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    dcmdtruefan reacted to phelps in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    for those who are interested (especially in the Western World), the OTT service MeWatch from  has 3 live channels and full ondemand content available (with English commentary)
     
    Free registration is necessary, as also a  VPN
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to clemsonbeav in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Qualification Calendar   
    This question isn't directly related to qualifying for LA28, but is mostly to help me wrap my mind around each sport federation's calendar.
     
    I think all Winter Sports straddle two different years (i.e. seasons start in 2025 and finish in 2026).  Most Summer Sports have their annual season in one calendar year (like Sport Climbing has its annual World Cup that starts around April and finishes around October of each year).  But some sports are different.  Squash has its start of each season in around August and it finishes the next calendar year.
     
    Are there other Summer sports like Squash that have their season with a similar calendar, straddling two different years?
     
    Sports that I'm already aware of that do this
    Squash
    Softball
    Rugby Sevens
    Fencing
     
    Others?
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to clemsonbeav in Summer Olympic Games Los Angeles 2028 Qualification Calendar   
    Thank you.  Yes, sorry, my original list could have been clearer (fixing it now).  That list was a list of sports I already knew had a season that straddled two years.  I was wondering if there were others that I hadn't listed.
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to Griff88 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    I think business as usual, because we are not mining medals in swimming and athletics. At best we could be third on the medal tally.
     
    Our aquatics federation did a lot of preparation compared to previous editions, let's see how they fare against Singapore and Vietnam. Athletics held training camp in Japan and Kenya. In badminton we only send the best young athletes, but people expect Thailand to dominate as they send all their world class players (as you might expect from a host).
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to Griff88 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    Same thing happened to the sport climbing, the Indonesian Olympians are not joining, so we send junior athletes instead (which has better times than most Southeast Asian climbers anyway). The Indonesian Sport Climbing Federation president said that "there are pressure to ensure we do not include our top athletes".
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from Gianlu33 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    As I have stated earlier I would write up my SEA Games predictions for the Olympic sport events. Here is my detalied predictions with the name of the country winning in each of the 262 Olympic events hosted in LA 2028 and 5 weighlifting events hosted in Paris 2024   Total: Thailand 90, Singapore 50, Vietnam 47, Indonesia 33, Philippines 24, Malaysia 20, Cambodia 2

     Aquatics-Artistic Swimming (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1

     W: Duet: Singapore; MX: Team: Thailand

     

    Aquatics-Diving (3): Malaysia 2, Thailand 1

     Men: 3 m Springboard: Thailand, Synchronized 3 m: Malaysia

     Women: Synchronized 10 m: Malaysia

     
    Aquatics-Swimming (40): Singapore 24, Vietnam 6, Philippines 4, Thailand 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1

     Men: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Singapore, 200 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 400 m Freestyle: Malaysia, 1,500 m Freestyle: Vietnam, 50 m Backstroke: Singapore, 100 m Backstroke: Singapore, 200 m Backstroke: Singapore, 50 m Breaststroke: Indonesia, 100 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 200 m Breaststroke: Vietnam, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 400 m Individual Medley: Vietnam, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Vietnam

     Women: 50 m Freestyle: Singapore, 100 m Freestyle: Philippines, 200 m Freestyle: Singapore, 400 m Freestyle: Singapore, 800 m Freestyle: Singapore, 50 m Backstroke: Philippines, 100 m Backstroke: Philippines, 200 m Backstroke: Philippines, 50 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 100 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 200 m Breaststroke: Singapore, 50 m Butterfly: Singapore, 100 m Butterfly: Singapore, 200 m Butterfly: Thailand, 200 m Individual Medley: Singapore, 400 m Individual Medley: Thailand, 4 x 100 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 200 m Freestyle Relay: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Medley Relay: Singapore, 10 km Open Water: Singapore

     
    Aquatics-Water Polo (2): Singapore 1, Thailand 1

     Men’s Team: Singapore; Women’s Team: Thailand

      Archery (6): Indonesia 4, Vietnam 1

     
    Men: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia

    Women: Olympic Recurve Individual: Indonesia, Olympic Recurve Team: Indonesia

     Mixed: Olympic Recurve Team: Vietnam, Olympic Compound Team: Indonesia

     
    Athletics (47): Thailand 15, Vietnam 15, Indonesia 7, Philippines 4, Singapore 4, Malaysia 2

     Men: 100 m: Thailand, 200 m: Thailand, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Malaysia, 1,500 m: Thailand, 5,000 m: Thailand, 10,000 m: Thailand, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 110 m Hurdles: Singapore, 400 m Hurdles: Singapore, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Indonesia, High Jump: Thailand, Pole Vault: Philippines, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Thailand, Shot Put: Philippines, Discus Throw: Malaysia, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Indonesia, Decathlon: Thailand

     Women: 100 m: Singapore, 200 m: Singapore, 400 m: Vietnam, 800 m: Vietnam, 1,500 m: Vietnam, 5,000 m: Vietnam, 10,000 m: Indonesia, 3,000 m Steeplechase: Vietnam, 100 m Hurdles: Indonesia, 400 m Hurdles: Philippines, 4 x 100 m Relay: Thailand, 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam, Marathon: Indonesia, 20 km Walk: Vietnam, High Jump: Vietnam, Pole Vault: Indonesia, Long Jump: Vietnam, Triple Jump: Vietnam, Shot Put: Thailand, Discus Throw: Thailand, Hammer Throw: Thailand, Javelin Throw: Thailand, Heptathlon: Philippines

     MX: 4 x 400 m Relay: Vietnam
        Badminton (5): Malaysia 2, Thailand 2, Indonesia 1

     Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Malaysia, Women’s Doubles: Malaysia, Mixed Doubles: Thailand

     
    Basketball (2): Philippines 2

    Men’s Team: Philippines, Women’s Team: Philippines

      Basketball 3x3 (2): Philippines 1, Thailand 1

     Men’s 3x3 Team: Philippines, Women’s 3x3 Team: Thailand

     
    Boxing (11): Thailand 7, Philippines 4

    Men: -57 kg (-55 kg): Philippines, -60 kg: Thailand, -63.5 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -69 kg (-70 kg): Thailand, -80 kg: Philippines

     Women: -50 kg (-51 kg): Thailand, -54 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Thailand, -60 kg: Philippines, -66 kg (-65 kg): Thailand, -70 kg: Philippines

     
    Canoeing (5): Thailand 4, Vietnam 1

     Men: Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand

     Women: Sprint: C2 500 m: Vietnam; Slalom: C1: Thailand, K1: Thailand

     
    Cycling (8): Thailand 5, Malaysia 3

     Men: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand, Team Sprint: Malaysia, Team Pursuit: Malaysia, Keirin: Malaysia, BMX: Thailand

     Women: Road Race: Thailand, Time Trial: Thailand

     
    Equestrian (6): Thailand 5, Philippines 1

     Mixed: Dressage Individual: Philippines, Dressage Team: Thailand, Eventing Individual: Thailand, Eventing Team: Thailand, Show Jumping Individual: Thailand, Show Jumping Team: Thailand

      Fencing (12): Singapore 9, Philippines 1, Thailand 1, Cambodia 1

     Men: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Philippines, Sabre Individual: Thailand, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore;

     Women: Eppe Individual: Singapore, Foil Individual: Cambodia, Sabre Individual: Singapore, Eppe Team: Singapore, Foil Team: Singapore, Sabre Team: Singapore

     
    Field Hockey (2): Malaysia 2

     Men’s Team: Malaysia, Women’s Team: Malaysia

      Football (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1

    Men’s Team: Thailand, Women’s Team: Vietnam

     
    Golf (2): Thailand 2

    Men’s Individual: Thailand, Women’s Individual: Thailand

     
    Gymnastics (12): Vietnam 4, Singapore 2, Thailand 2, Malaysia 2, Philippines 1, Indonesia 1

     Men: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Pommel Horse: Vietnam, Rings: Vietnam, Vault: Philippines, Parallel Bars: Vietnam, Horizontal Bar: Indonesia

     Women: Floor Exercise: Thailand, Vault: Vietnam, Uneven Bars: Malaysia, Balance Beam: Singapore, Rhythmic All-Around: Singapore, Rhythmic Group: Malaysia;


    Handball (2): Thailand 1, Vietnam 1

    Men’s Team: Thailand; Women’s Team: Vietnam

     
    Judo (9): Thailand 6, Vietnam 2, Philippines 1

     Men: -73 kg: Thailand, -81 kg: Thailand, -90 kg: Vietnam, -100 kg: Philippines

     Women: -57 kg: Vietnam, -70 kg: Thailand, -78 kg: Thailand, +78 kg: Thailand  

     Mixed: Team: Thailand

     
    Rowing (7): Vietnam 3, Thailand 2, Indonesia 2

     Men: Single Sculls: Indonesia, Double Sculls: Indonesia, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand

     Women: Double Sculls: Vietnam, Quadruple Sculls: Vietnam, Fours: Vietnam, Coastal Single Sculls: Thailand   

     
    Rugby (2): Thailand 2

    Men’s Sevens: Thailand, Women’s Sevens: Thailand

     
    Sailing (7): Thailand 5, Singapore 2

     Men: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 7: Singapore, Kiteboarding: Singapore  

     Women: iqFoil: Thailand, ICLA 6: Thailand, Kiteboarding: Thailand

     Mixed: 470: Thailand

     
    Shooting (13): Thailand 4, Vietnam 3, Singapore 3, Malaysia 2, Indonesia 1

     Men: Rifle 3x 40: Thailand, Air Pistol: Malaysia, 25 m Rapid Fire Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Singapore, Skeet: Malaysia

     Women: Air Rifle: Thailand, Rifle 3x 40: Singapore, Air Pistol: Vietnam, 25 m Pistol: Vietnam, Trap: Thailand, Skeet: Thailand

     Mixed: Air Rifle Team: Singapore, Air Pistol Team: Indonesia

     
    Skateboarding (4): Indonesia 2, Thailand 1, Philippines 1

     Men: Street: Indonesia, Park: Philippines

     Women: Street: Thailand, Park: Indonesia

     
    Sport Climbing (6): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2, Singapore 1

     Men: Bouldering: Thailand, Lead: Thailand, Speed: Indonesia

     Women: Bouldering: Singapore, Lead: Indonesia, Speed: Indonesia

     
    Table Tennis (5): Singapore 3, Thailand 2

    Men’s Singles: Singapore, Women’s Singles: Thailand, Men’s Doubles: Singapore, Women’s Doubles: Thailand, Mixed Doubles: Singapore

      Taekwondo (8): Thailand 5, Vietnam 3

     Men: -58 kg: Thailand, -68 kg: Thailand, -80 kg: Thailand, -87 kg (+80 kg): Thailand

     Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -57 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Vietnam, -73 kg (+67 kg): Vietnam

     
    Tennis (5): Indonesia 3, Thailand 2

    Men’s Singles: Thailand, Women’s Singles: Indonesia, Men’s Doubles: Thailand, Women’s Doubles: Indonesia, Mixed Doubles: Indonesia

