Dolby

On 9/6/2023 at 6:18 PM, hckošice said:

Yeah, but not going to fall in this trap again, so I am not going to post anything in this topic

 

I was already "educated" here quite hardly last year that this is not cricket as I always thought, so it was enough for me

 

I think I have tried to help you (or someone else) in the past. Croquet with a Q is played by Queen of Hearts. Cricket with an I is played by Indians. 

Saikhom Mirabai Chanu in group D with an entry total of 60kg.  Either there is a mistake in entry or she is just going to meet minimum tournament requirements. These examples show what a mockery the present qualification system is. 

P.S.: Out of 6 Indians, 3 have entry totals of 60kg. Really looking forward to following the tournament. 

1 hour ago, Olympian1010 said:

Yeah, the last elections shook stuff up.

It’s notable since they are still a member of CIS. They are the only member besides Ukraine that hasn’t attended the CIS Games or University Sports Festival in Russia.

 

Its unfortunate many BRICS and SCO members haven’t followed their lead on this.

There are literally 5 members in BRICS: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. South Africa is not participating. So, instead of using BRICS, it would be better if we are honest and say "Why are Brazil, India and China participating?" Also, it would help us in asking the same question to other countries participating like Argentina, Mexico, Thailand and NATO member Turkey. 

But once we do that, we might realize that participation in these games mean nothing. Majority of the nations don't even care for the official Univerity Games, let alone Russian version of University games. Russian authorities would have approached some Universities from these countries and invited them. These universities sees it as a good opportunity to brag that their athletes represented the nations and won medals at an international event. Russia gets to brag that they got so much participation. And media gets to scare monger NATO vs BRICS/SCO like Allies vs Axis. And I find it really hilarious because except some China shrills, BRICS is considered a dead option in India. Majority of security establishment considers China as an enemy and Quad as future. And regarding Indian pariticpation in SCO, the running joke is that just as Pak was in SAARC to ensure nothing gets done there, India is in SCO to ensure nothing gets done. 

1 minute ago, EselTheDonkey said:

Each country can win only one quota per event: So the quota places go to  ,  ,  and  .

Ohh yes forgot this rule. 

1 minute ago, EselTheDonkey said:

Why isn't there a shoot-off for the final qualification places in Men's Air Pistol?: Result 10m Air Pistol Men (issf-sports.org)

 

I followed the qualification in live scoring, and there definitely hasn't been one. Vasermanis  was at once listed as not qualified, even though he has a score of 582, just like several athletes above him.

 

Not that I mind, because with Vasermanis out of the final, it means Robin Walter finally won the long deserved quota place. But I still don't understand it.

There are no shoot-offs. Vasemanis  misses out on inner tens. And, I don't think Robin has won the quota. (two different athletes) fighting for 4 quotas. 

Finalists for 10m Air Pistol: 

 Bowen Zhang

Robin Walter

 Jason Solari

Damir Mikec 

Kiril Kirov

 Junhui Liu

Ismail Keles

Samuil Donkov

There are 4 quota places on offer.  and  are ineligible for quota and  already has one quota. So,  already has one quota. 

10 minutes ago, Rafa Maciel said:

Can I ask, as a cricket fan, what you would argue that T20 would bring to the Olympics? At the moment, the only argument I've seen for its inclusion is the increased revenue from broadcast rights in India. 

My views on Cricket in Olympics:

What irks me everytime Cricket comes up is the scorn of some of the users. Just because you don't like a sport doesn't mean the sport is boring. I mean people here give running commentary on 50km Walk and still find T20 long and boring? There have been literally users who have said Cricket doesn't even deserve to have a World Cup as it is not global enough. And at the same time, no one has a problem with sports which are played only in Europe + USA/Canada. 

56 minutes ago, hckošice said:

I admit, I have zero idea about cricket

(zero and half let say about field hockey - I really tried to watch it, trust me, but did not appeal me, sorry found it extremely slow, messy and incredibly unnecessarily long (both the pitch and the play time) to my taste)

the only thing I noticed about Cricket is the crazy long amount of time needed for a game, quite hard to understand how this is even considered to be at the OG, while in all other sports the different federations are inventing how to shorten the events to fit with the new "lack-of-attention-generation" aimed by the IOC... but ok. Look, I have nothing against Cricket, If they want and wish, Ok, no issue bro.Go ahead and add it to the games, play a whole month if you want... but do not sacrify other more traditional and more Olympic fitting sports/quotas because of that..

 

Yes, I know, I can imagine viewers in India, where the sport is super popular will not have problem to watch it.. I just doubt it will be the same in the other parts of the world though... Personally I would even prefer more that Kabadi thing that have more Olympic potential to attract attention worldwidely than ... cricket.

 

Personally, I don't think Cricket at Olympics much sense. But, it is not because of it being boring or crazy long game. A T20 game lasts only about 3 hours including mid-inning break. I am sure a baseball game is longer than that. Regarding sacrificing more Olympic fitting sports/quota, all of us are seeing it in the wrong way. We see it as Cricket/Breaking/Surfing etc. replacing more traditional and more Olympic fitting sports. Reality is those sports are losing out no matter what. They will be dropped unless they can get more eyeballs/money. The question is how long can they survive and who replaces them. 

From Indian medal point of view, Kabbadi in Olympics is better than cricket but Kabbadi is not even in the same league as Cricket. 

And do give Cricket a chance. Try to watch it in the upcoming Asian Games. I remember the apprehension (even scorn) a number of users here had regarding Kabbadi before watching it. 

