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1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said:

When was/is the official deadline? Will other nations also change their entries in your opinion? Was the chinese guy a medal contender and is there any nation that could profit from it, but didnt enter an athlete in this event so far?

Usually One day before the competition, in general meeting.

yes the Chinese girl was a medal contender, actually the top contender for the gold but now they traded a possible gold with a sure gold medal ! China wants all 4 female gold medals and they will probably win it.

I think only China is capable of such changes, other countries already sent their bests .

1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said:

1) Medal chances for Velagic?

2) Possible to win medals in weightlifting without doping?

3) Are athletes tested while they are banned?

1) if nobody bombs out, Salimi and Talakhadze will challenge for the gold and silver but then we have few athletes fighting for the bronze. Velagic is not among them, his chance is less than 5% in my opinion.

2) Of course, it's just harder  ! much harder

3) Good question, I'm not sure about the answer. I think they have to notify WADA about their whereabouts but WADA probably doesn't test already banned athletes too much. our 94kg weightlifter Sohrab Moradi who is a clear gold medal favorite here had to sit out for 8-9 months more because someone mistakenly registered him as "retired" for IWF. they don't test "retired" weightlifters. and since they didn't test him during his suspension period he had to weight few months to be tested few times to finally be eligible to compete.

Alireza Khojasteh withdrew from the Olympics because of "family reasons" !!! 

PS: this is nonsense, they made him withdraw because there is an Israeli athlete in his weight. the same happened for Javad Mahjoub 4 years ago.  Khojasteh is just 19 and he had no chance but still this is stupid to deny him his right for such reason.

Updated start list

http://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2016/08/Rio2016_List-of-Athletes-by-Event_Updated_01082016.pdf

no Russia and there are few changes, most important China added Meng Suping (instead of their 48kg weightlifter) when they saw Kasherina is gone !

I just read that our athletes are neighbours to Norway and the Philippines 

their weightlifting prediction is a complete joke, it seems they just wrote some names randomly.

59 minutes ago, De_Gambassi said:

You can find the complete list here

 

29 medals for Brazil... that's sweet.

Is this a joke or a real prediction ?

I checked some of my favorite sports predictions and even though some of their wrestling and taekwondo prediction makes sense but in weightlifting, it's a total joke. some of these weightlifters will not even finish in top 10 ! imagine Nagy winning the super heavy weight 

15 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

No wonder they are angry, I think weightlifting is in some serious shit now regarding their Olympic future. Sure, there was always doping in weightlifting, but we are now talking about a big chunk of Olympic medalists being positive.

I understand they are "angry" because Russia brought shame into this sport, this is what they wrote in their statement but to me it's unbelievable they are letting Kazakhstan participate. this is more than obvious that in this country they have organized doping. their midget coach Alexey Ni is indeed involved in this. all of their Olympic gold medalists failed the test. they had so many positive tests in 2015 World Championship, most of their current team members tested positive before, ironically most of them Rahimov, Zaichikov and Ulanov were average athletes before the ban, but right after serving 2 years ban, they came back much much better ! this is obvious what they did during their suspension and IWF is still letting them participate. I can predict in 4 years we are talking about how Kazakh weightlifters failed in Rio 2016 retesting !

IWF sounds very angry about Russia ! yet they do nothing about Kazakhstan

http://www.iwf.net/2016/07/29/iwf-eb-decision-on-russian-participation-at-the-rio-2016-og/

the Executive Board decided to withdraw the appointment of the Russian Technical Official from the Rio2016 Olympic Games.

The integrity of the weightlifting sport has been seriously damaged on multiple times and levels by the Russians, therefore an appropriate sanction was applied in order to preserve the status of the sport.

According to the Reallocation Policy, the Executive Board decided to offer the available Quota place to athletes from the following NOCs:

Women ALB, GEO, MDA
Men BEL, CRO, ESA, MGL, SRB

14 minutes ago, Dolby said:

I think another issue would be regarding nations with huge bench strength. For example, Iran may send 3 different wrestlers in same weight category to World Championships, Asian Championships and World Cup. All 3 wrestlers might perform really well, but still all 3 might be ranked below a wrestler who participates in all 3 events and does only okay. 