     
    Triathlon (3): Indonesia 3

    Men’s Individual: Indonesia, Women’s Individual: Indonesia, Mixed Relay Team: Indonesia

     
    Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1  

    Men’s Team: Indonesia, Women’s Team: Thailand

     
    Beach Volleyball (2): Indonesia 1, Thailand 1

    Men’s Beach: Indonesia, Women’s Beach: Thailand
        Weightlifting (5): Thailand 4, Philippines 1

     Men: -61 kg: Thailand, -73 kg: Thailand

     Women: -49 kg: Thailand, -59 kg: Thailand, -71 kg: Philippines

     
    Wrestling (12): Vietnam 7, Indonesia 3, Philippines 1, Cambodia 1

     Men's Freestyle: -57 kg: Philippines, -65 kg: Vietnam, -74 kg: Vietnam, -86 kg: Cambodia

    Men's Greco-Roman: -60 kg: Vietnam, -67 kg: Indonesia, -77 kg: Indonesia, -87 kg: Indonesia

    Women's Freestyle: -50 kg: Vietnam, -53 kg: Vietnam, -57 kg: Vietnam, -62 kg: Vietnam
        Baseball & Softball (2): Philippines 2

    Men’s Baseball: Philippines, Women’s Softball: Philippines

     
    Cricket (2): Malaysia 1, Thailand 1

     Men’s T20: Malaysia, Women’s T20: Thailand

     
    Squash (2): Malaysia 2

    Men’s Singles: Malaysia, Women’s Singles: Malaysia   Most of my predictions were made in combination of factors of performances in international competitions in 2025 as well as in the 2024 Olympics and the lastest SEA Games. Some sports that I don't have enough information to go by such as Judo or Wrestling has forced to make those predictions with a less than 50 percent certainty.  

    About 2-3 months ago, I would have guess that Thailand's numbers would be nearer to 80 rather than 90 as their quality in major Olympic Sports (i.e. Athletics, Swimming, Shooting, Gymnastics) have declined over the past decade or so. According to my predictions, despite such struggles, Thailand's overall quality in other Olympic Sports is enough to paper through the cracks in the development of its Olympic sports program. It would be an embarassment to myself at least if Thailand is not able to win the gold medal count in either of the four major Olympic sports.   Singapore would finish second due to its enormous strength in swmming as well as improving in athletics, gymnastics and shooting. I wouldn't expect Vietnam to win only 47 Olympic events as it has dominated the Olympic events count for the past three editions, but their lack of adequate funding may explain the reason of their potential underperformance in these predictions.    Malaysia, Indonesia and Philippines all have lower numbers of expected Olympic events won in this year's edition as they are impacted by the number of Olympic events that was cut from the SEA Games, especially in gymnastics, cycling, canoeing and rowing.    If I have the time in the enxt week or so before the games begins, I will preview some of the key Olympic Sports hosted at Thailand with some highlights of interesting events and likely rising stars. And of course, at the end of the games, we will look back at how accurate my predictions are.   
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from PHI2019 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    It is a shame that a stupid rule has chased away who is likely considered to be the best world class Southeast Asian athlete within the Olympic Sports. 
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to PHI2019 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    This is why the Southeast Asian Games has become a joke to me. Just because one country has a dominant gymnast on the world stage doesn’t give the host country the right  to limit him or her to just one event at the Games. And it isn’t just in one sport. Look at diving. They limit the number of events there to stop the Malaysians from winning more gold medals. Maybe it’s time the decisions to add or scrap events and to determine how many events one gets to take part in be taken away from the host country. 
     
    https://www.abs-cbn.com/sports/othersports/2025/10/17/sea-games-restrictions-to-limit-carlos-yulo-to-one-apparatus-gap-president-0048
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from clemsonbeav in Team USA - LA28   
    I think one of the best ways to keep on track of American athletes is to look at their performances in world championships in Olympic sports as well as their world rankings in comparison to the rest of the world before the 2028 Olympics. This will be a nice way of analyzing the amount of medals that we (Team USA) can win come LA 2028.  
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from Gianlu33 in Southeast Asian Games 2025   
    My analysis of the Olympic events hosted in the 2025 SEA Games has three parts and two posts, so please bear with me. 
     
    In terms of the percentage of hosted Olympic events, the 76.07 percentage is the highest since the 2011 SEA games that was hosted in Indonesia, but still not as high as when Thailand last hosted the SEA Games in 2007. Here is the list of SEA Games and percentage of hosted Olympic events as caculated vis-a-vis the total amount of the preceding Olympic Games since 1991 (i.e. 2022 and 2023 sEA Games editions and thier hosted Olympic events will be counted as a percentage of the total amount of events hosted in the 2024 Olympics as it falls under the 2024 Cycle):
     
