[OFF TOPIC] Politics Thread

[Monzanator 4,507]

7 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I think the most important take away from this though, is that reform is possible. It might not be perfect, but people are happier with what they have now. At the very least, it was a step in the right direction. That’s a lot more than can be said about most other departments around the country.

 

Change for a change ain't the way to go. Since the Camden residents still raise the racial issues - despite Camden hiring more black policemen than white - what is there to follow? Racism is the problem Minnesota tries to solve after all and the Camden example shows they might have solved the corruption problem but racial tensions still remain. So it won't solve anything in Minnesota.

[Olympian1010 7,977]

28 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

 

Change for a change ain't the way to go. Since the Camden residents still raise the racial issues - despite Camden hiring more black policemen than white - what is there to follow? Racism is the problem Minnesota tries to solve after all and the Camden example shows they might have solved the corruption problem but racial tensions still remain. So it won't solve anything in Minnesota.

I wouldn’t write it off before viewing other important statistics like how many people cops have killed, racial make up of arrests, etc. If those rates are more realistic than the rest of the country, then there is some improvement there. If those rates aren’t much lower, then we need to keep exploring options (and passing laws like the Equality Amendment, gun control, school funding, mental health funding, hire more social workers, etc.).

[Vic Liu 1,682]

5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

He needs to go.

This might be the most idiotic thing he’s ever published. The dude was clearly not Antifa, and of course he won’t condemn police officers who pushed a 75 year old man to the ground. 

He's not idiotic but realistic. He literally has zero intention to unite the people. He just want to please his original supporters and potential riot haters to gain the votes. Those protesters will not vote for him anyway, so no need to care, it's better to focus on what could win but not already lost. The cost is tearing the society apart even further but who cares.

[Monzanator 4,507]

56 minutes ago, Olympian1010 said:

I wouldn’t write it off before viewing other important statistics like how many people cops have killed, racial make up of arrests, etc. If those rates are more realistic than the rest of the country, then there is some improvement there. If those rates aren’t much lower, then we need to keep exploring options (and passing laws like the Equality Amendment, gun control, school funding, mental health funding, hire more social workers, etc.).

Camden has 53% black population, 30% Latinos and only 16% whites (that was 2000 Census). So there's a bigger chance most of the criminals will be non-whites and that's exactly what supposedly confirms there's a racism inside the police. I can tell you what the racial make up of arrests will look like - most of them will be non-white and progressive people will scream "racism" all over the news  

[Agger 1,663]

5 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

He needs to go.

This might be the most idiotic thing he’s ever published. The dude was clearly not Antifa, and of course he won’t condemn police officers who pushed a 75 year old man to the ground. 

 

No doubt that it's all part of his desperate plan to get reelected in the current mess. If he can make ANTIFA seem like an actually organized thing, it's a lot easier to go on witht the Law & Order talk pushing towards strengthening the police and putting more people behind bars.

Sadly OAN is more than ready to give him the weapons, but considering that it's packed with conspiracy theorists and a (former) writer for Russian propaganda media Sputnik News that's not really surprising.

[Olympian1010 7,977]

2 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

He's not idiotic but realistic. He literally has zero intention to unite the people. He just want to please his original supporters and potential riot haters to gain the votes. Those protesters will not vote for him anyway, so no need to care, it's better to focus on what could win but not already lost. The cost is tearing the society apart even further but who cares.

Well for those us invested in the health of democracy and our country; we care. What you said right their is the difference between politics and morality/true democracy. 

[Olympian1010 7,977]

1 hour ago, Agger said:

 

No doubt that it's all part of his desperate plan to get reelected in the current mess. If he can make ANTIFA seem like an actually organized thing, it's a lot easier to go on witht the Law & Order talk pushing towards strengthening the police and putting more people behind bars.

Sadly OAN is more than ready to give him the weapons, but considering that it's packed with conspiracy theorists and a (former) writer for Russian propaganda media Sputnik News that's not really surprising.

I will be really interesting to see what happens if loses the election. He is absolutely someone who would try to pull some dumb shit authoritarian takeover of the U.S. 

 

While, this might all seem like partisan talk and politics, these are the kind of states and attitudes that begin to fracture nations.

[Olympian1010 7,977]

How mentally gone do you have to be to think this is funny or a good form of protest? I get there’s people who do not believe in what BLM is saying, or people who dislike the direction BLM has gone; but making fun of the way someone was basically mercilessly executed seems inhuman honestly.

 

[Monzanator 4,507]

12 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

Well for those us invested in the health of democracy and our country; we care. What you said right their is the difference between politics and morality/true democracy. 

 

All fine and dandy but Democrats are more divided than anyone with their useless "moderate" vs "progressive" battle. This actually helps Trump the most.

[Dnl 691]

11 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

How mentally gone do you have to be to think this is funny or a good form of protest? I get there’s people who do not believe in what BLM is saying, or people who dislike the direction BLM has gone; but making fun of the way someone was basically mercilessly executed seems inhuman honestly.

 

The BLM group member lost their mind and those Idiots are more similar as they may think...