[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[vinipereira 3,460]

Lula is officially announced as the winner.

 

Spoiler

Given how small the difference was (apr. 2mi votes, less than 2%), I think Bolso might ask for a recount.

 

[LuizGuilherme 333]

59 minutes ago, vinipereira said:

@LuizGuilherme starting to think that Bolso will win in Minas and you will stop the perfect record of predicting the winner

Well, at the end Lula won in Minas hehe

[heywoodu 16,004]

2 hours ago, Grassmarket said:

Ah yes, those magical last minute electronic vote swings from the always-last-to-declare leftist strongholds. They’re becoming quite the global phenomenon.  

Ah yes, those magical super starts for the rightist populists, as if they're an F1 driver who started a minute before the lights went out. They're becoming quite the global phenomenon. 

[heywoodu 16,004]

1 hour ago, thiago_simoes said:

I'm in tears. The worst president I have witnessed in my life will finally be booted out of office. The race should not have been this close, but I am just relieved we will not have to stomach this despicable human being as our president for 4 more years.

This is fantastic. For me, I can sort of understand people who vote for Bolsonaro because they are strongly against Lula, or because they have their economic reasons or something. No way I would, but reasons like that I can kind of understand. 

 

What I seriously can't understand though is people who vote for him because of ethical reasons, or his non-existent morals. I don't know enough to make a judgment on his economic agenda and stuff like that, but people who vote for him because of his morals and such? No thanks, I can't really think of a more despicable human being among significant politicians.

[heywoodu 16,004]

Too bad Tarcisio won the governor race in SP, both because he seems like an asshole (but granted, Haddad has the charisma of a used wet wipe), and because it gives Team Bolsonaro something to celebrate here

 

[vinipereira 3,460]

2 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

What I seriously can't understand though is people who vote for him because of ethical reasons, or his non-existent morals. I don't know enough to make a judgment on his economic agenda and stuff like that, but people who vote for him because of his morals and such? No thanks, I can't really think of a more despicable human being among significant politicians.

I would say most of his supporters don't really care about the economy, education, public health and such, but only his morals, since he is "pro-family" and has "christian values". A simple google search shows that he's not such things, but nothing he does will be able to convince his supporters otherwise. It's staggering that 58mi people voted for him, but I'm relieved that this nightmare had ended (for now...)

[vinipereira 3,460]

8 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Too bad Tarcisio won the governor race in SP, both because he seems like an asshole (but granted, Haddad has the charisma of a used wet wipe), and because it gives Team Bolsonaro something to celebrate here

 

Bolsonaro allies have a lot to celebrate (biggest party in the chamber of deputies, about half of the state governors elected), it won't be an easy term for Lula.

[heywoodu 16,004]

5 minutes ago, vinipereira said:

I would say most of his supporters don't really care about the economy, education, public health and such, but only his morals, since he is "pro-family" and has "christian values". A simple google search shows that he's not such things, but nothing he does will be able to convince his supporters otherwise. It's staggering that 58mi people voted for him, but I'm relieved that this nightmare had ended (for now...)

Yeah, even if I was Christian, I wouldn't vote for this shit stain. I'm happy that most of the Christian Brazilians I know don't vote for this guy and are rather...disgusted by him using their faith for his gain 

 

Oddly enough, one of my very few really close friends does vote for him. It's odd, because this person is genuinely a great human being who one would absolutely not associate with the awful values of a Bolsonaro, I was rather shocked to hear of their political preference. Comes to show that not every single person who votes for someone one doesn't like, is immediately a bad person...although it does give mixed feelings. 

[vinipereira 3,460]

16 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Comes to show that not every single person who votes for someone one doesn't like, is immediately a bad person...although it does give mixed feelings. 

Not at all, I would say that although many of his followers are "extremists", I would like to believe there are also good people in the mix. But evangelicals in Brazil (about 80% votes for him) can't see anything past religion, which is sad.

[vinipereira 3,460]

As a fun fact, Bolso was heavily supported by Neymar in this election, who did multiple posts in social media and even appeared in a live feed of the president. Now people are joking that Neymar will never win something important (Ballon d'or, World Cup title, or the election).