    1991 Philippines: 175/256 events hosted (68.36 %). 17/25 sports hosted.
    1993 Singapore: 175/271 events hosted (64.58 %). 18/26 sports hosted
    1995 Thailand: 195/271 events hosted (71.96 %). 19/26 sports hosted.
    1997 Indonesia: 248/295 events hosted (84.07 %). 23/28 sports hosted.
    1999 Brunei: 123/300 events hosted (41 %). 12/28 sports hosted.
    2001 Malaysia: 231/302 events hosted (76.49 %). 21/28 sports hosted.
    2003 Vietnam: 234/302 events hosted (77.74 %). 21/28 sports hosted.
    2005 Philippines: 231/302 events hosted (76.49 %). 24/28 sports hosted.
    2007 Thailand: 253/302 events hosted (83.77 %). 27/28 sports hosted.
    2009 Laos: 175/302 events hosted (57.95 %). 15/26 sports hosted.
    2011 Indonesia: 252/302 events hosted (83.44 %). 22/26 sports hosted.
    2013 Myanmar: 201/306 events hosted (65.69 %). 21/28 sports hosted.
    2015 Singapore: 215/306 events hosted (70.26 %). 24/28 sports hosted.
    2017 Malaysia: 207/340 events hosted (60.88 %). 24/33 sports hosted.
    2019 Philippines: 230/339 events hosted (67.85 %). 29/33 sports hosted.
    2022 Vietnam: 234/329 events hosted (71.12 %). 23/32 sports hosted.
    2023 Cambodia: 193/329 events hosted (58.67 %). 21/32 sports hosted.
    2025 Thailand: 267/351 events hosted (76.07 %). 33/36 sports hosted.
     
    The 76.07 percentage of the 2025 edition fells short of the 2007 edition that Thailand last hosted as well as the 1997 and 2011 editions in Indonesia. Since 2011, the percentage of Olympic hosted events never gets above 80 percent. These figures pales in comparison to the Asian Games, which usually hovers around 90 percent:
     
    1990 China: 229/256 events hosted (89.45 %). 22/25 sports hosted
    1994 Japan: 245/271 events hosted (90.41 %). 26/26 sports hosted
    1998 Thailand: 261/300 events hosted (87 %). 26/28 sports hosted
    2002 South Korea: 280/302 events hosted (92.72 %). 27/28 sports hosted
    2006 Qatar: 269/302 events hosted (89.07 %). 27/28 sports hosted
    2010 China: 285/302 events hosted (94.37 %). 26/26 sports hosted
    2014 South Korea: 287/306 events hosted (93.79 %). 28/28 sports hosted
    2018 Indonesia: 321/340 events hosted (94.41%). 32/33 sports hosted
    2023 China: 318/329 events hosted (96.66%). 31/32 sports hosted
    2026 Japan: 325/351 events hosted (92.59%). 34/36 sports hosted
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from MHSN in Asian Games 2026   
    Thank you for the link. I don't know what is up with the secrecy of OCA and the Asian sports federations. Does a little bit of transparecy hurt them that much? 
     
    I wished I have the google search/SEO skills or the people connections that you have. Thank you again for your great work. 
     
    If I have time in the next week or so, I will write about the number of 2028 Olympics events in the 2026 Asian Games and how it compares to the percentage of Olympic events hosted in previous Asian Games editions.   
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to MHSN in Asian Games 2026   
    yeah OCA technical handbooks are usually super secret. not easy to find online I got some of them through people I know by email, BUT I have good news, you can find all of them now in one place here. special thanks to TPE NOC.
     
    the number of teams is obviously mentioned in the handbooks.
     
    as for the qualification methods, some of them are in the handbooks, I also found couple more (Water Polo for example) from our national federations news channel.
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    dcmdtruefan reacted to MHSN in Asian Games 2026   
    based on what I read on the handbooks, for the first time we have restrictions on the number of teams in team sports. this is what I found (not necessarily 100% accurate)
     
    as we know in half of these sports only a few countries register to participate. probably even less than that quota number. but it will be a big deal in some sports and will deny some weaker countries to participate. 
     
    OCA was playing with this idea for a while and applied it in couple of sports in Hangzhou. this is the right thing to do, still not perfect but better than nothing, nobody wants to see Afghanistan women's volleyball team or Maldives women's handball team in the Games.
     
    actually having a qualification method somehow encourages average/above-average teams to participate. 
     
    Water polo / 8 men + 6 women
    apparently the Asian Aquatics Championship in India will act as the qualifier
     
    Baseball / 8 men
    top 8 from Asian ranking of 31 December 2025
     
    Softball / 8 women
    apparently top 8 from the 2025 Asian Cup in China
     
    Basketball / 12 men + 12 women
    top 12 from the FIBA Asia Ranking (date not mentioned)
     
    3x3 Basketball / 16 men + 16 women
    top 16 of FIBA 3x3 National Federations Ranking for U23 category (date not mentioned)
     
    Cricket / 10 men + 8 women (not official)
    officially everything is a TBD, but other official  sources claims those numbers, most probably based on the T20 ranking.
     
    Football / TBD
     
    Handball / 12 men + 8 women
    no qualification method mentioned, I also couldn't find anything from the other sources, I assume the latest Asian Championship will play a role here.
     
    Field Hockey / TBD
    apparently everything will be decided by FIH. but the initial schedule is set for 12 teams in each gender's competition. Hockey usually had separate qualification tournaments in past.
     
    Kabaddi
    apparently there is no limitation on the number of teams in this sport, it seems they do not expect more than 12 teams in each gender.
     
    Rugby / 12 men + 8 women
    no qualification method mentioned
     
    Volleyball / 16 men + 16 women
    no qualification method mentioned
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from Noorderling29 in The biggest Paris 2024 medal chances for NOCs where users are not very active here :-)   
    As someone of Thai heritage who was born and lives in the US who has been following Thai sports, I think I can give a good summary of what hopes they have in Paris 2024. I think if you have to analyze Thailand's medal aspirations for next year's Olympics, you have to put them in 3 tiers: 1. Does that are gold medal contenders, 2. Does who are minor medal contenders, but can also be darkhorse gold medal contenders, and 3). Those who have the ability to be in the top 8 of their event and have an outsider's chance of a medal:
     
    Tier 1: Gold medal contenders
     
    1. Panipak Wongpattanakit (Women's Taekwondo, -49 kg): I think it's obvious what she is top of the list. In Thailand's history, there's no amateur athlete who is as consistent as her. Thus, she is still the best gold medal that they have. However, she's at best a slight favorite in her category as she has been beaten by Turkish and Mexican athletes in the two recent world championships, although she's still very unbeatable in the world grand prix  competitions. The biggest challenge to her defense of 2020 championship is not necessary the quality of her opponents, but maintaining her physical fitness until July 2024 as she has been dealing with some nagging knee injuries for the past year. According to her, she opted out from a knee surgery until the end of Paris 2024 because it will take her several months to recover and she wouldn't be able to be ready for the Olympics. 
     
