Oldira

5 minutes ago, Benolympique said:

49er :

After 12 Races

 

  58 pts

  102 pts

  107 pts

 

Qualified ?

Not yet but for some Reason BEL did not contest race 12.

31 minutes ago, Dolby said:

Overall. You qualify an athlete in any event, through any means (ranking, competition, tripartite or even reallocation), you are ineligible for any more reallocations.

And the reallocations are done based on World Rankings? 

19 hours ago, Dolby said:

All reallocations will go to NOC with no qualified shooters. 

In the same event or overall?

8 minutes ago, dodge said:

I don’t know exactly but I suspect the same. 
 

3 more races each over the next 2 days (if weather allows) and a medal race on Friday

 

The opening news story on the official site said ‘about 18’ races but I think that was based on 6 days of 3 races rather than 5 of 3 and a single medal race

I think it’s 17 races. 3 tomorrow and thursday, one fleet race on Friday and then the medal race. 

30 minutes ago, Dolby said:

As far as I remember Aoife Gormally is competing here

She's not listed on the Start List for Pre event training tomorrow.

1 hour ago, Fly_like_a_don said:

No no trap event is not done here depends on what is the position of the best unqualified shooter here

Thanks. Its likely that CYPRUS,KUWAIT OR TURKEY will pad IRELAND this week in Delhi.  Strange that Aoife Gormally did not compete there.

I am not on expert on Shooting at all but looking at the Womens Trap it would seem that POLAND will get the World Ranking Spot and that IRELAND should get the reallocation spot?

If anyone could help it would be appreciated.

21 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

 

Japan is in a lose-lose situation pretty much. Their government has invested so much into the Games that cancelling them would be a major economic waste. However, holding them without fans in some capacity will also be an economic disaster since they won’t get a return to their investment.

Rio had 410,000 foreign visitors for the Olympics. Given the distances involved its unlikely Tokyo would have many more. If each spent 5000 dollars that about 2 billion and given the size of Japans economy that's nothing major. Irelands tourist loss alone for 2020 is more than that and we are 1/30 the size of Japan.

Its not ideal but still not a catastrophe.  

3 minutes ago, JoshMartini007 said:

The qualification formats themselves will likely remain the same, just with different dates for events or cut-off for world rankings.

 

There might be an option to increase quotas in some sports to allow athletes that greatly improve over the year to qualify, but couldn't due to their sport completing the qualification period. Though I feel that's unlikely or the quotas will be given in rare circumstances

I think thats highly unlikely as its still the 2020 Olympics not the 2021 Olympics. obviously some atlethes and swimmers will improve in the next year and make the time but theres no legislating for that.

23 hours ago, call me matt said:

This also means we will get changed qualification systems for all sports and enjoy this whole process for another year at least something good...

It will be the same qualification process surely? Just events and tournaments not held in 2020 are held in 2021. All rankings will be frozen until 2021. Anyone who has already qualifies remains qualified. Seems only fair way.

17 hours ago, Federer91 said:

Every athlete who's doping ban ends in 2020.  

Its still going to be the '2020' Olympics so all criteria will be the same. If you are ineligible for 2020 that will carry forward. All qualifying event due between March 2020 and June 2020 will simply be rescheduled to the same periods in 2021. Anyone qualified remains qualified. Only fair way.

Similar was done in Golf for the 2001 Ryder Cup which was postponed until 2002 (9/11). The teams picked for 2001 played in 2002 regardless of how their form etc had changed since 2001.

All rankings etc need to be frozen now until March 2021.

11 hours ago, heywoodu said:

Yeah, not exactly surprising from the country of leprechauns

Our jockeys are also the best in the world. 

11 hours ago, dodge said:

Yeah there’s been a few Nevins on the scene

 

With an OK draw I’d expect Nevin and Walker to qualify. Harrington and O’Rourke on the women side

 

others might need a bit of luck 

would hope Irvine and Walsh x2 would be close. Think we will ge5 a most 4 men over the two qualifying tournaments but could also get 4 women. We look weak in the men’s heavier weights 

https://www.scmp.com/sport/hong-kong/article/3074447/tokyo-2020-agony-hong-kongs-cyclists-their-olympic-spot-snatched

Looks like Ireland are confirmed as qualifying in the Mens Madison. Tough on Hong Kong but am delighted for our lads.

