[OFF TOPIC] Coronavirus Pandemic

[Vic Liu 1,699]

1 minute ago, brunamoura said:

I don't see that ever happening here in Brazil, unfortunately ?

Here, even the ones that are still waiting for the results (suspected) are sent home. Sometimes it seems like they want people to be infected so we can get on international news ??‍♀️?

"Brazil is the first one in South America, yaaaaaayy! " ...

 

That's what Wuhan did at the very beginning, and then the great outbreak happened, and then Wuhan itself lost capability to control and contain the epidemic. And then the whole world began to watch this TV series... 

[heywoodu 16,279]

6 minutes ago, Vic Liu said:

 

That's what Wuhan did at the very beginning, and then the great outbreak happened, and then Wuhan itself lost capability to control and contain the epidemic. And then the whole world began to watch this TV series... 

 

Didn't Wuhan appoint a new 'leader' of the authorities there a week or two ago? Coincidentally since then, there's basically been no news from Wuhan at all anymore - no regular citizens posting blogs or whatever, nothing. Only a video that, much like half the citizens, went viral: people in the city yelling from out of their appartment buildings.

[Agger 1,747]

1 hour ago, Agger said:

Oh well. 2 persons are being checked for Corona at our local hospital.

Maybe I should go shopping before panic breaks out... 

 

Oh well. The hospital has checked 16 patients before, all negative. Some checks are actually made

[Vic Liu 1,699]

34 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

Didn't Wuhan appoint a new 'leader' of the authorities there a week or two ago? Coincidentally since then, there's basically been no news from Wuhan at all anymore - no regular citizens posting blogs or whatever, nothing. Only a video that, much like half the citizens, went viral: people in the city yelling from out of their appartment buildings.

 

A new leader maybe two weeks ago. He took some "stonger" measures to contain the spread. Firstly he ordered the hospital and government hospitalized all confirmed patients, but Wuhan don't have that many beds and medics. and then built 40+ temporary hospital in stadium and exhibition center to hospitalize mild symptom patients and deliver total 40000+ medics from rest part of China to help. Second he ordered grassroots government staff to check if there any patient left at home. Each grassroots governor is responsible for a little residential area, he has to know who is patient, who is suspected and who is at quarantine at home. The government collect those data and sent all patients to hospital. Now the Wuhan government claims "no more patients waiting for beds, only beds waiting for patients".

 

The video people yelling from apartment is actually quite early, definitely before the new leader came. Just people yelling “Wuhan, stay strong", cheering up each other. It's also scolded by experts, saying it's also potentially infectious.

 

After all, I don't live in Wuhan and I don't know what real life is there. I think it's still a ghost town and people must suffer a lot both physically and mentally. Daily new patients keep going down these days. Hope they will finish this quite soon. People in other parts of China gradually back to normal life now.

 

PS another reason no regular citizens posting blogs any more maybe due to mass VPNs dead again in China, including mine. I have to buy a new one.

Edited February 26, 2020 by Vic Liu

[heywoodu 16,279]

1 hour ago, Vic Liu said:

 

The video people yelling from apartment is actually quite early, definitely before the new leader came. Just people yelling “Wuhan, stay strong", cheering up each other. 

 

That's another video from a while ago, where people were heard mostly chanting - like in good spirits. In this one it almost sounds like a horror movie, with crying and yelling everywhere.

[Vic Liu 1,699]

26 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

That's another video from a while ago, where people were heard mostly chanting - like in good spirits. In this one it almost sounds like a horror movie, with crying and yelling everywhere.

 

I haven't seen that one, may be censored...Could u share the link if u still have it?

[MHSN 3,785]

2 hours ago, Vic Liu said:

 

If he is in China, first he will be mandatorily stay in hospital until he is fully recover. After recovery he will be sent to a hotel with another 14-day quarantine. Second, his close contacts(family members, co-workers) will be quarantine in a hotel for 14 days. Third, his other contacts( neighbors, people wherever he met in a short time) will be asked to quarantine at home for 14 days. local government staff will be responsible to monitor and deliver food and goods during home-quarantine. Hospital treatment and mandatory hotel quarantine are free of charge ( very socialism haha).  A great social loss for China but finally the situation is under control now.

 

that sounds good and fair. can you send some of those officials here to manage things ? only if they had quarantined Qom in the first place the situation would be much better now. but then that's a big city with more than a million , of course it's ghost town now

 

here we were told to "stay at home" if we think we have symptoms and don't rush into hospitals ! (that's what I did myself ) cut contact with everybody and use mask if there is other person living at home. if you don't get better in 3-4 days then go to the hospital or go to hospital at any time you feel worse (and fortunately I still don't know what will happen after that) this is the flu season too that creates more problems.

 

we were told that everything will be back to normal on Saturday but I'm sure most people won't let their children going to the schools.

 

this map (from today) show how fast this is spreading here, you can't read anything but still you can see the colors Tehran and Qom are next to each other in darker orange . and I live in that tiny little province in yellow next to Tehran.

 

[Vic Liu 1,699]

5 minutes ago, MHSN said:

 

that sounds good and fair. can you send some of those officials here to manage things ? only if they had quarantined Qom in the first place the situation would be much better now. but then that's a big city with more than a million , of course it's ghost town now

 

here we were told to "stay at home" if we think we have symptoms and don't rush into hospitals ! (that's what I did myself ) cut contact with everybody and use mask if there is other person living at home. if you don't get better in 3-4 days then go to the hospital or go to hospital at any time you feel worse (and fortunately I still don't know what will happen after that) this is the flu season too that creates more problems.

 

we were told that everything will be back to normal on Saturday but I'm sure most people won't let their children going to the schools.

 

this map (from today) show how fast this is spreading here, you can't read anything but still you can see the colors Tehran and Qom are next to each other in darker orange . and I live in that tiny little province in yellow next to Tehran.

 

 

Well the measures I mentioned above are actually taken after the outbreak. Chinese government at different level all take measures to contain the spread at any cost. And it does cost too much. So if doesn't reach that level, other government are not willing to make every effort to contain it. After all, fatal rate is just 1-2% and most people are just like getting flu.

[heywoodu 16,279]

44 minutes ago, Vic Liu said:

 

Well the measures I mentioned above are actually taken after the outbreak. Chinese government at different level all take measures to contain the spread at any cost. And it does cost too much. So if doesn't reach that level, other government are not willing to make every effort to contain it. After all, fatal rate is just 1-2% and most people are just like getting flu.

But 2% is way higher than a normal flu..

[AlFHg 330]

22 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But 2% is way higher than a normal flu..

It’s 2% of known infected people. The difference between normal flu and this is mainly due to the fact that what we call “flu” is more or less well known* and we can make epidemiological predictions on what happens every year. This virus is new and is almost impossible to make a model that may give us a correct idea on how it spreads, which symptoms are common, which are harmful and in practice how many serious cases we have. With this new virus, a lot of cases are asymptomatic, which means you cannot detect them properly and use the data for a whole, decent prediction. And let me tell you that of 400 patients in Italy, more than a half are asynptomatic, they were tested only because suspected of close contact.

 

*each year the influenza virus undergoes mutations but more or less it has the same kind of mechanism of action, so it is possible to contain it through vaccines