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Yes, they sjould be excluded too - but It was a belorussian pair in C2W. I think, i will prepare separate table for belorussians.

IMPORTANT! Final decisions by the IOC are in the FIRST post of the topic. ------------------- 1. This list contains AIN`s atheltes with russian passports which "qualified" for Paris - 2024. (Belorussians are not included yet) 2. As well as possible reallocation and the reason to reallocate quota. 3. I have created this separate thread ( @pluto asked it) to keep all the information together because now it is spread over different sports and must not be mixed with the general war-supporters thread. Here we have only the persons whose profiles will be evaluated by the IOC as a single institution to decide their fate. 4. The reasons of reallocation were taken from the official documents prepared by Ukraine for the IOC. update 01.06.24 - Bach ensured Ukraine that all these facts will be taken into consideration - the most recent quote on this from Olena Hovorova (Olympic medallist, now advisor of the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine) - 25.05.24 https://www.facebook.com/olenagovorovakyiv/posts/122149886438205596?ref=embed_post (Earlier - Olha Saladukha (London bronze medallist and deputy of Ukrainian parliament) . Since quota distribution and reallocation are the processes of great interest everyone will be able to evaluate possibility of reallocation of the certain quota. Please, feel free to correct possible reallocations. The list to be ammended with new data to come. People in bold are 99% likely to be removed from the games, in my oppinion. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo Participation in pro-war rally Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia Archaia Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg José Daniel Díaz Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 kg Mercy Genesis Liked post in support of Putin 24.02.24 Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki Likes in social networks * as for me, this would not be enough for the IOC... yet Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina Hrushyna Training camp at the occupied territories of Ukraine Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Mariana Cherdivara Liked pro-war post in social network Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska Member of the Cental Sport Club of Army Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Kim Da-hyun Participation in war-propaganda tournament Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Iuri Lomadze Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Exauce Mukubu Participation in war-propaganda tournament Pro-war likes in social networks Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi Liked Z post in social networks Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Ray Rahi (?) Crowfunding campaing for russian army Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Armed forces, ensign Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia Participation in pro-war event Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI Teams of AIN`s are not allowed Note on the statement, that quotas goes to the NOC but not the athlete: AIN`s represnt themselves only but not NOC, so all their quotas are by name, futhermore ROC is suspended. I do not want to create unnecessary expectations with thsese possible reallocations. We know that Bach can decide it his way. But of course, each NOC should defend its athletes and their chances to go to the Olympics. Update 06.06.24. Judo Russians announced their squad for the Olympic games in Paris including 12 people. They did it before the qualification dedaline so the rankings are not finalized and it is to early to predict possible quotas transfer to ceretain athletes. Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC Reasons to reallocate Judo TASOEV Inal M100+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Pro-war activities in social networks Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey M100 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail M90 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo ARBUZOV Timur M81 ? ? Judo LAVRENTEV Danil M73 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo CHOPANOV Murad M66 ? ? Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan M60 ? ? Judo STARTSEVA Elis W78+ ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina W70 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Photos with Z Propaganda event involving children from the occupied territories of Ukraine Judo LILUASHVILI Dali W63 ? ? Participation in pro-war event featuring Z-symbols and propaganda Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria W57 ? ? Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina W48 ? ? Links to the source documents (the text have english versions at the bottom): Canoe, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24802/ Wrestling 1, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24732/ Wrestling 2, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24843/ Taekwondo, Ministry of youth and sport of Ukraine, Russian taekwondo athletes contracted with military structures Trampoline, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24666/ Judo, NOC of Ukraine: https://noc-ukr.org/news/24760/

