MHSN 3,651 Posted June 19, 2019 #591 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I can't see in the PDF file how they are going to determine 5th/6th places or 3rd place. will we have box-off between losers ? or they use the stupid format of you are 5th if you lose to the eventual champion in QF ?! Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edvid 22 Posted June 19, 2019 #592 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Yes to both, if it follows the procedure used in Rio 2016 qualifiers (box-off for the third of 3 berths*; final ranking for the fifth / sixth of 5 or 6 berths (in this case QF losses to the champ / runner-up)). The ranking method also applies to any berths not taken up by a qualifying NOC and passed on to another. [* EDIT - Except the 2015 men's WCh also used the ranking method in this scenario, I think.] Edited June 19, 2019 by Edvid Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,559 Posted June 19, 2019 #593 Share Posted June 19, 2019 That was when AIBA was in charge, maybe the IOC will force 5th place matches. Personally I think that's more fair... Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edvid 22 Posted June 19, 2019 #594 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Thinking specifically of 5-berth divisions - would that in effect mean two lower classification semi-finals and a final for the quarter-final losers? That potentially means you fight one match more than an Olympic bronze medallist, assuming equal levels of participation. In that scenario - you wouldn't want to be an Americas lightweight boxer that makes a LC final in their continental qualifier, loses (and a Japanese boxer in their division qualifies, releasing the host berth to another NOC), then reaches a LC final in the world qualifier and loses again. Or would it just be a box-off between the two that lost their quarterfinals to the champ / runner-up? Certainly w.r.t. the first scenario, I don't believe it would make sense unless you also make the semi-finalists proper fight for bronze in the Olympics et al. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shravan Kumar 109 Posted June 20, 2019 #595 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 10:31 PM, MHSN said: I can't see in the PDF file how they are going to determine 5th/6th places or 3rd place. will we have box-off between losers ? or they use the stupid format of you are 5th if you lose to the eventual champion in QF ?! Expand You can't see that in the PDF because it has not been decided. We might get a picture in the meeting next week. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shravan Kumar 109 Posted June 20, 2019 #596 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 9:21 PM, dcro said: Why are the lower weights given more quotas? It literally doesn't make any sense to give -52 division more quotas than say -75. Expand According to the IOC it is because of physical damage and universality. They argue that the fighters in heavier weight classes have to endure more physical damage so they try to reduce the no of matches. Another point is they say lower weight classes have more fighters universally. Not my opinion this is what the IOC said in press briefing. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddhartha Talukdar 234 Posted June 20, 2019 #597 Share Posted June 20, 2019 What shall be scoring system in boxing and from where shall the judges coming from Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shravan Kumar 109 Posted June 20, 2019 #598 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 5:13 AM, Siddhartha Talukdar said: What shall be scoring system in boxing and from where shall the judges coming from Expand Scoring system will be same. IOC doesn't want to make any radical change as there is only some months for qualification tournament. The judges will most certainly be the same people who are from AIBA as told by sports director of IOC vlad and heywoodu 2 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zob79 189 Posted June 20, 2019 #599 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 5:13 AM, Siddhartha Talukdar said: What shall be scoring system in boxing and from where shall the judges coming from Expand Scoring system is sudden death; judges will come from all planets of our solar system If the lights light up exactly at the correct moment, he was definitely first, since his light went on first. Not sure if those lights are 100% accurate though? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,651 Posted June 20, 2019 #600 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 6:17 AM, Shravan Kumar said: Scoring system will be same. IOC doesn't want to make any radical change as there is only some months for qualification tournament. The judges will most certainly be the same people who are from AIBA as told by sports director of IOC Expand then It will be the same shit. just somebody else will collect the money this time. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/188-summer-olympic-games-2020-qualification-systems/page/60/#findComment-215517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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