5 minutes ago, dodge said:

UCI have changed the rankings for men's madison. Ireland now above Honk Kong and into the last qualifying spot

 

They haven't changed the women's rankings

5 minutes ago, dodge said:

 

 

I think UCI have to inform the NOCs by Monday of their quota allocation. Fingers crossed no more changes.

23 hours ago, Oldira said:

Even the Hong Kong Cycling Federation and the local press there believed that Hong Kong had missed out on both Madison qualifications!!

 

 

South China Morning Post now has it that both their Madison teams have qualified. It looks to me that Ireland hadnt their sums done correctly on Sunday when declaring they had qualified. Very hard on Downey and English. How disappointed must they be today?

Not sure how the Ukrainian women are feelling as Hong Kong had 800 points added to their total based on the 2019 World Championships!!

Even the Hong Kong Cycling Federation and the local press there believed that Hong Kong had missed out on both Madison qualifications!!

12 minutes ago, dodge said:

Presume they’re waiting on official word from UCI

 

The changes are even more stark in the women’s madison so regardless of the Irish involvement, it will need explaining

Very True. Utterly heratbreaking though for Englis and Downey.

17 minutes ago, dodge said:

The awarding of points was known. They just awarded them more than in previous years, and retrospectively changed the results for previous years too.

 

As I said above, Last week Ukraine were ranked ahead of HK, then finished ahead of them at the World Championships and are now ranked below them

 

The *Only* explanation for this is that the points for previous races were changed.  

Last Week Hong Kong were on 5680, Portugal on 5210 and Ireland on 5200. Ireland came 11th in Final and therefore got 2 x 615= 1230 bringing them to 6430. Hong Kong came joint 16th and were awarded 2 x 390 bringing them to 6460. On Sunday I saw provisional results which had Hong Kong getting 2 x 360 as in 17th and last as they went out before the USA. This would be wrong according to my reading of the rules.

Then again Rules 2 and 3 which I quoted above seem totally contradictory.

The slence from Irish Cycling is worrying though.  

2 hours ago, dodge said:

As of 3 March 2020...

 

53 quotas earned in 11 different sports

 

Sports with quotas earned in alphabetical order:

 

Athletics - 7

 

• Ciara Mageean (1,500m)
• Alex Wright (20k walk)
• Brendan Boyce (50k walk)
• Fionnuala McCormack (marathon)
• Paul Pollock (marathon)
• Stephen Scullion (marathon)
• Kevin Seaward (marathon)

 

Others that would get place by virtue of their current ranking would be Thomas Barr, Mark English and Phil Healy. Big spring ahead for them and some others

 

Canoeing - Slalom - 1

 

• Liam Jegou (men's C1)

 

Ireland are unlikely to qualify any more boats in canoeing with our best sprint canoeist being Jenny Egan who specializes in longer (non-Olympic) distances. Robert Hendrick qualified the boat but Liam Jegou won the selection.

 

Cycling - Road - 3

 

• Men's Road race (3 quotas)
• Men's ITT (1 quota)

 

With several riders at world tour level, the fight for Olympic spots will be on next year.

 

Cycling - Track - 4

 

• Men's madison (2 quotas) + Omnium
• Women's madison (2 quotas) + Omnium

 

With both madison crews qualifying, Ire;and will have it's largest track cycling team since qualification began. Mark Downey and Felix English look set for the mens team. The womens team could be any 2 from Lydia Boylan, Lydia Gurley, Shannon McCurley or Emily Kay

 

Equestrian - 9

 

• Eventing (team with 3 individuals)
• Dressage(team with 3 individuals)
• Show jumping (team and 3 individuals)

 

Finally a full Irish quota!

 

Gymnastics (artistic) - 1

 

• Rhys McClenaghan

 

Rhys's bronze medal performance in the pommel final at the world championships was enough to earn him a spot. Megan Smith is first reserve on the womens side

 

Field Hockey - 16

 

• Women's team

 

The women's team have qualified for the first time. Could they repeat their amazing World Cup medal winning performance from 2018?