Official update according to the IOC statement on the 15th of June https://olympics.com/ioc/paris-2024-individual-neutral-athletes Short notes from the IOC statement: 1. Decisions to reject quotas are final. 2. Decisions to approve quotas are not final - new facts may lead to the rejection of invitation. 3. Decisions cannot be appealed - NOCs were not invited to the Games, so it is a good will to invite individual athletes... or not 4. Unused quotas will be reallocated to another NOCs (not to be sunstituted by another AINs). Empty lines in the IOC Decision column means no decision yet. Reallocation to another NOC means that IF has to reallocate this quota to another NOC (not AIN) according to the IOC decision. The most probable reallocation is mentioned in the table. Here we have russians - belorussians below Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Wrestling Zaur Uguev Men's freestyle 57 kg Meirambek Kartbay AIN - Nachin MONGUSH [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Shamil Mamedov Men's freestyle 65 kg Maxim Saculţan AIN - Shamil MAMEDOV [11] Reallocated to Wrestling Zaurbek Sidakov Men's freestyle 74 kg Lu Feng ** Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Naifonov Men's freestyle 86 kg Vasyl Mykhailov AIN - Arslan BAGAEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Alikhan Zhabrailov Men's freestyle 97 kg Illia ARCHAIA** Reallocated to Wrestling Abdulla Kurbanov Men's freestyle 125 kg Oleksandr Khotsianivskyi AIN - Abdulla KURBANOV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Nadezhda Sokolova Women's freestyle 50 k Gabija DILYTE** Reallocated to Wrestling Natalia Malysheva Women's freestyle 53 kg Annika WENDLE AIN - Natalya MALYSHEVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Olga Khoroshavtseva Women's freestyle 57 kg Khongorzul BOLDSAIKHAN **** AIN - Veronika CHUMIKOVA (rejected by the athlete) Reallocated to Wrestling Alina Kasabieva Women's freestyle 62 kg Ameline DOUARRE AIN - Alina KASABIEVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Khanum Velieva Women's freestyle 68 kg Manola Skobelska AIN - Elizaveta PETLIAKOVA [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Sadyk Lalaev Men's Greco-Roman 60 kg Razvan ARNAUT Reallocated to ****** Wrestling Sergey Kutuzov Men's Greco-Roman 77 kg Kamal Ameer BEY Reallocated to Wrestling Milad Alirzaev Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Turpal Bisultanov AIN - Alan OSTAEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Artur Sargsian Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Lucas Lazogianis AIN - Magomed MURTAZALIEV [9] Reallocated to Wrestling Sergey Semenov Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Georgi IVANOV** Reallocated to Taekwondo Maksim Khramtsov Men's –80 kg Stefan Takov Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Vladislav Larin Men's +80 kg Nikita Rafalovich Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Tatiana Minina Women's –57 kg Dominika Hronová Reallocated to *** Taekwondo Polina Khan Women's +67 kg Marlene Jahl Reallocation to another NOC Trampoline Iana Lebedeva Women's Sofia Correia AIN - Anzhela BLADTCEVA Canoe Sprint Alexey KOROVASHKOV Ivan SHTYL C2 Men 500m Aleksander KITEWSKI Arsen SLIWINSKI AIN - Alexey KOROVASHKOV Zakhar PETROV Cycling Tamara DRONOVA Road - AIN - Tamara DRONOVA Cycling Alena IVANCHENKO Road - AIN - Alena IVANCHENKO Cycling Alexandr VLASOV Road - AIN - Alexandr VLASOV - declined by athlete AIN - Gleb SYRITSA Judo GILIAZOVA Sabina Women's -48kg ??? ??? AIN - DUDINA Kristina [8] Reallocated to Judo KURBONMAMADOVA Daria Women's -57 Shukurjon Aminova Reallocated to Judo LILUASHVILI Dali Women's -63kg Krystyna Homan (W78+) AIN - LILUASHVILI Dali [8] Reallocated to Judo TAIMAZOVA Madina Women's -70kg Tais Pina Reallocated to Judo STARTSEVA Elis Women's +78kg Moira Morillo AIN - STARTSEVA Elis [8] Reallocated to Judo ABDULAEV Ramazan Men's -60kg Andrea Carlino Reallocated to Judo CHOPANOV Murad Men's -66kg Muhammed Demiral Reallocated to Judo LAVRENTEV Danil Men's -73kg STODOLSKI Adam AIN - Makhmadbek MAKHMADBEKOV [8] Reallocated to Judo ARBUZOV Timur Men's -81kg Achraf Moutti AIN - KARAPETYAN David [8] Reallocated to Judo IGOLNIKOV Mikhail Men's -90kg Eduard Trippel AIN - LORSANOV Mansur [8] Reallocated to Judo KANIKOVSKIY Matvey Men's -100kg Zsombor Veg Reallocated to Judo TASOEV Inal