ngyojiw 29 Posted August 11 #381 Share Posted August 11 Guys, there are books that have the bet for Most winning Gold Medal in Olympic. What happens to the money if you either pick US or China. Its crazy lol. Its unthinkable. The books might eat both side of money? konig and MedalChampion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDOG 2,414 Posted August 11 #382 Share Posted August 11 Unexpectedly leaving without medals: first time since 2012. first time since 2000. first time since 1996. first time in all olympic history, counting both summer and winter games. ivanmar, Josh, Bulgaria87 and 14 others 7 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 229 Posted August 11 #383 Share Posted August 11 16 minutes ago, Gianlu33 said: Italy defeated Germany in the medal table for the first time since Rome 1960 (64 years ago!) Objectively, we should be in 8th place, if not for Korea's sensational efficiency in gold medals, but that's nothing. If at least 1/4 of these 4th places were converted into medals, it would be our absolute record + add injuries, illnesses, bad luck, etc. konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasit 865 Posted August 11 #384 Share Posted August 11 Very sad for Finland especially... Wumo, FancyFenchel, Ros and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted August 11 #385 Share Posted August 11 6 hours ago, De_Gambassi said: I don't really care one way or the other, but I'd prefer the US to top the medals table as it's a much more a genuine grass roots sporting nation than China. What does „grass roots sporting nation“ even mean? a) The Chinese practiced fighting „sports“ (king fu) for at least 1000 years before the U.S. even became a thing. b) When you walk through a random American city, you certainly wouldn’t get the impression of a „grass roots sporting nation“. You would get the impression that at least 90 % of their people are morbidly obese (which is only a slight exaggeration), but maybe Ozempic will „solve“ that problem … Ted and opruh 2 Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noorderling29 166 Posted August 11 #386 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 35 minutes ago, copravolley said: Objectively, we should be in 8th place, if not for Korea's sensational efficiency in gold medals, but that's nothing. If at least 1/4 of these 4th places were converted into medals, it would be our absolute record + add injuries, illnesses, bad luck, etc. Some of the Italian medals will have beenwon through injuries, illnesses and bad luck of other nations. Edited August 11 by Noorderling29 De_Gambassi, orangeman and Quasit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 858 Posted August 11 #387 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 6 hours ago, Pavlo said: Not exactly. We think of China that way because...we know why. But looking at it wider....it is one of the oldest civilazations (yes, sportive too) and USA has many sins like atomic bomb or native people😉😉. Also with hiding their doping. No, it's not that simple as media are saying 😉😉. I just think we should look at it wider. Not be so biased. Not sure what those „sins“ have to do with anything … You could have also mentioned the Chinese „sins“ (Tibet, Uyghurs, Taiwan, Hong Kong). Still Asian countries feel much more like „grass roots sports nations“ when you just look at the (healthiness of) population. I think being the number one in sports is very important for the American identity (especially when they have no war to cheer for), so it would be interesting to see what happens if China takes that away from them for good. We saw what happened when the Soviet Union did it. „Bread and circuses“ has been a very effective approach to keep the population sedated/distracted for at least 2000 years. Edited August 11 by OlympicsFan Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdr4332 218 Posted August 11 #388 Share Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: What does „grass roots sporting nation“ even mean? a) The Chinese practiced fighting „sports“ (king fu) for at least 1000 years before the U.S. even became a thing. b) When you walk through a random American city, you certainly wouldn’t get the impression of a „grass roots sporting nation“. You would get the impression that at least 90 % of their people are morbidly obese (which is only a slight exaggeration), but maybe Ozempic will „solve“ that problem … I would give the point on grass roots sporting only to the extent it concerns high school or college sport. But this is only a subsegment of college/HS age population let alone the pop as a whole. For the rest what you write is probably closer to the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copravolley 229 Posted August 11 #389 Share Posted August 11 These are objective calculations that we have the most 4th and 5th places (5th place in judo is the first place behind the podium). On paper we should win about 45 medals here - that's what the bookmakers' predictions indicated before the games. But personally, I prefer gold in volleyball than 4-5 bronze in track cycling or archery. Ros, MedalChampion and Josh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdr4332 218 Posted August 11 #390 Share Posted August 11 By the way if it stays 40-40 with golds (which is probably the case) what would have made the difference? Maybe for China: Imane Khalif box final (could they somehow challenge that?) US: err, that high jump MedalChampion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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