That's the problem because we have only 1 major event a year, some countries take continental championships serious, in Asia, most countries don't.

for having a proper ranking, we should have some Grand Prix events, when all top wrestlers come and participate. which is not possible at the moment for the reason I already explained, they cut weight a lot. the only solution is having the weight-in 1-2 hours before the competition forcing them to not cut weight. at the moment when for example you watch a 65kg match, both wrestlers are actually 71-72 kilos at least ! because they had the weight-in one day before the competition.

6 minutes ago, MantaRaymarc said:

Where did you find these entries?

here

https://unitedworldwrestling.org/event/olympic-games

click on Results and Videos and then Participants for each weight

8 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

that's terrible......2 big favourites can basicly fight in first round

of course it happens always in wrestling, 4 years ago in London we had unbelievably unbalanced draw at 66 and 85 freestyle which helped some wrestlers winning undeserved medals.

actually this is the first time they are using some kind of seeding system. that's good for the start

but if they want to have a proper ranking like Judo and Taekwondo they have to make top wrestlers to compete in more than 1-2 events per year which is not possible at the moment since everybody cuts a lot of weight. (at least 6-7 kilos) that will be revolutionary change in wrestling . Lalovic once said he is thinking about such an idea to force wrestlers to not cut weight.

41 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I didn't know they were allowed to do that at the Olympics..it's like a reserve so that they can still choose who'll actually fight?

well I didn't know too, maybe their main guy is already injured and they registered another one in case.

49 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

Here are GR world rankings https://unitedworldwrestling.org/article/vlasov-seven-of-eight-world-champs-top-pre-olympic-greco-roman-rankings

 

@MHSN, what it can tell us about the draw?

Nothing, wrestling world ranking is a joke, someone just sits and determines this ranking , there is no criteria about it.

there will be no seeding in wrestling only 2015 world finalists will be separated and will have a bye in 1st round. they wll use blind draw for the rest.

UWW website has the name of all registered wrestlers , there are some interesting changes comparing to what we had/expected

57kg:

Yang Kyong-il instead of Jong for PRK !!! Yang was retired as far as I knew but apparently he is back !

Kazakhstan also registered a new name Nurislam SANAYEV instead of Sanaa. but after a bit of research apparently he is the same person just with a new name ! lol after all he is originally from Russia

USA is sending Daniel Dennis who won their trials over Ramos, Haji Aliyev is also there as expected

65kg

only Iran and Turkey are changing their wrestlers, we already knew that, Mustafa Kaya in place of Yakup Gor and Meisam Nassiri instead of our injured gold medal hope Ahmad Mohammadi

74kg

no change at all but India has to change Yadav because of doping.

oops, I forgot we changed our wrestler here, Yazdani junior in place of Ghasemi.

86kg

the only change is Sharifov in place of Khatiyev but we already knew that !

97kg

Iran, Russia and Ukraine are sending new wrestlers but again we knew that

125kg

no change, the only question was about Ukraine, and they decided to send Zaseyev over Khotsianovski, both of those guys won the quota if you remember !

59kg:

wow ! Korea is sending a new name Lee Jung-baik ! what happened to that Kim guy who threw everybody at the worlds qualifiers ?!!!

Russia is also sending Maryanyan and not Labazanov despite all news we heard. Mingiyan Semenov (but with his twin brother's name) won the quota for Russia

66kg

only Russia had a change here, Albiev instead of Surkov, we knew that

75kg

no change

85kg

Chakvetadze instead of Mishin as expected but Egypt also registered a new name apparently, even though I'm not sure . Arabic names are confusing sometimes.

98kg

interestingly Belarus registered two names here, Hrabovik and Dzienichenka !

and Hungary also registered the veteran Balasz Kiss instead of Varga who won the quota.

130kg

few expected changes, Brazil is using their naturalized Armenian guy instead of poor Jaoude. Iran and Russia made a change here, Semenov and Babajanzadeh.