Men's +100kg Enej Marinic AIN - Valerii ENDOVITSKII [8] Reallocated to belorussians: Sports Athlete(s) Discipline Possible Reallocation NOC IOC Decision + IF reallocation if happened Cycling Hanna TSERAKH Road AIN - Hanna TSERAKH Trampoline Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Women's AIN - Viyaleta BARDZILOUSKAYA Trampoline Ivan LITVINOVICH Men's AIN - Ivan LITVINOVICH Taekwondo Georgi Gurtsiev 58 kg Lev Korneev Reallocated to *** Weightlifting Siuzanna VALODZKA W71kg MIRABAL FERIA Yeniuska CUB AIN - Siuzanna VALODZKA Weightlifting Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU M102kg DEHDAR Reza IRI AIN - Yauheni TSIKHANTSOU Weightlifting ASAYONAK Petr M89kg SANTAVY Boady Robert Reallocated to Weightlifting ZIAZIULIN Eduard M102+kg Kamil Kucera Reallocated to Wrestling Aryan Tsiutryn Men's freestyle 57 kg Vladimir EGOROV Reallocated to Wrestling Mahamedkhabib Kadzimahamedau Men's freestyle 74 kg Frank Chamizo AIN - Yahor AKULICH [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Aliaksandr Hushtyn Men's freestyle 97 kg Radu LEFTER AIN - Uladzislau KAZLOU [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Dzianis Khramiankou Men's freestyle 125 kg Kamil Tomasz KOSCIOLEK Reallocated to Wrestling Kiryl Maskevich Men's Greco-Roman 87 kg Lasha GOBADZE Reallocated to Wrestling Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Men's Greco-Roman 97 kg Mihail KAJAIA AIN - Abubakar KHASLAKHANAU Wrestling Pavel Hlinchuk Men's Greco-Roman 130 kg Heiki Nabi AIN - Dzmitri ZARUBSKI [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Vanesa Kaladzinskaya Women's freestyle 53 kg Maria Prevolaraki AIN - Viyaleta REBIKAVA [7] Reallocated to Wrestling Iryna Kurachkina Women's freestyle 57 kg Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA Reallocated to Wrestling Veranika Ivanova Women's freestyle 62 kg Johanna LINDBORG AIN - Krystsina SAZYKINA [7] Reallocated to Shooting Uladzislau Dzemesh Men`s Air Pistol 10m Yusuf Dikeç Reallocated to [10] Pentathlon Mariya Gnedtchik Women`s individual Veronika NOVOTNA Reallocated to Pentathlon Anastasiya Prokopenko Women`s individual Anna JURT Reallocated to Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Men's single Taro Daniel Reallocated to [10] Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Women's single Anna Schmiedlová Reallocated to [10] Tennis Several athletes declined invitations Women's single Camila Osorio Reallocated to [10] Reallocation in judo calculate by @Cinnamon Bun is in the separate post Reallocation in wrestling by UWW https://uww.org/article/uww-reallocates-16-olympic-games-paris-2024-quotas Remarks: * - quota should go to JO Seongbin but has selected its maximum number of participant and it is unlikely that IWF or NF will revise that selecion. Thanks to @Jan Linha and @phelps ** - important precedent was found by @Faramir to show alternative way of reallocation supported by @Art Art: a) at a single tournament - quota goes to the first eligible athlete at the tournament where it was won by AIN, not taking into account those who won quotas later b) chronologocally - tournament by tournament - with cascading redistribution of quotas, taking into account those who won quotas later and redistributing their quotas from later tournaments. These alternative ways are show in the table only for the quotas determined to the reallocation by the IOC. *** - thanks for @mard0n , @MantaRaymarc , @Jan Linha @Майкл. It looks to be the first reallocations confirmed by NOCs **** - Alina HRUSHYNA AKOBIIA has priority for this reallocation but she has another reallocation spot from European qualifier which took place earlier ****** - confirmed by NF according to @IoNuTzZ [7] - the IOC invited the athlete, but the quota was rejected by the NOC of belarus https://wrestling.by/news/lish-odin-belorusskij-borecz-primet-uchastie-na-olimpiade [8] - quota declined by russian judo federation. Waiting for official confirmation [9] - quota was accepted but later declined by russian wrestling federation. Waiting for official confirmation of rejection from each athlete [10] - https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/27489-ain-athletes-qualification-for-paris-2024-olympic-games-and-reallocation-of-quotas-post1-updated-0907/?do=findComment&comment=645061 [11] - initially accepted but declined after the reallocation deadline