    2. Kunlavut Vitidsarn (Badminton, Men's Singles): The main reasons why Vitidsarn is number 2 in this list are 1). He is the regining world champion and 2). His talent and technical ability is in the elite tier in his event. However, those who may hope for him to be successful next summer must be cautious in placing their hopes in him as he struggles to maintain his physical fitness to an optimal level. Since winning the world championship in August, Vitidsarn's performance have been sub-par. He was eliminated in the round of 16 in the recent Asian Games and has been eliminated in the perliminary round of his two recent world tour competitions in Finland and Denmark. While some can point out to the grueling international tournament schedule as the key reason of his physical struggles, IMO, I believe most of this has to do with his playing style, which is defensive and counter-attack oriented that causes to play most of his matches for more than an hour in average as the lack of effectiveness of the physical/sports science program at his club, Banthongyord, as Thailand is lacking behind countries such China, Japan and Korea in that area. I also think his coaches have not been able to find a tactic to counter the schemes that others have used in dealing with Vitidsarn's strengths and weaknesses. 
     
    In an ideal world, I would like Vitidsarn to have the ability to hire a foreign fitness coach as well as a badminton coach from a well-renowned country in the sport to help him as I don't think the Thai mindset and training/tactical methodologies are good enough to push him any further. But since his camp will unlikely to admit such faults, the best that I could hope is for him to maintain peak physical condition come Paris 2024. Due to the very competitive scene in the men's singles, I could see Vitidsarn's performance in Paris having a hige variance from being anywhere from winning the gold medal, to failing to be in the podium or even being knocked out in the permliminary rounds. The fact that Thailand has never won a medal in the sport would be added pressure for him to win a medal, and Thais usually don't do well in dealing with pressure. 
     
    Tier 2-Minor medal contenders, darkhorse gold medal contenders:
     
    1. Weightlifting- (Men's 73 kg-Weeraphon Wichuma, Women's +81 kg-Duangsakorn Chaidee, Men's 61 kg-Theerapong Silachai, Women's 49 kg-Thanyathorn Sukcharoen).
     
    The first two in this list can be gold medal contenders and are almost certain to win a medal next year. Weeraphon is this year's world champion and is number two in the Olympic qualification list. He lost to the number one guy in the list from Indonesia at the Asian Games by about 8 kilograms. There is enough time from now until Paris to catch up with the Indonesian, but to win the gold medal, he has to work on his clean and jerk lift in order to win gold. Duangsakorn's performance in 2022 would have been good enough to guarantee a bronze next year. But it seems like she hasn't done well this year for not lifting more than 280+ kg. If she can go 290 kg without doping, then she can at least win the silver. The other two are good enough to win a bronze, but nothing more than that as they don't the ability to beat the Chinese lifters in their weight category.
     
    2. Boxing - (Men's 51 kg-Thitisarn Panmot, Women's 54 kg-Jutamas Jitpong, Women's 50 kg-Chutamat Raksat, Women's 66 kg- Janjaem Suwannaphaeng)
     
    While there is no Thai boxer who I consider to be a gold medal contender, a several of them have proven to be worthy of medal contention for their perfomances at they year's Worlds and Asian Games. Among these four in the list, I consider Suwannaphaeng and Panmot to be darkhorses to win gold. Suwannaphaeng won silver at both the worlds and Asian Games and from what I heard from Thai webboards, she could have beaten the Chinese world champion if their contest was held at a neutral site. Panmot is known for being more dynamic and has more offense than the typical Thai amateur boxer who genrally relies on counter attacking punches. He made the quarters in the worlds and won silver at the Asain Games. If he can be improve his fitness from this year as he is coming back from an ACL injury prior to the 2021 Olympics, he might have a chance to beat the Uzbekistani world champion. The other two are good enough to win bronze in Paris, but would need to show more to have a chance to win gold. 
     
    3. Banlung Tubtimdang- (Men's Taekwondo-58 kg???/-68 kg?????)
     
    Tubtimdang won the silver in the worlds and gold at the Asian Games in the -63 kg category. As the -63 kg event is not in the Olympics, he has to chose whether he will try to qualify for the -58 kg event or -68 kg event. If he chooses the -58 kg, he will likely to be a notable medal contender due to his height and skillset and can be a darkhouse gold medal threat. The question is not about whether he is good enough because as some may see him in the Asian games, he has elite tier athleticism and talent, but it is about whether he has the desire and discipline to power his weight and compete in the -58 kg event where he would have a notable height and physical advantage over the competition. 
     
    4. Atthaya Thitikul (Women's Golf)
     
    Thitikul was the number one player in the world for a good portion of 2022 before having a slight decline and now is currently the 12th ranked player in the world. Despite not winning any championships as of late, she usually makes or is near the top 10 of most of her tournaments. She definitley has elite talent and has an opportunity to win a medal pending on her form during next summer as well as the how well can she adapt to the conditions of the course that will be used for the Olympics. 
     
