El Analyzer 160 Posted September 3, 2023 #201 Share Posted September 3, 2023 When I am looking at the Olympic program I have a lot of questions regarding medal distribution between sports. As an example: Rowing has 14 medals, Canoeing 16 and sailing 10 (this group altogether 40 medals) While some other sports are having much less medals (Modern Pentathlon 2, Triathlon 3, and something like Weightlifting the quotas reduced to 10 medals only now) On the other hand some popular sports are fighting to get included each cycle like Cricket, squash, Karate and Baseball. Would it be more fair for wider audience to get some reasonable cuts from existing sports and include couple more as permanent By the way I don’t have any problems with Rowing, sailing etc, but I feel the allocated medal are a bit excessive compared to others. Olympian1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,572 Posted September 3, 2023 #202 Share Posted September 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, El Analyzer said: When I am looking at the Olympic program I have a lot of questions regarding medal distribution between sports. As an example: Rowing has 14 medals, Canoeing 16 and sailing 10 (this group altogether 40 medals) While some other sports are having much less medals (Modern Pentathlon 2, Triathlon 3, and something like Weightlifting the quotas reduced to 10 medals only now) On the other hand some popular sports are fighting to get included each cycle like Cricket, squash, Karate and Baseball. Would it be more fair for wider audience to get some reasonable cuts from existing sports and include couple more as permanent By the way I don’t have any problems with Rowing, sailing etc, but I feel the allocated medal are a bit excessive compared to others. I don’t have a problem with sports having more events than others, so long as they are unique enough to warrant inclusion. People complain about windsurfing and kite-sailing being added in sailing, but they do offer something pretty different from the standard dingy events. Same with lightweight rowing or coastal rowing. Personally, I think it comes down to how athlete quotas are utilized. The IOC has really lacked innovation in this space. You can only limit entries so much before the Olympics starts to lose universality, competitive fields, and general appeal. There needs to be more thought put into policies that affect athlete quotas. El Analyzer and Josh 2 “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Analyzer 160 Posted September 3, 2023 #203 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Exactly, athletes quotas is the main concern, IOC wants to cap the entries but keeping unversality. my personal feeling that IOC doesn't care so much, revenue is important of course but just feeling bad for athletes in other sports who deserve to be olympians Olympian1010 and Josh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De_Gambassi 914 Posted September 3, 2023 #204 Share Posted September 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, El Analyzer said: Exactly, athletes quotas is the main concern, IOC wants to cap the entries but keeping unversality. my personal feeling that IOC doesn't care so much, revenue is important of course but just feeling bad for athletes in other sports who deserve to be olympians And also athletes in established olympic disciplines who are cut because of the quotas limitation (I'm strongly thinking about canoeing slalom here) Honestly, there is little you can do with the current cap of 10,500 athletes and the olympic program as it is. You can tweek it a bit, but really, just a bit. Josh and El Analyzer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,204 Posted September 3, 2023 #205 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: I don’t have a problem with sports having more events than others, so long as they are unique enough to warrant inclusion. People complain about windsurfing and kite-sailing being added in sailing, but they do offer something pretty different from the standard dingy events. Same with lightweight rowing or coastal rowing. Personally, I think it comes down to how athlete quotas are utilized. The IOC has really lacked innovation in this space. You can only limit entries so much before the Olympics starts to lose universality, competitive fields, and general appeal. There needs to be more thought put into policies that affect athlete quotas. windsurfing is OK, it's Kite that has nothing to do with sailing (and it's also a poor double of windsurfing in terms of format and action) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,204 Posted September 3, 2023 #206 Share Posted September 3, 2023 17 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said: I think is lock for cricket. They finished top 8 in the most recent WC and also have qualified for ODI WC. Nordic countries host a lot of international cricket and have a stadiums too. Denmark has even played at WC before. no way, both in terms of people's recognition and also of results (in Baseball, are an established "big team", world champions in the last tournament without the MLB/NPB Pros, twice in the top 4 of the WBC, with almost all the best MLB/NPB Pros) even the infrastructures...Baseball's are way more present and developed in the Country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noorderling29 139 Posted September 3, 2023 #207 Share Posted September 3, 2023 As I stated yesterday, baseball is played in schools, cricket is not. There are several Dutch/Antillian players in the Major Leagues, whose results are reported whereas cricketers are unknown. Baseball gets airtime, cricket very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,298 Posted September 3, 2023 #208 Share Posted September 3, 2023 7 hours ago, De_Gambassi said: Honestly, there is little you can do with the current cap of 10,500 athletes and the olympic program as it is. You can tweek it a bit, but really, just a bit. Pretty much, the IOC continued adding more events without increase athlete quotas. Based on the Olympics of the 90s we really should be at the 11,500 - 12,000 athlete range. iran2016, Olympian1010 and Josh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fly_like_a_don 995 Posted September 3, 2023 #209 Share Posted September 3, 2023 An Indian news channel interviewed Thomas Bach who said cricket could be part of future games, but to have it in 2028 would depend on organizing committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 2,331 Posted September 4, 2023 Author #210 Share Posted September 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Fly_like_a_don said: An Indian news channel interviewed Thomas Bach who said cricket could be part of future games, but to have it in 2028 would depend on organizing committee. Link to an article from the news station: https://www.cnbctv18.com/sports/crickets-olympic-return-in-sight-as-ioc-president-thomas-bach-gives-thumbs-up-17703241.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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