Rowing WR World Championships 2023

[phelps 7,846]

  On 8/31/2023 at 7:09 PM, phelps said:

 ITALY

 

 

Women

 

 

• Single Sculls: Clara Guerra
• Pairs: Alice Codato / Aisha Rocek*
• Double Sculls: Stefania Buttignon / Silvia Crosio (they're both LW  )
• Fours: - (NOT participating)
• Quadruple Sculls: Valentina Iseppi / Alessandra Montesano / Laura Meriano / Stefania Gobbi
• Eights: Giorgia Pelacchi / Linda De Filippis / Alice Gnatta / Aisha Rocek / Alice Codato / Silvia Terrazzi / Elisa Mondelli / Veronica Bumbaca
• LW Double Sculls: Valentina Rodini / Federica Cesarini

* Doublin'up in Pairs and Eights

Men

 

 

• Single Sculls: Davide Mumolo
• Pairs: Davide Comini / Giovanni Codato
• Double Sculls: Luca Rambaldi / Matteo Sartori
• Fours: Paolo Covini / Alessandro Bonamoneta / Davide Verità / Alfonso Scalzone
• Quadruple Sculls: Nicolò Carucci / Andrea Panizza / Luca Chiumento / Giacomo Gentili
• Eights: Matteo Dalla Valle / Emanuele Gaetani Liseo / Salvatore Monfrecola / Giovanni Abagnale / Gennaro Di Mauro / Simone Venier / Vincenzo Abbagnale / Leonardo Pietra Caprina
• LW Double Sculls: Stefano Oppo / Gabriel Soares

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I think we're approaching the lowest point ever by our glorious sport of Rowing 

 

between injuries, retirements, unsuccessful transitions to the senior level (when not just lack of talent), people giving priority to their studies in the US colleges and questionable decisions by our coaches, we will be lucky if we can qualify to the Olympics 3 men's boats (2X, 4X, LW2X) and 1 women's boat (the Tokyo Gold Medallists Rodini & Cesarini in the LW2X)

 

the W 4X might also have a slim chance, but they would need to pull out a miracle

 

meanwhile I don't see how any other remaining boats can even get close to a qualifying result

 

dreaming of medals, 3 - no gold (M 2X, M 4X, M LW2X) would be a huge success

[Olympian1010 8,073]

  On 8/31/2023 at 6:23 PM, zob79 said:

'Cause it's difficult to find 8 high-value athletes to put in (just) one boat; this is a good indicator of a country's depth in rowing.

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Not to mention, you then need to find another six to compete in the other boats, and that’s not even considering athletes in the sculls.

[NearPup 3,249]

  On 8/31/2023 at 5:01 PM, Oldira said:

And the Eights come from mainly English Speaking countries..Canada,US,GB,NZ and Aus. Add Germany, Romania and Netherlands and thats pretty much it. If they are the Blue Riband of rowing then why are so few countries competing? 

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So few countries compete because everyone other than the biggest countries will naturaly focus on the pair and the four. Given the resources required the eight is very much an all or nothing proposition because it takes away athletes from two different Olympic events.

[NearPup 3,249]

Also, I think if we were to cut rowing events the "middle" events (the fours and the double scull) make the most sense to eliminate. It still leaves the smaller boats, where more nations are competitive, while also leaving the heavier, more spectacular and more prestigious classes.

 

Eliminating the fours would also lead to more countries building eights.

Edited August 31, 2023 by NearPup

[Olympian1010 8,073]

  On 8/31/2023 at 8:45 PM, NearPup said:

Also, I think if we were to cut rowing events the "middle" events (the fours and the double scull) make the most sense to eliminate.

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I’ve been thinking about a similar idea for a while too. My proposed program would be: Single Scull, LW Double Scull, Quad Scull, Pair, Eights
 

World Rowing could then re-route the newly freed quotas to increase field sizes in those events.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Olympian1010

[Fly_like_a_don 1,113]

  On 8/30/2023 at 4:19 PM, dodge said:

 

Some stats on quotas based on the entries on worldrowing

			Quota	Entries		% chance
Men	Single Sculls	m1x	9	48		18.75%
Men	Double Sculls	m2x	11	30		36.67%
Men	Lightweight Double Sculls	LM2x	7	27		25.93%
Men	Quad Sculls	M4x	7	17		41.18%
Men	Coxless Pair	M2-	11	28		39.29%
Men	Coxless Four	M4-	7	17		41.18%
Men	Eight	M8+	5	10		50.00%
Women	Single Sculls	w1x	9	32		28.13%
Women	Double Sculls	W2X	11	20		55.00%
Women	Lightweight Double Sculls	LW2X	7	21		33.33%
Women	Quad Sculls	W4X	7	13		53.85%
Women	Coxless Pair	W2-	11	22		50.00%
Women	Coxless Four	W4-	7	16		43.75%
Wowen	Eight	W8+	5	8		62.50%

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Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender.  Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 

[Olympian1010 8,073]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:35 AM, Fly_like_a_don said:

Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 

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A little bit of hyperbole there, hopefully. While rowing is a bit cumbersome on athlete quotas, there has been a good diversity in competing nations and medalists at the Olympic Games.

[De_Gambassi 1,225]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:35 AM, Fly_like_a_don said:

Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender.  Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 

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Please do list them. 

 

[dodge 1,028]

  On 9/1/2023 at 7:35 AM, Fly_like_a_don said:

Rowing has to be one of the least competitive sports to be part of Olympics. Europeans might not like it but yeah it should be cut down to just 4 or 5 events per gender.  Surely over 100 non Olympic sports exist which have a more competitive field than rowing. 

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17 different countries won medals in Tokyo. 
 

11 different countries won gold. 
 

Of the 14 golds won, 8 of them won by non-European nations 

 

Only gold won by Romania in Tokyo. 1 of 2 won by Ireland, Greece. 1 of 3 by Croatia

 

One of the only sports where the USA didn’t win a medal

 

Overall I think that’s a decent record. 

[NearPup 3,249]

  On 9/1/2023 at 8:26 AM, dodge said:

17 different countries won medals in Tokyo. 
 

11 different countries won gold. 
 

Of the 14 golds won, 8 of them won by non-European nations 

 

Only gold won by Romania in Tokyo. 1 of 2 won by Ireland, Greece. 1 of 3 by Croatia

 

One of the only sports where the USA didn’t win a medal

 

Overall I think that’s a decent record. 

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Obviously  are all European nations.

 

Rowing is actually one of the few sport where every continent (counting North and South America as separate continents) has won an Olympic gold.

Edited September 1, 2023 by NearPup