It seems they are going to take Lebedov's quota and give it to Belarus !

https://unitedworldwrestling.org/article/wrestlings-special-commission-completes-review-of-russian-wrestlers-sends-recommendations

Mr. Lebedev’s qualification spot has been replaced by the nation of the next best-ranked wrestler from his qualification tournament (2015 World Championships). That nation is Belarus (BLR).

So we already have 31 positive in weightlifting, 21 in London, 10 in Beijing. 31 from 28 athletes as Zairov, Ilyin and Khurshudyan tested positive twice in both olympics !

here is the numbers

Armenia 3 (from 2 athletes)

Azerbaijan 4 (from 3 athletes)

Belarus 4

Georgia 1

Kazakhstan 6 (from 5 athletes)

Moldova 2

Russia 7

Turkey 3

Ukraine 1

if IWF still wants to ban countries with 3 positives tests, they have to ban Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Turkey and maybe Armenia. I don't mention Azerbaijan as they are already banned.

and there are more rumors about Kazakh weightlifters like Sedov and Grabotskaya That will be a crime if they let Kazakhstan participate, if you take a look, out of 5 male weightlifters they are sending to Rio, 4 of them had been banned before ! Kharki, Ulanov, Zaichikov and Rahimov.

After

On 7/27/2016 at 01:11, bestmen said:

Georgian uniform WAS

 

Olympic opening ceremony outfits likened to erasers 

 

 

lol this is not for Georgia but Iran !! lol and the whole nation made joke about it, they came up with some new ideas but finally this is the final result ! I like the previous proposal more, the one in back some user posted it yesterday more

2 hours ago, dareza said:

Hello, it seems that MOJALLALIMOGHADAM will be in Rio.  any news in Iran about that?

there were news/rumors about him for few days, I just didn't take them serious happy for Adel, he deserved it.

An Iranian website made an interesting research about where all these 63 athletes came from, here is the outcome

there are 62 names in this list because Leila Rajabi is originally from Belarus and didn't raise in Iran, but if she had to be counted, she is competing from the province of "Bushehr"

this is very interesting that Mazandaran has more numbers than the capital Tehran !!

there are 19 provinces in this list, surprisingly nobody from Kurdistan, Ardabil or Gilan !

Mazandaran (12)

Table Tennis 2 - Nima Alamian, Noshad Alamian

Taekwondo 1 - Farzan Ashourzadeh

Volleyball 2 - Adel Gholami, Mojtaba Mirzajanpour

Weightlifting 2 - Mohammad Reza Barari, Behdad Salimi

Wrestling 5 - Hassan Yazdani, Reza Yazdani, Komeil Ghasemi, Ghasem Rezaei, Bashir Babajanzadeh

Tehran (11)

Athletics 1 - Ehsan Haddadi

Boxing 1 - Ehsan Rouzbahani

Fencing 2 - Ali Pakdaman, Mojtaba Abedini

Judo 1 - Saeid Mollaei

Shooting 1 - Elaheh Ahmadi

Taekwondo 1 - Mehdi Khodabakhshi

Volleyball 2 - Hamzeh Zarini, Mehdi Mahdavi

Wrestling 2 - Hassan Rahimi, Hamid Sourian

Isfahan (5)

Athletics 1 - Reza Ghasemi

Shooting 1 - Golnoush Sebghatollahi

Taekwondo 1 - Sajjad Mardani

Volleyball 1 - Amir Ghafour

Wrestling 1 - Sohrab Moradi

Alborz (4)

Judo 1 - Alireza Khojasteh

Taekwondo 1 - Kimia Alizadeh

Volleyball 1 - Shahram Mahmoudi

Wrestling 1 - Alireza Karimi

Khuzestan (4)

Volleyball 2 - Saeid Abdevali, Habibollah Akhlaghi

Wrestling 2 - Mohammad Mousavi, Mostafa Sharifat

Chaharmahal & Bakhtiari (3)

