Weightlifting AWF Asian Championships 2020

[heywoodu 16,142]

6 minutes ago, MHSN said:

we usually have this problem with the media and the officials here, they usually don't know the rules.

I was not surprised for that to be the case in Brazilian winter sports (where the federation was absolutely convinced they could 'easily' qualify two women for the 2018 Winter Olympics in cross-country, while that really wasn't going to work the way they thought), but weightlifting in Iran? That's surprising (to me)  

[Griff88 2,015]

11 minutes ago, MHSN said:

we usually have this problem with the media and the officials here, they usually don't know the rules. I had to warn them so many times before . but I thought that's only an Iranian thing it turned out to be a worldwide problem.

 

he is probably the only who can challenge China and at worst he can win a silver , this is really stupid to throw away a medal like that. but I'm afraid it's already too late to register for the event in Colombia (unless they already registered)

I think yes, it’s too late

 

I will just break this to an investigative journalist to blow this up  

[MHSN 3,785]

5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I was not surprised for that to be the case in Brazilian winter sports (where the federation was absolutely convinced they could 'easily' qualify two women for the 2018 Winter Olympics in cross-country, while that really wasn't going to work the way they thought), but weightlifting in Iran? That's surprising (to me)  

I was talking about sports officials here in general but weightlifting federation is actually one of the worst. I think I wrote about some of our weightlifting scandals in past few years here.

 

both of our 2016 Olympic Champions are in trouble to even qualify for the Olympics because of "not knowing" the rules. Kianoush Rostami participated only in one event in the 2nd window and bombed out and then only after the competition he found out he will get a big fat zero from the 2nd window. Sohrab Moradi was in a great shape in 2018 and could participate in one more event to collect more points when he was in his best shape. yet he didn't and therefore he had to participate in so many events late in 2019 while he was recovering from a surgery. (two actually)

 

here they claim they will bring someone with a calculator to calculate how much Moradi has to lift to qualify (that will change during the competition depends on other guy's results) I had to contact some journalists and make them write something about it. I think now they know how much he has to lift to qualify but still I'm not 100% sure.

 

[Griff88 2,015]

25 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I was not surprised for that to be the case in Brazilian winter sports (where the federation was absolutely convinced they could 'easily' qualify two women for the 2018 Winter Olympics in cross-country, while that really wasn't going to work the way they thought), but weightlifting in Iran? That's surprising (to me)  

Lol you might be even more surprised that BWF forgot to implement their own rule regarding rankings and my friend repeatedly emailed them about that before they finally realized their “mistake”

[Griff88 2,015]

38 minutes ago, MHSN said:

we usually have this problem with the media and the officials here, they usually don't know the rules. I had to warn them so many times before . but I thought that's only an Iranian thing it turned out to be a worldwide problem.

 

In Indonesia there are not much “sport journalist”. I think many are football specialists who are “forced” to report on other sports. Since the biggest sport magazine in Indonesia stopped their activities a few years back, sports news online are mostly jokes in term of quality. Any time some athlete wins a World Cup series in a sport (like wall climbing for example) they will write “World Champions! Greatest in the World!” while we know exactly that it is just a normal, annual tournament series.

 

To make it worse, since the sport federation heads are mainly politicians/army generals who are close the current government and know nothing about the sport, they just came to press conference reading their script and those clueless journalists just write anyhting they can hear (many times they can’t even get the athlete’s name right!)

[Vic Liu 1,699]

My fellow-villager Shi Zhiyong obviously grabbed the ticket. So 2/4 are granted to Shi and Li.

[MHSN 3,785]

8 hours ago, Griff88 said:

In Indonesia there are not much “sport journalist”. I think many are football specialists who are “forced” to report on other sports. Since the biggest sport magazine in Indonesia stopped their activities a few years back, sports news online are mostly jokes in term of quality. Any time some athlete wins a World Cup series in a sport (like wall climbing for example) they will write “World Champions! Greatest in the World!” while we know exactly that it is just a normal, annual tournament series.

 

To make it worse, since the sport federation heads are mainly politicians/army generals who are close the current government and know nothing about the sport, they just came to press conference reading their script and those clueless journalists just write anyhting they can hear (many times they can’t even get the athlete’s name right!)

it's just like you are explaining the situation in Iran , specially those bold parts . I had to explain the difference between World Cup and World Championships like million times . mostly because here Football = Sport ! and since the biggest event in Football is called the World Cup. everybody thinks that applies to all other sports automatically !

 

yeah we also have that problem that football journalists are forced to write about other sports. maybe only wrestling has its own group of expert journalists. Weightlifting is not that big, actually far from that, a third tier sport actually, but there are still couple of journalists about it.

[Griff88 2,015]

Anyway @MHSN the Indonesian national coach replied to my message and he said that he actually offered Eko Yuli Irawan to compete in AWC since he did not actively request to participate (somehow I felt that he is also unaware about the qualification rule change too). In the media Eko felt that the participation in AWC is not necessary, and already focusing to the Olympics. The coach also said that he will discuss about it and requested my personal contact (but for what? ) 

[thiago_simoes 1,441]

2 hours ago, MHSN said:

it's just like you are explaining the situation in Iran , specially those bold parts . I had to explain the difference between World Cup and World Championships like million times . mostly because here Football = Sport ! and since the biggest event in Football is called the World Cup. everybody thinks that applies to all other sports automatically !

 

yeah we also have that problem that football journalists are forced to write about other sports. maybe only wrestling has its own group of expert journalists. Weightlifting is not that big, actually far from that, a third tier sport actually, but there are still couple of journalists about it.

Color me surprised! I thought it was supposed to be one of the huge hits in Iran, but I was wrong!

Now, about the difference between World Cup and World Championships, I think most international federations are the ones to blame. They should name the events "Grand Prix", "World Tour", "World Series" or anything like that. "World Cup" immediately alludes to a trophy and of course the first thing anyone thinks is that the winner is the best in the world.

[MHSN 3,785]

Chinese weightlifters broke the snatch WR twice ! 174 and 175.

 

but it was a bad day for Iran, our young guy Soltani injured his elbow very badly that could win him a bronze medal in snatch (and probably a total medal) but he injured himself and that was one of those career-ending injuries. he is already in the hospital