MHSN 3,619 Posted September 30, 2017 #11 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, monte88 said: Why not Iran? They are the same like Russia and China. the same ? in term of winning medals you mean probably ! let's say why not Poland ? Szarmiak and Zielinski brothers say hello in past 6-7 years Iran had almost 1 positive test per year (last time 2014) which is still bad but nothing comparing to others. and actually Iranians never failed a drug test in a major competition, mostly because they test weightlifters in the national camp regularly before the major competitions, because of the costs they can't do that for all athletes and all competitions of course I don't deny what we had with our Bulgarian coach long time ago but everything has changed since 2009 and because of the past record Iranian weightlifters are under IWF/WADA out of competition tests so many times per year. Edited September 30, 2017 by MHSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted September 30, 2017 #12 Share Posted September 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Gianlu33 said: Iran haven't 3 or more doped in the last two Olympics. It's the only criteria that the IWF decided to use. This is indeed really how simple it is. If IWF says "one year suspension for countries that have 3 or more positive re-tests from the 2008 and 2012 Olympics", that's just really, really not complicated. If Country A has 3 or more positives in those re-tests: ban If Country A has 2, 1 or 0 positives in those re-tests: no ban No discussion possible. It's really easy, so I'm rather curious why people don't understand that and wonder about other countries, that weren't even part of the entire discussion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,619 Posted October 2, 2017 #13 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Four members of Iranian weightlifting team denied visa by US embassy in Dubai ! two weightlifters and two officials, Ayoub Mousavi and Saleh Cheraghi both Asian silver medalists from 2017. fortunately all of our stars will be there in US. here is the list of those who went to Dubai for visa. because of the long visa process they can't add anybody else to the list. the Iranian federation is trying to solve the issue with the help of IWF and the US NOC, but they will probably fail. 69: Majid Askari 85: Kianoush Rostami, Saleh Cheraghi, Ali Miri, Masoud Chatraei 94: Sohrab Moradi, Ayoub Mousavi 105: MohammadReza Barari, Ali Hashemi, Alireza Soleimani +105: Behdad Salimi, Saeid Alihosseini, Homayoun Teymouri with all those countries missing the competition, most of Iranian weightlifters will be favorite for the medal. if Mousavi misses the tournament, they have no other option to bring Askari (probably the only one without a chance) , you can't send more than 2 weightlifters per weight, the most interesting name in this list is Saeid Alihosseini, weightlifting community remembers him very well, he is still the world junior record holder. he had some crazy numbers in training 8 years ago. something like 215+270=485 ! but he got a life ban (later reduced to 12 years) for his 2nd doping test. apparently according to new rules his ban is reduced to 8 years and he is clear to participate, nobody knows about his current shape .they kept it like a secret. Edited October 2, 2017 by MHSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon 1,844 Posted October 3, 2017 #14 Share Posted October 3, 2017 https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1056102/four-iranians-denied-visas-for-2017-world-weightlifting-championships-in-us-report-claims Story has reached the rest of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 4,552 Posted November 3, 2017 #15 Share Posted November 3, 2017 North Korea has not entered a team for the biggest event on this year’s weightlifting calendar – and has passed up a chance to register its greatest sporting triumph on American soil. North Korea was expected to finish top of the medals table in Anaheim as it had lifters ranked Number 1 in seven weight categories, after the removal of lifters from the nine nations which have been banned for a year for multiple doping offences - China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Armenia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Moldova and Turkey. heywoodu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 3,045 Posted November 4, 2017 #16 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Gianlu33 said: North Korea has not entered a team for the biggest event on this year’s weightlifting calendar – and has passed up a chance to register its greatest sporting triumph on American soil. North Korea was expected to finish top of the medals table in Anaheim as it had lifters ranked Number 1 in seven weight categories, after the removal of lifters from the nine nations which have been banned for a year for multiple doping offences - China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Armenia, Belarus, Azerbaijan, Moldova and Turkey. What's the point of even holding that "world" championship? It's going to be a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted November 4, 2017 #17 Share Posted November 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Nate River said: What's the point of even holding that "world" championship? It's going to be a joke. Because you can hardly cancel a world championships only because several top nations got themselves in trouble . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,822 Posted November 4, 2017 #18 Share Posted November 4, 2017 so a possible top 20 for us assuming the circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianlu33 4,552 Posted November 5, 2017 #19 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Kianoush Rostami, the popular Olympic champion from Iran who was overwhelmingly voted male Weightlifter of the Year last February, has been refused a visa by the United States. His hopes of competing in the International Weightlifting Federation (IWF) World Championships, which run from November 28 until December 5 in Anaheim, California, rest on a second application to the US Department of State, which he made last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepharoah 2,405 Posted November 6, 2017 #20 Share Posted November 6, 2017 USA should be banned from organizing big sports event , because always same VISA problems happen , especially for Muslim countries , if they can't separate sport from politics , why they organize such tournaments , what's the danger Rostami has for American security to be banned from participating and i'm sure he'll not be the only one , here in Egypt all athletes say America is the hardest Visa , they apply for it before the tournament with a very long period , sportsmen shouldn't be treated as ordinary people , sportsmen should be treated as diplomatic persons IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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