Athletics 3 - Mahmoud Samimi, Mohammad Arzandeh, Mohammad Jafar Moradi

East Azarbaijan (3)

Athletics 1 - Kaveh Mousavi

Cycling 2 - Ghader Mizbani, Samad Pourseyedi

Razavi Khorasan (3)

Athletics 1 - Hassan Taftian

Judo 1 - Javad Mahjoub

Swimming 1 - Aria Nasimi-Shad

Golestan (2)

Athletics 1 - Pejman Ghalehnoei

Volleyball 1 - Farhad Ghaemi

Hamedan (2)

Athletics 1 - Hamid Reza Zouravand

Shooting 1 - Mahlagha Jambozorg

Ilam (2)

Shooting 1 - Pouria Norouzian

Weightlifting 1 - Ali Hashemi

Kermanshah (2)

Table Tennis 1 - Neda Shahsavari

Weightlifting 1 - Kianoush Rostami

West Azarbaijan (2)

Volleyball 2 - Saeid Marouf, Milad Ebadipour

Zanjan (2)

Rowing 1 - Mahsa Javar

Wrestling 1 - Meisam Nassiri

Fars (1)

Wrestling 1 - Omid Norouzi

Kerman (1)

Archery 1 - Zahra Nemati

Lorestan (1)

Cycling 1 - Arvin Moazzami-Goudarzi

North Khorasan (1)

Shooting 1 - Najmeh Khedmati

Qazvin (1)

Volleyball 1 - Mehdi Marandi

Russia Greco-Roman team

59 Ibragim Labazanov

66 Islambek Albiev

75 Roman Vlasov

85 Davit Chakvetadze

98 Islam Magomedov

130 Sergey Semenov

47 minutes ago, Quasit said:

 

You're always forgetting about women's events.

no I don't , but simply I only speak about things I have information about, I'm not an expert in women's weightlifting, I follow it but not as much as I follow men's weightlifting.

2 minutes ago, DaniSRB said:

this could have been first ever medal for Turkmenistan

yeah indeed. that's a shame

32 minutes ago, intoronto said:

 

Now that the entry lists are out, who are the favourites for the medals?

hard to answer since the list is not even final, we stilll don't know if Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan can compete or not

56kg:

Long (CHN) and Om (PRK) for the gold and silver, then bronze probably for Thach (VIE) or Colonia or Chontey

62kg:

Gold for China, both Colombian weightlifters and Irawan (INA) and probably Kharki (KAZ) will try for other medals

69kg:

will be a close competition between Shi (CHN), Ismaylov (TUR), Chen (RUS) and Kim (PRK)

77kg:

Gold will be between Lu and Rahimov. . I think Ihab (EGY) and the Armenian guy will try for bronze, or even a better medal if one of those 2 fail

85kg:

Rostami (IRN) and Tian (CHN) will battle for the gold, if RUS/KAZ can compete. then Okulov and Ulanov are also there with those 2

94kg:

Moradi is the clear foavrite here, with Stralotsov behind him (if Belarus competes) Zielinkski, Maligov and Didzbalis are after them.

105kg:

Zaichikov, Nurudinov and Bedzhanyna will fight for 3 medals, if RUS and KAZ are banned, then others can compete for other medals, Yang of CHN is behind them with Armenian, Barari and Plesnieks.

+105kg:

Talakhadze is the favorite for the gold, if Albegov competes he can challenge the Georgian, otherwise only Salimi can maybe challenge him. we still don't know about Salimi's shape as they put everybody in dark but at very least he will win the bronze here.

I think IWF did nothing wrong here (only this time !) the Iranian federation probably registered Molaei as the 5th weightlifter but for public, they had a meeting yesterday and their technical committee voted for 3 weightlifters to pick 2 of them . surprisingly they dropped Molaei and they prbably wanted to make a change to their original list.

this sad accident happened last night, after dropping him from the Olympic squad. he was driving the car with his whole family in it , that wasn't a good idea for someone in his situation. only his grandfather died in this accident, the rest including himself survived. terrible terrible news, he is such a good boy comparing to our other weightlifters.