Ok )

Yes those were not allowed to compete. Those who "qualified" will sent to the IOC by the international federations. And the IOC`s commission will decide the fate of every single person. There are a lot of them. If you are interested in I will create a list of athletes with possible reallocations.

Some "subtotal" for performance 5 athletes proceed to the final 2 days. 1 will have 2 chances to get license. We are doing much better. "Return of the King" Sosnovsky (the coach of that famous 2011-2012 team) was a good decision but too late to get more. Even with all the problems we could have 7 atheltes in 2 final days: + Zamotayev (he was very good yesterday against Quiroga but today his right eye was closed since the first round after a heads-hit - he managed to get 2:2 at the scorecards but lost on a margin) + Zakhareev (robbery which... cannot be appealed. The story continues - it turned out that the IOC as the organizer did not bother itself to establish appeal procedure. Anyway the tournament continued and the quotas here will be distributed, so the only way - to prove that the rights of athletes were violated because of the absence of the proper appeal procedure. We will see) Abduraimov - in the SF - according to Sosnovsky - he is the next big star, and I trust him. He impressed here and could be a medal contender in Paris... if he gets license. Lovchynsky - still in the competition but with low chances. The same for Molochko - I am afraid. Kob - you may not be aware of the fact, that the coaches decided to send another athlete. Kob wrote about this intention in social networks claiming that she won direct bout with that alternate. After that she was returned to the squad. And did very well in the first bout against very strong opponent. Still on the road. Kovalchuk - won against Ferchichi but her real power is still unknown. I am not sure if she will be able to win the next bout.

According to the recent communication form our deputy Olena Hovorova - Bach ensured her, that all the proofs provided by Ukraine will be taken into account. Several athletes like Sadulaev, Uguev, Batsarashkina were ruled out. More to follow. In judo this process will take place later since their dedaline is one of the latest.

Bach

According to the rules of ICF country can get only 2 athlete quotas at the continental qualifier fro Men`s Canoe (as well as Women`s canoe and e.t.c.). Thus despite of the fact that they "won" C1 and C2 quotas they cannot get all 3 athelet quotas. That is absolutely for sure and confirmed by the ICF. So, they should decide - to get C1 or C2 (by the way in Paris C2 members may both start in C1). The other boat will be reallocated to the next country at the European qualifier. That is definitely will happen. *** Then. ICF has its own strange rules and do not consider C2 as a "team". But this rules are only applied to the ICF competitions. The IOC has its own rules and clearly stated that russians will participate as AINs - Individual Neutral Athletes. Thus the IOC has no reasons to allow C2 to compete and according to the logic of its own rules must reallocate this quota. But! That is Bach and he can do what he wants. So we have to wait for a word from the IOC. P.S. It is notable, that European qualifier took place many days ago but the ICF have not update quotas list yet.

Yes, Parma was really strong and won a trpophy against Antwerpen. I think, that the cornerstone of that good old football was the rule, that no more than 3 foreign players can be at the field at the same time in one team. That made more teams really competitive.