 

Modern Pentathlon - 1

 

• Natalya Coyle

 

Natalya will be hoping for her third top 10 placing in the Olympics in Tokyo. Arthur Lannigan O'Keefe could medal if everything goes right but he struggled with injuries. He finished 3rd in the opening world cup of the year

 

Rowing - 7

 

• Women's Single sculls - w1x
• Women's pair - w2-
• Men's double sculls - m2x
• Men's lightweightt double sculls - lm2x

 

Whoever is with Paul O'Donovan in the lightweight double sculls will be a medal favourite in Tokyo. Paul has won the last two world championships, one with his Rio medal winning brother Gary and the other with newcomer Fintan McCarthy. Sanita Puspure is double world champion and only injury or horrendous luck will stop her from medaling in Tokyo. The men's double won silver this year and are improving all the time. Ireland will try and qualify a women's 4 next year.

 

Sailing - 1

 

• Laser Radial

 

Aisling Kelleher won the quota but Rio medalist Annalise Murphy has dropped her 49er FX plans to try and get in the Radial boat for Tokyo. The 49er crew and a couple of Laser individuals have one more shot at qualifying this year.

 

Swimming - 2

 

• Darragh Greene (100m, 200m breast)
• Shane Ryan (100m back)

 

Irish swimming is one of the only sports that have stricter rules than the IOC for qualifying so neither of these may actually go. Greene achieved his time at the worlds so has to get close to it at the Irish nationals in 2020 to validate it. Everyone else, including Ryan, has to earn the OQT at the Irish nationals. Brendan Hyland and Mona McSharry look the two most likely to add to the team in individual events but swimmimg Ireland is aiming to bring a 4x100m medley relay team and is currently OK in the ranks

 

Taekwondo - 1

 

• Jack Woolley

 

After being so close in 2016, Jack qualified through the olympic rankings and is consistently in the top 10 in the world.

 

Likely/possible quotas in these sports

 

Badminton

Nhat Nguyen is currently in a rankings spot. The mixed doubles of Sam and Chloe Magee are outside the top 16 but may sneak in. 

 

Boxing

Traditionally our strongest Olympic sport. Ireland will be hoping to have at least 8 of the 13 quotas available. Our women's team is particularly strong and they'll hope to win medals next year. The European qualifiers start in March

 

Diving

Oliver Dingley and Clare Cryan have hopes for this year through the world cup series.

 

Golf

Ireland will qualify 4 for golf next year with McIlroy and Lowry being medal contenders on their day in the men's. Leona Maguire and Stephanie Meadow will go in the women's event

 

Judo

We currently have 2 judoka in ranking positions; Ben Fletcher and Megan Fletcher. Nathan Burns is just outside the cut off in the rankings

 

 

Triathlon

Russell White and Carolyn Hayes are our best hope of qualifying for Tokyo and both are just inside the quota spots at the moment.  Hayes was 6th at the European Championships in May and is a relative newcomer to the sport. She'll easily shoot up the rankings list with performances like that. The ranking period ends in May 2020.

 

 

 

 

I would be very hopeful that we can break the 80 mark for the team but a lot depends on how many qualify in Athletics. Currently we have 6 people inside the rankings but that will change when the competition gets serious later in the year. Sadly the Magees have fallen dow the rankings badly since Autumn and from being inside the qualifying mark have now 3 or 4 countries ahead of them.

The big issue now is how many qualification events are going to fall to the Corona virus.

6 hours ago, Laraja said:

 

try this link. I don't know if that's what you are looking for.

thanks for that. 

Hi Folks. Can anyone direct me to the current Olympic Qualification Rankings for the Swimming relays? I cant find them on the FINA website.

Thanks

On 27/01/2020 at 11:16, dodge said:

when the new rankings come out, it would be really helpful if someone who knows the intricacies of the UCI track ranking could do up a little preview of the World Championship and what possible qualification scenarios exist
 

I realize it's probably far too much work though!

Even if just for the Mens and Womens Madison and Omnium.

1 hour ago, dodge said:

 

Just to be clear, I meant that they had everything the needed to qualify

 

I wasn't suggesting there was anything untoward

 

Happy to see Woolley qualify as he was very close to doing so for Rio

There will be a few Europeans happy he has qualified. He would have been top seed at the European qualifiers.