MHSN 3,221 Posted April 21, 2021 #171 Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Laraja said: The name of this athlete from colombia is very funny for us haha. Segura means safe in portuguese. So she is segura to qualify, but not in fact because colombia might be banned @MHSNany chance of medal for Rosa? hmm, not much, she didn't medal in the Pan-American Champs as well and if we consider the PBs, there are 3-4 girls way ahead of her. and then 4-5 more in the same level of her. so I say the chance is slim but not completely impossible. weird things happen sometimes. weightlifters make dumb mistakes and bomb out. but she needs to lift "at least" something around 190kg (10kg better than her PB) to stand a chance. Laraja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerSaxony 205 Posted April 22, 2021 #172 Share Posted April 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Dunadan said: if this document is correct, at D 2. Per Medal Event "The highest-ranked athlete from the IWF Absolute Ranking from an NOC (one per continent = 5) not otherwise represented in the bodyweight category shall earn an individual quota place" Thanks, that's interesting indeed. Since under D.1 in the same document it reads "The highest-ranked athlete from the IWF Absolute Ranking from an NOC (one per continent) not otherwise represented shall earn an individual quota place" - the bodyweight category is not mentioned here. If one stops reading after D.1, it'd tend to say that only NOCs are eligible which are not represented otherwise in Weightlifting. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 934 Posted April 22, 2021 #173 Share Posted April 22, 2021 @Griff88 I just checked about the Indonesian lifter in 61kg, he's safely qualified for Tokyo 2020 Olympics. I don't think he needs to participate in any event in extended period because I didn't find it anywhere in the PDF. If you find tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 6,862 Posted April 22, 2021 #174 Share Posted April 22, 2021 how many chances are there that China would eventually not show up in the men's -81kg in Tokyo? I mean, they have to choose among 4 weight classes...given their advantage over the closest rivals, -61, -67 and -73 are almost a lock, I guess... but what about no.4? is it gonna be -81kg or a heavier class? you know...Italy might have a little interest in that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,221 Posted April 22, 2021 #175 Share Posted April 22, 2021 73kg ranking 1. Shi - 5015 2. Cummings - 4185 3. Andreev - 4173 (NOC is limited to 2) 4. Mayora - 4076 5. Calja - 3984 (NOC is limited to 2) - O - 3958 (no) 6. Miyamoto - 3807 7. Ben Hnia - 3801 (Africa) 8. Sanchez - 3624 9. Robu - 3580 (NOC is limited to 2) - Petrov - 3562 (5 events) (NOC is limited to 1) 10. Lang - 3551 (also eligible for 81kg) - Yokubov - 3536 (no) 11. Abdullah - 3532 12. Meredov - 3354 13. Ismayilov - 3011 (NOC is limited to 2) 14. Won - 3001 15. Cardenas - 2940 - Sandoval - 2803 (no) (COL with 3 doping cases) * Won of KOR can still easily make it to top 8 if he participates in Colombia. (if he registered already) he bombed out in Asia * European Champion Ismayilov is in trouble because he bombed out in his first period tries. he still has a slim chance to qualify as the best European Weightlifters if few things happen in his favor. * BUL has max 2 quotas (in edge of being limited to 1 with 19 cases) and has 3 decent weightlifters at 61, 73 and 109, I have no idea how they are going to select these 2. but for now I assume Andreev is one of them. == ? If TUN stays in top 8, which I believe he will. the next best African in the list is from Morocco, but he participated in only 4 events and "needs" to participate in 1 more (beside African Champs) to become eligible. not sure if guys in Morocco knew this and registed him for Colombia. there is no other guy from Africa in the ranking with more than 2 or 3 events. very possible this quota gets re-allocated . don't know how they are going to do that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff88 1,737 Posted April 22, 2021 #176 Share Posted April 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said: @Griff88 I just checked about the Indonesian lifter in 61kg, he's safely qualified for Tokyo 2020 Olympics. I don't think he needs to participate in any event in extended period because I didn't find it anywhere in the PDF. If you find tell me. https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2020/05/FINAL-2020-05-26-Tokyo-2020-Revised-Qualification-system-Weightlifting-eng.pdf https://www.iwf.net/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2020/05/Tokyo-2020_Qualification-System_Modification-Guidelines.pdf I think that's clear enough - I believe @MHSN also read those as references Fly_like_a_don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,221 Posted April 23, 2021 #177 Share Posted April 23, 2021 81kg ranking I didn't calculate the points for top 4-5 since they are obviously safe 1. Lyu or Li 2. Rodallegas (COL with 3 doping cases) 3. Bonnat 4. Pizzolato 5. Rejepov - 3809 6. Maurus - 3729 7. Suharevs - 3724 8. Muller - 3690 9. Mata - 3665 - Beytula - 3605 (NOC is limited to 2) 10. Qerimaj - 3555 (NOC is limited to 2) 11. Mendez - 3496 - Saez - 3368 (needs one more event at 81kg, also eligible for 96kg) - Toshtemirov - 3318 (NOC is limited to 2) 12. Zwarycz - 3107 I had hard time to find the next best Asian Weightlifter, the next guys are from UZB, KAZ, IRI, IRQ and none of them are going to use this quota, IND didn't send Ajay Singh here. he just had to participate to qualify !!!! Won of KOR can take it but he is a 73kg weightlifter and I think KOR will have 4 weightlifters much better in other weights. Kasai of JPN who bombed out in Asia still needs one more event to complete his 6 events. so right now nobody from Asia is eligible for that continental quota ! == ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolby 712 Posted April 23, 2021 #178 Share Posted April 23, 2021 1 hour ago, MHSN said: 81kg ranking I didn't calculate the points for top 4-5 since they are obviously safe 1. Lyu or Li 2. Rodallegas (COL with 3 doping cases) 3. Bonnat 4. Pizzolato 5. Rejepov - 3809 6. Maurus - 3729 7. Suharevs - 3724 8. Muller - 3690 9. Mata - 3665 - Beytula - 3605 (NOC is limited to 2) 10. Qerimaj - 3555 (NOC is limited to 2) 11. Mendez - 3496 - Saez - 3368 (needs one more event at 81kg, also eligible for 96kg) - Toshtemirov - 3318 (NOC is limited to 2) 12. Zwarycz - 3107 I had hard time to find the next best Asian Weightlifter, the next guys are from UZB, KAZ, IRI, IRQ and none of them are going to use this quota, IND didn't send Ajay Singh here. he just had to participate to qualify !!!! Won of KOR can take it but he is a 73kg weightlifter and I think KOR will have 4 weightlifters much better in other weights. Kasai of JPN who bombed out in Asia still needs one more event to complete his 6 events. so right now nobody from Asia is eligible for that continental quota ! == ??? Even I was surprised to see no Ajay Singh here. Till last year, our federation was trying to get Ajay Singh in various tournaments because they hoped that he would get Asian quota here but now nothing. It could mean either Ajay Singh is injured or suspected of doping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siddhartha Talukdar 124 Posted April 23, 2021 #179 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Ajay Singh and Rakhi Halder had been suspended https://sportstar.thehindu.com/other-sports/nada-provisionally-suspends-rakhi-halder-ajay-thakur-anti-doping-rule-violations/article34283229.ece MHSN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,592 Posted April 23, 2021 #180 Share Posted April 23, 2021 If no major injury occur in next 3 months, Chinese men’s team would Li Fabian, Chen Lijun, Shi Zhiyong and Lyu Xiaojun. No surprise in ACH. opruh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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