Athletics WA World Championships 2023

[OlympicsFan 860]

3 hours ago, phelps said:

  

Sadly the truth, i wish it wasn't. After what happened with GDR anyone who is remotely connected to anything doping-related gets bullied by the public. German coaches went to countries like China or GB to avoid this nonsense. Please name the countries that have a more strict anti-doping law and a better funded NADA. I am sure an expert like you, who felt confident laughing about my statement, can easily provide the information. I am sure that this isn't just another case where you are hyper biased (Alex Schwazer/anything related with italian sports).

[AsensioWillemsen 174]

5 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

What is it with athletes in the 400 m, that never attempt to run both individual events? Shorter sprinters do the double, middle distance runners do the 800/1500, long distance runners to the 5000/10000, or 10000 and the marathon in some cases.

 

Warholm and Bol are generational talents, who could very well run them both. Especially since the heats are basically a training run for them. Granted the organizers will have to help with not scheduling both events in the same days.. And don't say it's a hard endurance race of.... 50 seconds, where if you run once in 2 days you are spent for the rest of the week. There are harder demanding sports, than the 400 m, like cross-country and biathlon where athletes are competing 3 consecutive days. 

 

Yes, you need technique for the hurdles, which makes the option very limited to pure flat sprinters. But the hurdle specialists like Warholm and Bol souldn't have issues attempting both events, especially when they have top results in both of them.

Schedule doesn't help here. But it surely should be possible.

[Josh 11,528]

53.39 for  Femke Bol in H4 of the women's 400m hurdles.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Josh

[dcro 10,210]

Is athlete running with a massive tumor on her neck?

[AsensioWillemsen 174]

3 hours ago, heywoodu said:

I love how everyone from every country always feels like their country is performing badly. Which is just impossible, because if every country performs badly, we're going to be left with medals that aren't won by anyone  

I'm pretty sure  underperformed a bit the first day though. Dunno why, but just have that feeling in my stomach.

[Dennis 759]

5 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

What is it with athletes in the 400 m, that never attempt to run both individual events? Shorter sprinters do the double, middle distance runners do the 800/1500, long distance runners to the 5000/10000, or 10000 and the marathon in some cases.

 

Warholm and Bol are generational talents, who could very well run them both. Especially since the heats are basically a training run for them. Granted the organizers will have to help with not scheduling both events in the same days.. And don't say it's a hard endurance race of.... 50 seconds, where if you run once in 2 days you are spent for the rest of the week. There are harder demanding sports, than the 400 m, like cross-country and biathlon where athletes are competing 3 consecutive days. 

 

Yes, you need technique for the hurdles, which makes the option very limited to pure flat sprinters. But the hurdle specialists like Warholm and Bol souldn't have issues attempting both events, especially when they have top results in both of them.

Bol won the triple last year at the European Championships (400mh, 400m and 4x400m), so she has tried it and was successful. However, here on top of the 400mh, she also has the 4x400m and the 4x400m mixed in her program, so that’s already 7 races in one week.
 

Add another potential 3 races in the 400m flat and she would have to run 10 times, which is possible, but I doubt anyone can maintain a high level for so many races. 

[OlympicsFan 860]

3 hours ago, lapaj said:

1: Rheinmetall built a factory in Hungary this year and another one is under constructon (military).

How much money goes back to Germany through your company!

No, the Hungarians are not happy with the underfunded education or healthcare!

2: Which is a big loss to the host countries!

3: Agree! And the tax payers have every right to know how much money is spent to the migrants! How many of them are able to work? 

4: Do you have source? Because in Hungary we have two opinions about this: Hungary gets nothing or Hungary gets much more than the other ex-eastern countries.

And please check this:

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=558089#Key_product_groups_imported_by_the_EU_from_Russia

5: could you show me an alternative gas source to Hungary? Because we have two pipes: one from Ukraine and one from Serbia. And these pipes supply Slovakia and partly Chechia!

And Hungary have two oil pipes: one from Ukraine and one from Croatia! Both countries rised brutally the transit fee! In the name of Solidarity!

1 & 2) Not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you saying that Rheinmetall creating jobs in Hungary is a loss for Hungary (or for Germany)?

Rheinmetall is profiting (better margin) and Hungary as well (more jobs), the german public not so much (less jobs).

3) Not sure about the point you are trying to make. I am perfectly fine with Hungary not taking in any migrants. While you are at it you should just stop them from traveling through your country to other EU countries. I guess Putin wouldn't be happy about that, so not sure how realistic that is.

4) https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/

5) I guess you could do what basically all other countries that used to be dependant on russian gas did ...

I don't blame Hungary for doing this (Germany for example made the same "mistake"), but obviously Hungary remaining dependant on russian gas (and therefore making it easy for Puting to "blackmail" them) isn't in the best interest of other EU countries. Maybe they raised the transit fee to force you to go away from russian gas, who knows ...

[Grassmarket 4,031]

17 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

What is it with athletes in the 400 m, that never attempt to run both individual events? Shorter sprinters do the double, middle distance runners do the 800/1500, long distance runners to the 5000/10000, or 10000 and the marathon in some cases.

 

Warholm and Bol are generational talents, who could very well run them both. Especially since the heats are basically a training run for them. Granted the organizers will have to help with not scheduling both events in the same days.. And don't say it's a hard endurance race of.... 50 seconds, where if you run once in 2 days you are spent for the rest of the week. There are harder demanding sports, than the 400 m, like cross-country and biathlon where athletes are competing 3 consecutive days. 

 

Yes, you need technique for the hurdles, which makes the option very limited to pure flat sprinters. But the hurdle specialists like Warholm and Bol souldn't have issues attempting both events, especially when they have top results in both of them.

It’s tough though. US & West Indies have bottomless reserves of 400m runners.

[OlympicsFan 860]

5 hours ago, Monzanator said:

@OlympicsFanWell, let's see if Mihambo injury woes continue into 2024. USA doesn't have a Reese type jumper either. Vuleta isn't blind, the overall level of LJ has dropped compared to the 2010s. Germany still have some push in the javelin but the track events have completely folded. Nothing in 400/800 or hurdles. Compared to the early 1990s when I started watching athletics Germany has regressed the most out of European countries (followed by France). Meanwhile countries like Netherlands and Italy are maximizing their chances and winning more medals than expected.

Difficult to lead a discussion when you can't even quote (i don't get a message that you quoted me and therefore might not reply, which surely wasn't your goal).

Track events were never really "a thing" in western/unified Germany. I think the last global champions were Baumann (caught doping) and Schumann (some rumors as well). If Germany would have continued to use the GDR doping knowledge, they would now be much more competitive. Instead german coaches went to countries like GB or China to continue their dop... training. Actually Germany hasn't been as good in the 400 m hurdles as they are today (although 2 of their 3 best guys are injured right now), but you are right about the other events. Italy also had a big downturn (same as Spain) after they were pretty good in running in the 1990s/2000s. Then those countries had some doping trouble (in running/cycling), which lead to them "laying low" for a while (and some of their officials going to african countries for example), but now they seem to be back. I think the situation in finish cross-country skiing is comparable. The Netherlands and GB didn't have that "burden", so they had less reservations using performance enhancing drugs. GB used to be insanely bad in sports until 2000 or so, but then they completely exploded and even all the stories around team Sky, Dwain Chambers Paula Radcliffe didn't really hurt them.

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A. Juck: "fun fact, Rasmus Mägi run his SB this year at the National Estonian Championship, where he was running alone and still set this great clock"