    Tier 3-Outsiders chance of winning a medal
     
    1. Boxing (Men's 63.5 kg, Women's 75 kg)
     
    There are other notable athletes that has proven to have performances that is worthy of being a medal contenter like the former world champions in badminton mixed doubles of Dechapol and Sapsiree, Skeet shooter Sutiya Jiewchaloemmit, former world champion in women's singles in badminton, Ratchanok Intanon for instance. But the reason that they and others are not included in my list because they either has past their peak and not currently good enough to compete for a medal or don't have the consistency to be counted on to win a medal.
     
    Overall, I think the medal target to at least show some improvement from 2021 is to win 2 gold medals and to have an overall of around 4-6 medals. Personally, I think Thailand could slightly improve from how they did in Tokyo, but I can also see them failing to win any gold medals and may have a subpar performance of winning no more than 3 overall medals. The reason that I am vary about Thailand's performance in Paris is that Thai athletes in general don't handle pressure well. I think it has to do with the cultural aspect of Thais not liking to be working in high pressured environments that has contributed to such problem. I also think the fact that the country is lagging in its sport science development is the factor of why their athletes don't have the stamina and endurance that other countries do. Hence, Thailand does not have the level of success in terms of Olympic medals that other B-tier Asian countries like Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Chinese Taipei or India have. It doesn't help that their sport administration capabilities is hundered by a bunch of politicians, social elites and bureaucrats coming into such positions and not implementing policies that advances the sport industry.     
        
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    As someone of Thai heritage who was born and lives in the US who has been following Thai sports, I think I can give a good summary of what hopes they have in Paris 2024. I think if you have to analyze Thailand's medal aspirations for next year's Olympics, you have to put them in 3 tiers: 1. Does that are gold medal contenders, 2. Does who are minor medal contenders, but can also be darkhorse gold medal contenders, and 3). Those who have the ability to be in the top 8 of their event and have an outsider's chance of a medal:
     
    Tier 1: Gold medal contenders
     
    1. Panipak Wongpattanakit (Women's Taekwondo, -49 kg): I think it's obvious what she is top of the list. In Thailand's history, there's no amateur athlete who is as consistent as her. Thus, she is still the best gold medal that they have. However, she's at best a slight favorite in her category as she has been beaten by Turkish and Mexican athletes in the two recent world championships, although she's still very unbeatable in the world grand prix  competitions. The biggest challenge to her defense of 2020 championship is not necessary the quality of her opponents, but maintaining her physical fitness until July 2024 as she has been dealing with some nagging knee injuries for the past year. According to her, she opted out from a knee surgery until the end of Paris 2024 because it will take her several months to recover and she wouldn't be able to be ready for the Olympics. 
     
    2. Kunlavut Vitidsarn (Badminton, Men's Singles): The main reasons why Vitidsarn is number 2 in this list are 1). He is the regining world champion and 2). His talent and technical ability is in the elite tier in his event. However, those who may hope for him to be successful next summer must be cautious in placing their hopes in him as he struggles to maintain his physical fitness to an optimal level. Since winning the world championship in August, Vitidsarn's performance have been sub-par. He was eliminated in the round of 16 in the recent Asian Games and has been eliminated in the perliminary round of his two recent world tour competitions in Finland and Denmark. While some can point out to the grueling international tournament schedule as the key reason of his physical struggles, IMO, I believe most of this has to do with his playing style, which is defensive and counter-attack oriented that causes to play most of his matches for more than an hour in average as the lack of effectiveness of the physical/sports science program at his club, Banthongyord, as Thailand is lacking behind countries such China, Japan and Korea in that area. I also think his coaches have not been able to find a tactic to counter the schemes that others have used in dealing with Vitidsarn's strengths and weaknesses. 
     
    In an ideal world, I would like Vitidsarn to have the ability to hire a foreign fitness coach as well as a badminton coach from a well-renowned country in the sport to help him as I don't think the Thai mindset and training/tactical methodologies are good enough to push him any further. But since his camp will unlikely to admit such faults, the best that I could hope is for him to maintain peak physical condition come Paris 2024. Due to the very competitive scene in the men's singles, I could see Vitidsarn's performance in Paris having a hige variance from being anywhere from winning the gold medal, to failing to be in the podium or even being knocked out in the permliminary rounds. The fact that Thailand has never won a medal in the sport would be added pressure for him to win a medal, and Thais usually don't do well in dealing with pressure. 
     
    Tier 2-Minor medal contenders, darkhorse gold medal contenders:
     
    1. Weightlifting- (Men's 73 kg-Weeraphon Wichuma, Women's +81 kg-Duangsakorn Chaidee, Men's 61 kg-Theerapong Silachai, Women's 49 kg-Thanyathorn Sukcharoen).
     
    The first two in this list can be gold medal contenders and are almost certain to win a medal next year. Weeraphon is this year's world champion and is number two in the Olympic qualification list. He lost to the number one guy in the list from Indonesia at the Asian Games by about 8 kilograms. There is enough time from now until Paris to catch up with the Indonesian, but to win the gold medal, he has to work on his clean and jerk lift in order to win gold. Duangsakorn's performance in 2022 would have been good enough to guarantee a bronze next year. But it seems like she hasn't done well this year for not lifting more than 280+ kg. If she can go 290 kg without doping, then she can at least win the silver. The other two are good enough to win a bronze, but nothing more than that as they don't the ability to beat the Chinese lifters in their weight category.
     
