hckošice 13,704 Posted August 5, 2018 #231 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Men´s 4x200m Freestyle 1. Great Britain (Jarvis/Scott/Dean/Guy) 7:05.32 2. Russia (Vekovishchev/Malyutin/Izotov/Dovgalyuk) 7:06.66 3. Italy (Proietti Colonna/Megli/Ciampi/Zuin) 7:07.58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rybak 2,891 Posted August 5, 2018 #232 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Ugh, we are so unlucky today, next 4th place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agger 1,611 Posted August 6, 2018 #233 Share Posted August 6, 2018 What a swim by young Thea Blomsterberg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 10,196 Posted August 6, 2018 #234 Share Posted August 6, 2018 New semifinal for Blašković. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 791 Posted August 6, 2018 #235 Share Posted August 6, 2018 vor 15 Stunden schrieb phelps: I've always known that...but still, there's a math formula to compare performances in the individual events and in the internal fractions of a relay... of course every day is different and "normal" athletes just can't clock the same exact time everytime they jump into the water... today the really important thing for Miressi and the whole Italian team was trying to understand how he could cope with the big pressure our media put on him...well, he responded better than the most optimistic preview and won with some margin the gold medal (and also set his new PB, which is always great in such kind of event...the fact that overall his leg in the previous days' relay was slightly better is just marginal, just a small detail to keep in mind for the future...but nothing so important for today)... by the way, the most beautiful surprises come at the end of the day...Burdisso and the men's 4*200 free relay did really make something nobody believed it was possible until a couple of hours ago... and Burdisso's young age and the fact that we were missing Detti (and in the next future also Miressi, who could become a really strong 200m free specialist...he already has a 1.43 in short course from almost a year ago) could be seen as really encouraging in perspective in both these events... Burdisso has the potential to make the final in Tokyo, so thats something new for Italy in this event. Miressi could swim 1:47 flat start in the next couple of years, but i dont think that that would help the italian relay much. With Detti back its a solid relay with a realistic chance of finishing 6th in Tokyo. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,151 Posted August 6, 2018 #236 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Pretty bad championships for Kotryna Teterevkova, I guess she completely peaked at the junior championships and it's only going to be downhill for this season, cause she's already spent. Also, this morning was the first individual start for our biggest gold medal hope - Danas Rapšys and he looked pretty decent, although he'll need to bring his A-game, cause it will definitely not be an easy swim. Lastly, Meilutytė and Šidlauskas are performing better than expected, so good on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,825 Posted August 6, 2018 #237 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Werloc said: Also, this morning was the first individual start for our biggest gold medal hope - Danas Rapšys and he looked pretty decent, although he'll need to bring his A-game, cause it will definitely not be an easy swim. Dutch commentator was basically accusing Rapsys and the people around him of cheating this morning, because of his time that was even faster than the world record. "That's just not possible, I don't believe that." Spoiler Then co-commentator Inge Dekker told him: "Hey, aren't you accidentally looking at the short course lists?" (which was indeed the case) dcro 1 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werloc 3,151 Posted August 6, 2018 #238 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Dutch commentator was basically accusing Rapsys and the people around him of cheating this morning, because of his time that was even faster than the world record. "That's just not possible, I don't believe that." Hide contents Then co-commentator Inge Dekker told him: "Hey, aren't you accidentally looking at the short course lists?" (which was indeed the case) Welp, wouldn't want to be that guy today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,439 Posted August 6, 2018 #239 Share Posted August 6, 2018 50 minuti fa, OlympicsFan ha scritto: Burdisso has the potential to make the final in Tokyo, so thats something new for Italy in this event. Miressi could swim 1:47 flat start in the next couple of years, but i dont think that that would help the italian relay much. With Detti back its a solid relay with a realistic chance of finishing 6th in Tokyo. Miressi has already a 1.48.5 from 3 years ago (when he was just at the beginning of his junior period)... I do really think he has the potential to become the man to beat in this distance (his body is made for that...he's 2.02 tall, with long arms and his muscles has yet to be developed...probably, if he works on that, he has more chances to win the Olympic Gold in the 200m than in the 100m free...the main problem is that he seems to be a new Mgnini-kind of guy...he only wants to swim and excel in the 100m, which possibly would lead him to swim just a few relay fractions in the 4*200 in the furure, but without a specific training for that distance)... of course I hope that someone among our coaching staff will eventually push him to explore his full potential also outside "his home garden", but I'm not fully convinced it will happen...at least in a short while... I agree on Burdisso...he's probably the first Italian guy with a chance to excel in the senior 200m Fly...I don't know why? but we've always been so bad at this discipline in the senior ranks (among the juniors we've had some european and world medals in the past)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 791 Posted August 6, 2018 #240 Share Posted August 6, 2018 vor einer Stunde schrieb phelps: Miressi has already a 1.48.5 from 3 years ago (when he was just at the beginning of his junior period)... I do really think he has the potential to become the man to beat in this distance (his body is made for that...he's 2.02 tall, with long arms and his muscles has yet to be developed...probably, if he works on that, he has more chances to win the Olympic Gold in the 200m than in the 100m free...the main problem is that he seems to be a new Mgnini-kind of guy...he only wants to swim and excel in the 100m, which possibly would lead him to swim just a few relay fractions in the 4*200 in the furure, but without a specific training for that distance)... of course I hope that someone among our coaching staff will eventually push him to explore his full potential also outside "his home garden", but I'm not fully convinced it will happen...at least in a short while... I agree on Burdisso...he's probably the first Italian guy with a chance to excel in the senior 200m Fly...I don't know why? but we've always been so bad at this discipline in the senior ranks (among the juniors we've had some european and world medals in the past)... In the end noone seems to be able to be a medal winner in both 100 and 200 free, i dont see a chance that it will be different with Miressi (but i know how you view italian athletes in general, so we probably wont agree on this). I think that he has to decide for one distance and it would be stupid to pick the 200 free since he is alreay world-class in the 100 free. I also dont see how exactly he would be more suited for this event than someone like Townley Haas for example who is about the same height and won a world silver medal last year being only 1 year older than Miressi is now (Duncan Scott was 4th at the world championships last year at the same age Miressi is now). But who knows, given the level in mens 200 free right now, 1:45.5 might be enough for a medal, who knows whether Miressi can swim that fast or not. Mens 200 fly is a young mens event nowadays with Phelps and Cseh (probably) gone. Burdisso is probably among the 5-6 most talented guys in this event alongside Kenderesi (if you can still consider him a talent), Milak, Horomura, Zhuhao and Urlando. I think we can assume that Le Clos will still be around in 2 years. If we consider Kenderesi, Milak, Horomura and Le Clos locks for the final (Zhuhao seems to have problems and Urlando is too young to tell), then 4 spots are still available. Personally i would favor an american guy and a second japanese guy for 2 of the remaining spots. Burdisso has as good a chance as anybody else to win one of those 2 spots and sub 1:55, a time he should absolutely be able to swim in the near future, should definitely be enough for that. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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