2 hours ago, hckošice said:

Cricket ? oh man.. Do they really want bore the audiences to sleep... They already have Field Hockey for that

Tell me you have zero idea about cricket (or field hockey) without telling me you have zero idea about cricket (or field hockey). 

On 7/23/2023 at 10:53 AM, Olympian1010 said:

I’m certainly not the authority on what is and isn’t appropriate conduct for a team trainer, but doing a gesture identified with white nationalism doesn’t seem like an unreasonable place to a draw a line.
 

Also, if he didn’t mean it in that context, he could have put out a statement in conjunction with the team in response to the photo. The situation would have likely been resolved at that point. The article doesn’t mention such an action.
 

In terms of your second hypotheticals, I wouldn’t run around naming my kids after white nationalists or confederate generals, so I guess I would have some questions for people who do. 

 

 

Don't know anything about the person in question. But, onus of proof should not be on him. He shouldn't have to prove that he is not white nationalist. It is the other side that has to prove that he is a white nationalist. 

There is some confusion regarding the "Race to Paris" Ranking published by BWF as it is not counting Sudirman Cup. It is odd that they are missing it.

Regarding host quota, France is guaranteed a place each in MS and WS. 

On 6/29/2023 at 11:24 AM, hckošice said:

I feel honored. I assume it is my first mention in the wikipedia world

Can you please link a proper source? 

Yesterday, Imran Khan, ex-PM of Pakistan was arrested. Since then, his supporters have indulged in arson and rioting in quite a few places. They even stormed GHQ in Rawalpindi. Expecting Army reprisal to be brutal. Biggest questions are will Asim Munir impose martial law and take direct control or allow Shehbaz Sharif to continue as PM and will Imran survive this (not only politically but literally as well)? 

There is a very small possibility that Imran does have enough support both nationally and in overseas Pakistani community to force Army to negotiation table. 

Interestingly, in this power play, the ruling government has no role. 

2 hours ago, Olympian1010 said:

2023 World Press Freedom Index has been released. 
 

 

I fully agree that Press Freedom in India (161) is similar to Belarus (157), Russia (164), Turkey (165), Yemen (168) and Saudi Arabia (170). And situation is much better in Belarus (157), Pakistan (150), Libya (149) and Sudan (148). And I wish our government can take pointers on how to improve the ranking score from Afghanistan who improved their score from 38.27 to 39.75. 

On 2/6/2023 at 1:09 PM, Dolby said:

Good: The crackdown. Bad: So many child marriages took place in the first place. Ugly: Knowledge that this legitimate action would be used to attack government. 

As I had suspected. 
 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-64564861

Regarding clean athletes: 

Though the decision to allow certain athletes has been controversial from beginning, it was more or less a settled question. So, if IOC wants to ban even those athletes who were allowed in previous athletes, it needs new reason. Ukraine war, new findings in state sponsored doping, or something else. 

Regarding state sponsored doping:

The way I see it the difference between doping and state sponsored doping is the role of national coaches and federations. 

Level 1: Doping happens inspite of NFs. NFs fail to properly educate, find and prosecute the dopers.

Level 2: NFs turn a blind eye to doping. 

Level 3: NFs encourage/take part in doping. 

Personally, I think majority of NFs are in mix of level 1 and level 2 and only a small portion of them are in level 3. IOC's case for banning Russia was that it is among the few who were in Level 3. Personally speaking, I think more and more NFs need to move from Level 2 to Level 1 to make a big dent in doping. 

P.S.: As far as India is concerned, I think almost all federations would be placed in Level 2. Situation is improving but still a lot of work needs to be done. 

9 hours ago, Wanderer said:

Again, the doping scandals are going for too long and if they want to ban them "without mixing the politics" then  ban Russia for some time because of the doping. This way it just gonna be a hot mess. 

But if IOC wants to continue ban on Russia for doping, it should continue to allow "Clean athletes" to compete under IOC flag. And what about Belarus? 

29 minutes ago, hckošice said:

which is exaxtly what I was asking myself, how they came up with the idea everyone will be ok with it. Works on both sides.

 

Certainly no, despite what my posts may suggest, I am not in favor of mixing politics and olympics. However, Russia has already so many valid reasons to be baned, the exposed doping program (which is itself alone a reason to ban a country from competing, however they still somehow managed to escape by being allowed to enter neutral ROC called teams, in Rio they even competed in some sports except athletics as Russia). However, now, a completely unjustified, terrorist invasion of a neighboring sovereign country plus during the Olympic truce is a bit too much. moreover, Putin is still continuing this senseless criminal war and showing the whole world that he does not give a fuck about the rest of the world and how many innocent people (including athletes and from both sides) will die, just because he is a moronic ego-maniac everyone is afraid to degrade.

 

You probably don´t see it that way, but we have a lot of experience with Russian "friendly help and liberation actions, in 1968 they successfully saved us from the danger of bread and butter. An invasion they still did not apology for...we are 2023!" and how Russian propaganda works. sport is the main weapon. if gold iare won, everything is OK, the nation will be satisfied, because Putin arranged golds to the masters of the universe, that´s how it worked(s) in the former ussr´s way of thinking.

 

Definitely no. and I hope it will never happen. and that you will never had the reason to even thinking about doing it. And I am one of the few who really wants India hosting the Olympics.

You see this is the issue. For you Russia is the bad guy. For India, Pakistan is the bad guy. For Pakistan, India is the bad guy. For Iran, Israel is the bad guy. For Taiwan, China is the bad guy. 

I don't think not mixing politics and sports is possible. There should be consequences for one's actions. One cannot force Ukrainian athletes to compete against Russians. But, the same respect should be given to others as well.