phelps 7,801 Posted March 15, 2021 Author #111 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 8:57 PM, George_D said: can you also give us an overview of Men's Team Epée qualification status? ( ranking of teams till now, which countries will fight for the spots per continent) Expand well, men's Team Epee is so far the weapon with more decisions still to be taken... France and Italy are mathematically qualified through the World Ranking, as well as the USA are also already qualified to the Tokyo Games because of the Panamerican Continental spot... everything else, it's still open... right now (1 event still to go), Switzerland and Ukraine would be in through the World Ranking, South Korea thanks to the Asian continental spot and Hungary thanks to the European continental spot (Egypt only need to stay within the top 16 of the WR, currently they are 14th and they have to keep at least 2 between Estonia, Spain and Germany behind them to qualify, which however it won't be easy, as they are only a few points behind Egypt and they all have the chance to earn more points than the Africans in the last WC stage)... on the other hand, South Korea have an awful score of 8 points to be discarded, meanwhile Switzerland so far have 25 points as their worst result, Ukraine have 23, Hungary have 24 and Russia (who are the first out among the european teams, just 3 points behind HUN) only 21... all this, means that KOR are most likely to gain the 4th World spot after the last event and cause an earthquake among the remaining european teams, which are likely to lose a spot in favour of the second best Asian Team (Japan are 3 points ahead of China right now, but CHN have 8 points to be discarded and JPN have 25, which means that virtually CHN are 17 points ahead before the last competition)... so, considering the current standings and the whole "game" of discards, I think SUI are the heavy favourites to stay in the top 4 overall among the European teams and therefore to qualify to Tokyo 2021 as they still have quite a good margin in the standings over their direct rivals... KOR are also likely to sneak in into the top 4 overall, so giving a second Asian team (China rather than Japan, unless they make up at least 18 points on CHN in the last event) a place at the Olympics... imho, also Egypt are going to save their place somehow and therefore the fight for the European Continental spot is on between UKR, HUN and RUS, with UKR having to defend a 24 point lead over HUN and 27 over RUS... The full current Ranking is here, so you can make yourself all the calculation about the projected scores... https://tokyo2020.fie.org/ranks?weapon=E&gender=M Vic Liu 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-356673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_D 1,206 Posted March 17, 2021 #112 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Men's Team olympic qualification ranking Women's Team olympic qualification ranking Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmon Mary 27 Posted March 19, 2021 #113 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I am confused. https://tokyo2020.fie.org/ranks#tab-table shows following Ranking: Same site shows following Qualification: Why has Germany qualified, when Russia is the first NOC from Europe outside Top 4? Why has Korea not Qualified? I know this sayd provisional as at 3/3/2020, but there have not been any more competitions since then, and this is the official FIE site. Would appreciate a pointer as to where the official final rankings are, if not on this site. Thanks Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,801 Posted March 20, 2021 Author #114 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 9:40 PM, Cmon Mary said: I am confused. https://tokyo2020.fie.org/ranks#tab-table shows following Ranking: Same site shows following Qualification: Why has Germany qualified, when Russia is the first NOC from Europe outside Top 4? Why has Korea not Qualified? I know this sayd provisional as at 3/3/2020, but there have not been any more competitions since then, and this is the official FIE site. Would appreciate a pointer as to where the official final rankings are, if not on this site. Thanks Expand because the ranking is showing the total number of points without any discard, meanwhile the table with the provisionally qualified teams takes into account also 1 discarded results (and with that in mind, Russia is virtually ahead of KOR and HKG in the standings)... next week I'll try to post a more detailed analysis with all the possible combinations of results that could happen in the last event of the season... Cmon Mary 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted March 20, 2021 #115 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 9:40 PM, Cmon Mary said: Why has Germany qualified, when Russia is the first... Expand That's team foil - qualification finished a year ago, now there is only one individual left. For some reason they forgot to stop the ranking on the FIE website and added the 2021 Il Cairo WC (cancelled, worth 0 points) instead of the previous one, the final ranking for olympic qualification is which is exactly the FIE ranking as of now, since there were no more team events during the last events Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 5,855 Posted March 20, 2021 #116 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Never understood why the rankings never assigned the continental quotas first. If it was done like this the exact top 8 would be in Tokyo...now you have Canada who will be demolished in their matches. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 825 Posted March 20, 2021 #117 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Is the tournament in Kazan cancelled? There aren't any results on the official page. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 2,398 Posted March 20, 2021 #118 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/20/2021 at 5:35 PM, EselTheDonkey said: Is the tournament in Kazan cancelled? There aren't any results on the official page. Expand https://engarde-service.com/siteTemplate.php?lang=en&Organisme=rusadminofficial&Event=2020-09&page=competitions.php Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EselTheDonkey 825 Posted March 20, 2021 #119 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Sure, but there aren't results, are they? Just the bracket. Or is this a problem of my computer? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 2,398 Posted March 20, 2021 #120 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/20/2021 at 5:39 PM, EselTheDonkey said: Sure, but there aren't results, are they? Just the bracket. Or is this a problem of my computer? Expand the individual events will take place tomorrow EselTheDonkey 1 Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/935-fencing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/12/#findComment-357853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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