    2. Boxing - (Men's 51 kg-Thitisarn Panmot, Women's 54 kg-Jutamas Jitpong, Women's 50 kg-Chutamat Raksat, Women's 66 kg- Janjaem Suwannaphaeng)
     
    While there is no Thai boxer who I consider to be a gold medal contender, a several of them have proven to be worthy of medal contention for their perfomances at they year's Worlds and Asian Games. Among these four in the list, I consider Suwannaphaeng and Panmot to be darkhorses to win gold. Suwannaphaeng won silver at both the worlds and Asian Games and from what I heard from Thai webboards, she could have beaten the Chinese world champion if their contest was held at a neutral site. Panmot is known for being more dynamic and has more offense than the typical Thai amateur boxer who genrally relies on counter attacking punches. He made the quarters in the worlds and won silver at the Asain Games. If he can be improve his fitness from this year as he is coming back from an ACL injury prior to the 2021 Olympics, he might have a chance to beat the Uzbekistani world champion. The other two are good enough to win bronze in Paris, but would need to show more to have a chance to win gold. 
     
    3. Banlung Tubtimdang- (Men's Taekwondo-58 kg???/-68 kg?????)
     
    Tubtimdang won the silver in the worlds and gold at the Asian Games in the -63 kg category. As the -63 kg event is not in the Olympics, he has to chose whether he will try to qualify for the -58 kg event or -68 kg event. If he chooses the -58 kg, he will likely to be a notable medal contender due to his height and skillset and can be a darkhouse gold medal threat. The question is not about whether he is good enough because as some may see him in the Asian games, he has elite tier athleticism and talent, but it is about whether he has the desire and discipline to power his weight and compete in the -58 kg event where he would have a notable height and physical advantage over the competition. 
     
    4. Atthaya Thitikul (Women's Golf)
     
    Thitikul was the number one player in the world for a good portion of 2022 before having a slight decline and now is currently the 12th ranked player in the world. Despite not winning any championships as of late, she usually makes or is near the top 10 of most of her tournaments. She definitley has elite talent and has an opportunity to win a medal pending on her form during next summer as well as the how well can she adapt to the conditions of the course that will be used for the Olympics. 
     
    Tier 3-Outsiders chance of winning a medal
     
    1. Boxing (Men's 63.5 kg, Women's 75 kg)
     
    There are other notable athletes that has proven to have performances that is worthy of being a medal contenter like the former world champions in badminton mixed doubles of Dechapol and Sapsiree, Skeet shooter Sutiya Jiewchaloemmit, former world champion in women's singles in badminton, Ratchanok Intanon for instance. But the reason that they and others are not included in my list because they either has past their peak and not currently good enough to compete for a medal or don't have the consistency to be counted on to win a medal.
     
    Overall, I think the medal target to at least show some improvement from 2021 is to win 2 gold medals and to have an overall of around 4-6 medals. Personally, I think Thailand could slightly improve from how they did in Tokyo, but I can also see them failing to win any gold medals and may have a subpar performance of winning no more than 3 overall medals. The reason that I am vary about Thailand's performance in Paris is that Thai athletes in general don't handle pressure well. I think it has to do with the cultural aspect of Thais not liking to be working in high pressured environments that has contributed to such problem. I also think the fact that the country is lagging in its sport science development is the factor of why their athletes don't have the stamina and endurance that other countries do. Hence, Thailand does not have the level of success in terms of Olympic medals that other B-tier Asian countries like Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Chinese Taipei or India have. It doesn't help that their sport administration capabilities is hundered by a bunch of politicians, social elites and bureaucrats coming into such positions and not implementing policies that advances the sport industry.     
        
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    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    While we are waiting for the pdf for the full results for each sport. I compiled the Asian Games medal table for the 2024 Olympic events that were contended for this competition. Here is the full medal table: 
    2022 Asian Games Medal Table for 2024 Olympic Events
    1.       China
    144
    88
    57
    289
    2.       Japan
    44
    60
    55
    159
    3.       South    Korea
    23
    40
    51
    114
    4.       Uzbekistan
    15
    13
    23
    51
    5.       India
    12
    26
    30
    68
    6.       Bahrain
    12
    2
    5
    19
    7.      Chinese Taipei
    9
    6
    12
    27
    8.       Iran
    8
    11
    13
    32
    9.       Hong Kong
    7
    10
    19
    36
    10.   North Korea
    6
    10
    8
    24
    11.   Qatar
    5
    5
    2
    12
    12.   Kazakhstan
    4
    12
    38
    54
    13.   Saudi Arabia
    4
    2
    1
    7
    14.   Kyrgyzstan
    4
    1
    5
    10
    15.   Mongolia
    3
    4
    10
    17
    16.   Singapore
    3
    3
    2
    8
    17.   Indonesia
    3
    1
    9
    13
    18.   Thailand
    2
    10
    16
    28
    19.   Kuwait
    2
    2
    2
    6
    20.   Malaysia
    2
    1
    13
    16
    21.   Philippines
    2
    1
    3
    6
    22.   Tajikistan
    2
    1
    2
    5
    23.   UAE
    1
    2
    6
    9
    24.   Vietnam
    1
    1
    7
    9
    25.   Sri Lanka
    1
    1
    2
    4
    26.   Jordan
    0
    3
    0
    3
    27.   Oman
    0
    1
    1
    2
    28.  Turkmenistan
    0
    0
    3
    3
    29.   Iraq
    0
    0
    2
    2
    30.   Afghanistan
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30.   Lebanon
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30     Pakistan
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30     Syria
    0
    0
    1
    1
    Total
    319
    317
    401
    1,037
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    As the person who actually made the medal table, here are the 11 Olympic events that were not competed in Huangzhou:
     
    Canoeing (2): Men's and Women's Kayak Cross events
     
    Cycling (2): Men's and Women's BMX Freestyle
     
    Gymnastics (1): Rhythmic Gymnastics' Group All Around
     
    Surfing (2): Men's and Women's Shortboard
     
    Weightlifting (4): Men's -89 kg and -102 kg categories and women's -71 kg and -81 kg categories. 
     
