is blocked by my antivirus... ;(
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6 minutes ago, prso1000 said:
How does it work? Two finalist qualify or is there repachage for the 2nd spot?
Two finalist qualified.
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1 hour ago, phelps said:
very unexpected Bronze for the Italian duo Elena Berta/Bianca Caruso in the women's event...
they've been quite consistent through the entire week, but they almost threw it away in the medal race...
however, a double penalty for the British crew at the last mark and right on the finish line saved them from being overtaken in the final ranking by the same British duo...
that penalty also saved Spain's Gold medal in a dramatic sprint finish, because if the British women would have put themselves in between NED and ESP (which was going to happen without that last penalty), the Dutch women would have won the Gold medal by a single point...
unfortunately for them, the penalties against the Britons allowed the Spanish boat to end up right behind the Dutch crew in the medal race, which was enough to keep the Spaniards ahead by 1 point in the final overall ranking...
Why unexpected? 4th in last world championship
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9 minutes ago, EupenM said:
Schedule and tip-off times confirmed for Olympic Basketball Tournaments.
http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/men/2020/gameschedule.pdf - Men's
http://www.fiba.basketball/olympics/women/2020/gameschedule.pdf - Women's
@Giovanni Gianni Cattaneo Now it's your work
I'm waiting for complete schedule, with all team qualified
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For Italy , certainly Filippo Mondelli (Rowing, Word Championship 2018 and bronze in 2019, 4x)
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Dirty story... i'm sad for that. In Italy there is a mode to say: "brother knives".