Fencing FIE World Championships 2023

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Women's Epee Olympic Ranking

 

1.   196 pts - World 1

2.   196 pts - World 2

3.   192 pts - World 3

4.   180 pts - World 4

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5.   135 pts - America

6.   134 pts - Europe

7.   132 pts - Asia

8.   124 pts

9.   122 pts

10.   114 pts

11.   113 pts

12.   108 pts - Africa

13.   105 pts

14.   104 pts

15.   98 pts

16.   68 pts

17.   68 pts

 

 

Men's sabre Olympic ranking

 

1.   228 pts - World 1

2.   196 pts - World 2

3.   193 pts - World 3

4.   168 pts - World 4

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5.   148 pts - Europe

6.   142 pts - Asia

7.   134 pts

8.   128 pts - Africa

9.   118 pts

10.   116 pts - America

11.   112 pts

12.   99 pts

13.   98 pts

14.   89 pts

15.   83 pts

16.   76 pts

17.   76 pts

[Vektor 3,326]

As for the handshake issue: it's beyond stupid for fencing to force athlete to shake hands. Even tennis, one of the most high class sports there is, allows players to not shake hands. FIE and the fencing community are full of themselves if they think that this is okay. And not just for the Ukraine-Russia situation. Don't ignore the human element of the sport, you can't force athletes to respect each other. 

[OlympicsFan 858]

17 minutes ago, Vektor said:

As for the handshake issue: it's beyond stupid for fencing to force athlete to shake hands. Even tennis, one of the most high class sports there is, allows players to not shake hands. FIE and the fencing community are full of themselves if they think that this is okay. And not just for the Ukraine-Russia situation. Don't ignore the human element of the sport, you can't force athletes to respect each other. 

Completely stupid rule. They should have learned during the pandemic that shaking hands is very unsanitary and can lead to the spread of disease. Also if they want to appear like a gentleman's sport, they should maybe punish the athletes for screaming and jumping around after every hit + i don't really have the impression that many athletes have a lot of respect for the referees (especially if they don't judge in their favor).

Edited July 28, 2023 by OlympicsFan

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The draws are out for tomorrow, these are the potential matches in the Round of 16

 

Men's foil

 

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 

Women's sabre

 

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 

I think @phelpswon't be happy about meeting Ukraine in the R16 in women's sabre after what happened with Kharlan. That can be one nasty draw for Italy. We got Poland instead of Ukraine, the team that almost beat us 4 years ago in the R16, Pusztai saved us there with an insane run at the end.

[Olympian1010 7,976]

2 hours ago, Illya said:

Ok so Kharlan qualified at the OG via special quota at least (it was suggested by our favorite Thomas Bach) 

 

[Benolympique 2,398]

50 minutes ago, Vektor said:

As for the handshake issue: it's beyond stupid for fencing to force athlete to shake hands. Even tennis, one of the most high class sports there is, allows players to not shake hands. FIE and the fencing community are full of themselves if they think that this is okay. And not just for the Ukraine-Russia situation. Don't ignore the human element of the sport, you can't force athletes to respect each other. 

I don't agree, in all sports we greet each other, it's a rule of respect, I find it sad that politics take over sport, which must be outside of all that.

[Illya 513]

1 minute ago, Benolympique said:

which must be outside of all that

it can't because Russians support putin and war in Ukraine. We cannot shake hands to people who financed missiles which killed our nation every motherf.cking day

[Benolympique 2,398]

2 minutes ago, Illya said:

it can't because Russians support putin and war in Ukraine. We cannot shake hands to people who financed missiles which killed our nation every motherf.cking day

these athletes have nothing to do with it, it's a bit easy to make this deduction..

Edited July 28, 2023 by Benolympique

[Olympian1010 7,976]

1 minute ago, Benolympique said:

I don't agree, in all sports we greet each other, it's a rule of respect, I find it sad that politics take over sport, which must be outside of all that.

Speaking personally, I would refuse a handshake after a match if my opponent hasn’t played by the rules or was verbally abusive to me or my team. I think respect is a mutual effort.

 

In terms of the actual incident in question, Kharlan did seem to acknowledge her opponent, which everything considered, is actually quite surprising.

[phelps 7,677]

1 hour ago, Vektor said:

The draws are out for tomorrow, these are the potential matches in the Round of 16

 

Men's foil

 

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 

Women's sabre

 

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 v   ||   v

 

I think @phelpswon't be happy about meeting Ukraine in the R16 in women's sabre after what happened with Kharlan. That can be one nasty draw for Italy. We got Poland instead of Ukraine, the team that almost beat us 4 years ago in the R16, Pusztai saved us there with an insane run at the end.

I wouldn't be happy in any case, since our girls are normally so afraid to face Kharlan and take insane runs every time

 

however, I still think our team is much better than  who basically can rely only on their superstar