Herojam Slava! I think it is a moment to unite all the coubtry! Interseting list. I have never seen it. By the way, can we add one more country - Czechoslovakia ?

Any news on the reallocation? June is coming ))

I liked that Fiorentina squad - with Batistuta and Rui Costa. That was one of my favorite teams in Serie A. But they did not win the title too (((

Yes, that`s why I wrote that I am not satisfied with text. Our federation is simply in chaos last years. @dodge I would like to apologize to Irish friends for that incorrect statements in the appeal. They should focus on the actions of referee and on the scores given by judges but not on the opponent. Of course the IOC has got enough from boxing recently, but my main hope (not a huge one) - they will revise referee`s actions.

So the appeal officially filed. I must say I am not satisfied with the text of the appeal. They mixed a lot here and some parts of the text are too emotional for the official document as well as some allegations. But in general it shows the strategy: it is unlikely to change the scores from judges, but it is more likely to overturn referee`s decisions. The chances are low but bigger than zero.

My congratulations! Greece had a long way to this victory! (I best remember that chance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC-2OZ7q9OM) It must be a holiday for a whole country today!

Great job - doing so detailed analysis. Lovchynsy won / Khartsyz lost - that were that 50/50 bouts. No problem with that. Your point about styles stresses the most fundumental problem of amateur boxing - no clear clriteria for scores. That makes nonsense of this sport - since any unfair decision can be justified easily. I strongly believe this decision is unfair. But it is obvious and normal that we cannot agree on this. About W54. I do not think Kovalchuk is good enough right now. And I will not be satisfied if our girl will get win not because of her merits but as a compensation of Zakhareev` lost. We have seen it many times - when one injustice is beeing fixed with another injustice. As it was in London 2012 - when Khytrov was robbed to get medal for hosts and then Vastin was robbed to give us another medal instead of Khytov`s one. I hate this way of doing business by International Federations. So I prefer us winning appeal (i do kot know if any other appeals were filed at all) - but not getting that ugly "compensations". I understand that the chances are low, but we have that experience with Lomachenko and may be some ref`s decisions can be revised or something else. Anyway, that is good that the next bout in that weight is not tomorrow.

Yes, I agree on the statement judges. By the way, what are the rules of the appeals at this tournament? It is organized by the IOC not World Boxing or AIBA. As far as I remember earlier the scores from judges could not be appealed. But the actions of referee could be appealed. At the OG-2008 qualifying tournament (WCH) we used that rule to reinstate Lomachenko. He "lost" at the early stage, but was reinstated and won the tournament. I am asking because our NOC is preparing an appeal to revise the bout - it is official information. By the way the scores: and by round by judge J1 - 9:10 - 10:9 - 10:9 J2 - 9:10 - 10:9 - 9:10 J3 - 10:9 - 9:10 - 10:9 J4 - 10:9 - 10:9 - 9:10 J5 - 9:10 - 9:10 - 9:10

Did you watch Walsh - Zakhareev? (By the way, I do not think angles were so important there). Our federation did all they can to broadcast all the bouts of our boxers, but that bout we have from another source.

It is a question with no answer, I am afraid (( Our girls in Air Rifle are clearly not good enough for years - may be it is a question of selection? Girls were more interested in pistol or... in other sports.

Finaly a quota for us . Congratulations for And I think is safe via rankings too. We have 6 quoats - exactly the same number as for 2020. And again no shotgun for men and air rifle for women.

Thank you for watching video and writing this. I appreciate your evaluation and remark on styles. And of course, scoring system is awfull. Of course we are biased, and you see close bout and I see clear robbery with Zakhareev. @Fly_like_a_don as a neutral specatator says Zakhareev won all three rounds.

We got it, no problem ) I was trying to be funny too and created that screenshot of your complaining ) If I complain every time when our boxer lose website would require a new harddisk to save all that posts )) It is not a problem to be funny when your boxer loses because he is just worse than the opponent, but when he was not worse it is another case.

By the Way IOC killed IBA. National federations who will not leave IBA must be excluded by the NOCs.

Really? And I supported you there, ah...