    I did took the liberties of counting the weighlifting events of the men's +109 kg and women's +87 kg categories to be counted in the Olympic medal events count as the men's +102 kg and women's +81 kg categories as anyone who competes in the +109 kg and +87 kg events are automatically elegible to compete in the +102 kg and +81 kg categories by body weight. 
     
    You don't necessary need to take my medal table as the gospel truth as it is my arbitary way of counting these 318 events as Olympic events. I do these medal counts as one way to measure each country's preparedness for Paris 2024. If you really want a more accurate way of measuring each country's true ability, I suggest to make a live medal count out of the Asian qualification rankings of each event for Paris 2024. Regardless, to me at least, the true medal table count that matters is the 2024 Olympics medal count and the Asian rankings for each event in the 2024 Olympics. 
     
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    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    While we are waiting for the pdf for the full results for each sport. I compiled the Asian Games medal table for the 2024 Olympic events that were contended for this competition. Here is the full medal table: 
    2022 Asian Games Medal Table for 2024 Olympic Events
    1.       China
    144
    88
    57
    289
    2.       Japan
    44
    60
    55
    159
    3.       South    Korea
    23
    40
    51
    114
    4.       Uzbekistan
    15
    13
    23
    51
    5.       India
    12
    26
    30
    68
    6.       Bahrain
    12
    2
    5
    19
    7.      Chinese Taipei
    9
    6
    12
    27
    8.       Iran
    8
    11
    13
    32
    9.       Hong Kong
    7
    10
    19
    36
    10.   North Korea
    6
    10
    8
    24
    11.   Qatar
    5
    5
    2
    12
    12.   Kazakhstan
    4
    12
    38
    54
    13.   Saudi Arabia
    4
    2
    1
    7
    14.   Kyrgyzstan
    4
    1
    5
    10
    15.   Mongolia
    3
    4
    10
    17
    16.   Singapore
    3
    3
    2
    8
    17.   Indonesia
    3
    1
    9
    13
    18.   Thailand
    2
    10
    16
    28
    19.   Kuwait
    2
    2
    2
    6
    20.   Malaysia
    2
    1
    13
    16
    21.   Philippines
    2
    1
    3
    6
    22.   Tajikistan
    2
    1
    2
    5
    23.   UAE
    1
    2
    6
    9
    24.   Vietnam
    1
    1
    7
    9
    25.   Sri Lanka
    1
    1
    2
    4
    26.   Jordan
    0
    3
    0
    3
    27.   Oman
    0
    1
    1
    2
    28.  Turkmenistan
    0
    0
    3
    3
    29.   Iraq
    0
    0
    2
    2
    30.   Afghanistan
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30.   Lebanon
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30     Pakistan
    0
    0
    1
    1
    30     Syria
    0
    0
    1
    1
    Total
    319
    317
    401
    1,037
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from Sindo in Asian Games 2022   
    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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    dcmdtruefan got a reaction from Josh in Asian Games 2022   
    Here are some of the notes that I have regarding the Olympic event medal table:
     
    318 out of the 329 events hosted in Paris 2024 is competed in Huangzhou.  The total gold medal count is 319 due to a two gold medals given in the men's 110 meters Hurdles as Kuwait and Japan both win gold for crossing the finish line at the same time.  South Korea's gold medals in Olympic events has been gradually decreasing since 2010.  Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan have essentially swapped places in the medal table hierarchy. In past editions, it was Kazakhstan that usaully sits in the top 4, while Uzbekistan won an average of around 4-8 Olympic events in in previous Asian Games. Now, the tables have been turned as Uzbekistan have reap the benefits of their improvement in a number of sports, especially in Judo, Rowing, Cycling, Taekwondo, Fencing, etc, while maintaining supremacy in Boxing. Conversely, Kazakhstan have their worst ever performance at an Asian Games since their first participation in 1994.  Another country that is noted for improvement is Hong Kong. I believe that this is the most gold medals that they won in an Asian Games. Having Siobahn Haughey helps, but there are also other sports that they shown to be at an elite level, especially in Fencing, Sailing, Rugby and Rowing. Winning 4th place in men's football doesn't look bad for them as well. India's improvement has to be noted as well. India's pet sports such as Track and Field and Shooting carried them to their best performance in an Asian Games outside of their country. Even that, they could have done even better if their Boxing and Wrestling teams deliver at Huangzhou.  While Southeast Asian countries have shown improvement in Olympic sports, it must be said that their overall performance is still a bit underwheling considering that none of them won more than three Olympic events at Huangzhou, which does not bode well for any of these country's chances to do well in Paris.    While China is the undisputed number one country in Asia, I and I'm sure a number of people here don't believe that the gap between China and Japan is as big as the 144-44 gold medal count indicates. A full squad of A-tier athletes for Japan would have won a range of 70-80 events, while China's true ability should be around 120-135 gold medals in Olympic events.  With that being said, while Japan send B-tier athletes in a number of sports such as Track and Field, Judo, Gymnastics, Skateboarding, Volleyball and Tennis, their A-tier athletes did underachieve in Swimming, Shooting, Table Tennis, Canoeing and Rowing.  I will likely write up a blurb for the 2024 prospects of some of the countries that competed in Huangzhou in a couple of days. 
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