Federer91 2,903 Posted June 3, 2016 #231 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Still waiting for the chinese. Especially in 08, when they were gone as fast, as they came. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,428 Posted June 3, 2016 #232 Share Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/3/2016 at 7:08 PM, heywoodu said: In the end, almost all sports are partly decided by that. Take football: sure, tactics and styles are important, but use doping and you'll be able to keep running longer and longer and more importantly, you'll be able to use your supreme techniques longer. I've seen plenty of matches with teams like Barcelona, Valencia or Juventus where they just kept going and going and going as if they'd never be tired...honestly I think football has the most doping of every sport, simply because it's by far the most "financial sport" and the interests are so incredibly huge there. No way FIFA will ever implement a decent anti-doping regulation and they will never get anywhere near IAAF, UCI, FINA (they might not be good, or even be bad, but at least they test). Expand I think there's a lot of truth in what you say, and it is probably like you say but... still, 0 footballers tested positive in Beijing and London. In fact, 0 team sport athletes tested positive in both games. Doesn't mean of course that they don't dope in the 3 years and 11 months in middle, but give me that and not the joke we see in weightlifting. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,353 Posted June 3, 2016 Author #233 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I guess in football they have a lot more money and expertise to develop stuff that can't be detected . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,353 Posted June 3, 2016 Author #234 Share Posted June 3, 2016 Meanwhile the head doctor of the Dutch Olympic team is a guy who thought that the famous doping doctors Conconi and Ferrari were a good idea to follow and who has worked with a whole lot of shady figures At least it looks like the shadowy part of the Dutch sports is finally catching up with the other countries as well . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 1,225 Posted June 3, 2016 #235 Share Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/3/2016 at 7:08 PM, heywoodu said: No way FIFA will ever implement a decent anti-doping regulation and they will never get anywhere near IAAF, UCI, FINA (they might not be good, or even be bad, but at least they test). Expand The César Cielo case alone should be enough to put FINA on the joke tier alongside FIFA and ATP/WTA Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,353 Posted June 3, 2016 Author #236 Share Posted June 3, 2016 On 6/3/2016 at 8:24 PM, De_Gambassi said: The César Cielo case alone should be enough to put FINA on the joke tier alongside FIFA and ATP/WTA Expand I know they're bad, but I still think they're better and more serious than FIFA . Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 1,225 Posted June 3, 2016 #237 Share Posted June 3, 2016 (edited) On 6/3/2016 at 8:25 PM, heywoodu said: I know they're bad, but I still think they're better and more serious than FIFA Expand As you said ealier : Citation I guess in football they have a lot more money and expertise to develop stuff that can't be detected Expand That's really the only difference betwwen the two sports. I suppose that FINA would love that top end swimmers had access to the same kind of high tech - undetectable - drugs. Then , they could simply pretend to fight againtst doping by catching some random mid tier swimmers once every blue moon. Edited June 3, 2016 by De_Gambassi Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-19582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanbg 166 Posted June 4, 2016 #238 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Three samples of Azeri weightlifters from the London games tested positive for banned substances during the recent retesting reports http://hurriyyet.az./6119-avropa-ve-dunya-chempionunu-azerbaycandan-qovurlar-novbeti-qurban-ozel.html. It is rumored that the three offenders are Boyanka Kostova, Valentin Hristov (already with a life ban) and Ilhan Zairov. Moreover, one more lifter tested positive from the Beijing samples retesting, Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-20419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,903 Posted June 4, 2016 #239 Share Posted June 4, 2016 They deserve everything that will come. Traitors.... Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-20438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,898 Posted June 4, 2016 #240 Share Posted June 4, 2016 On 6/4/2016 at 4:22 PM, Federer91 said: They deserve everything that will come. Traitors.... Expand Be very worried that two of the Russians have come back negative on the B sample of their retests. If it happens to two samples it might be happen to many more Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/116-doping-cases-and-bans-thread-2016-2017/page/24/#findComment-20469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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