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Rankings for seeding (July 16) is on ITTF page

final draw will be based on this ranking

Men's singles 

1 seed Wang ( )

2 seed Pan ( )

3-4 seed  Lebron( ) & Calderano ( )

5-8 seed Lin () Harimoto () Dang ( ) and Jang ( )

...

Women's singles

1 seed Sun ( )

2 seed Chen ( )

3-4 seed Hayata ( ) & Shin ( )

5-8 seed Szocs( ), Diaz( ), Cheng() and Hirano()

Mixed doubles 

1.  Wang / Sun

2.  Harimoto / Hayata

3-4. Shin / Lim.  Doo/Wong

5-8.    

Team Men

1. 

2. 

3-4.

5-8.

Team Women

1. 

2. 

3-4.

5-8.

Gracenote has big Error in Taekwondo too.... Korea only send 4 players, but expected to get 5 medals haha...

Group D in men's doubles have 4 teams that could be top 8.  Other 12 teams would be quite happy.

6 hours ago, Dolby said:

What a mistake by BWF in MS. Seed 4 is in a group of 3 and has a bye in Rd of 16, while Seed 2 is in group of 4 with bye in Rd of 16 and Seed 3 is in group of 4 with no bye in Rd of 16. Seed 4 getting better advantage than Seed 2 is ridiculous. There was a better way of doing it. Seeds 2/3 should have been in group of 4 with byes  in Rd of 16. Top seed should have been in group of 3 with bye while 4th seed should have been in group of 3 without a bye. 

Drawing rule for BWF is weird.. cannot understand why they do like this. 

2 minutes ago, Faramir said:

Do the French have any chance in this sport?

Maybe not much...

Women's single

The only one to see in 1st round would be Tai vs Intanon, as Tai Tzu-Ying has suffered from injury, and Intanon is the strongest among non-seeded players. 

An have to win Akane and Tai Tzu Ying, while Chen need to win He or Sindhu , and Marin. Both of them are tough but An made worse draw. 

Women's doubles

Group A absorbed most of the strong non-seeded players. Liu-Tan, Matsuyama-Shida, and Baek-Lee would easily go to round of 8. Kim-Kong and Kititharakul-Prajongjai would make it either. 

For Group A, China and Japan have most chances.. but I think there could be some upset.

Mixed doubles

Bad for Group C. Not easy to get 2nd place in both group A and D, but good draw for two chinese teams. Group B has two strong teams that could secure round of 8. Who to become the 1st place in Group B would be interesting, as well as every match in group C

1 minute ago, prso1000 said:

Doesn’t matter which quota she used, she will be top seeded 

Okay you maybe right, and I don't want to offend you. 

I Just Want to know the rule.. anyway. 

We have to wake up until 4 AM to see all medal events and there are no football or baseball(actually not held after this olympic) team in Paris, which is the most popular team sports here in Korea, so the interest is lower than before. 

Hope we could get medal early, to get interest

19 minutes ago, thevorminatheria said:

I think there is the same issue for 49kg W where El-Bouchti has been reallocated a quota via 57kg ranking (not sure why BTW). She does not have a ranking in thr 49kg so will she be #17 of the seed or will they consider the ranking points from the 57kg ranking to place her somewhere in the 49kg ranking and seed her accordingly? The situation is different from Stolbova because in her case the rankings are the reason why she received quota so to simply ignore her ranking would be weird.

For El-Bouchti

https://worldtkd.simplycompete.com/playerProfileV2?countryId=null&searchQuery=null&month=6&year=2024&subCategory1=11ea9376-4530-2b19-aefb-0af9674366aa&rankingTypeId=11ea9376-1b54-af01-aefb-0af9674366aa&userId=11e6eef4-48d9-4c48-92b4-12f817a4f090

If you see her profile in 2024 June ranking, she also have ranking of 49kg #43 World Kyorugi ranking point. I think she could also be counted into 49 olympic ranking based on this data, although this would be lower than her original January ranking..

2 hours ago, prso1000 said:

Laurin will be top seeded

Of course I also thinks that top seed for Laurin is reasonable, but I maybe saw here that Laurin used home quota so she ll be 4 seeded. Do you have some related reference? Thanks

I had Just checked for Taekwondo seeding with only -M58 80, W57 and 67+ where Korean is in.

I cannot confirm but..

for M58, this looks right.

5 hours ago, thevorminatheria said:

I was looking into taekwondo rankings. This appears to be the ranking (end of June) they will use for seeding:
https://worldtkd.simplycompete.com/playerRankingV2?limit=25&pageNo=1&month=6&year=2024&rankingCategoryId=11ea9376-9371-e3ef-aefb-0af9674366aa&subCategory1=11ea9376-4530-2b19-aefb-0af9674366aa&rankingTypeId=11ea9376-1b54-af01-aefb-0af9674366aa

I understand that the French athletes when present will be ranked at least 4th (but can be ranked higher if they have a higher ranking than 4th). 

Anyone willing to take a look and see if the seeding I derived for the 58kg makes sense?

1 Jendoubi 

2 Dell’Aquila 

3 Vicente 

4 Ravet (host seed) 

5 Park 

6 Salim 

7 Wooley 

8 Lewis 

9 Issaka 

10 Magomedov 

11 Guzman 

12 Granado 

13 Ismail 

14 Gurtsiev 

15 Ababarikov 

16 Diop 

17 Korneev 

18 Tiran 

M80

1. Allesio

2. Nickolas

3. Eissa

4. Seo

5. Al-Sharabaty

6. Katoussi

7. Takov

8. Barkhordari

9. Jaysunov

10. Sawadogo

11. Sejranovic

12. Marquez

13. Churchill

14. Hrnic

15. Mansouri :EOR

16. Toleugali

17. Coulibaly

W57

1. Luo

2. Kiyanichandeh

3. Jones

4. Park

5. Ilgun

6. Lo

7. Dillon

8. Pacheco

9. Hymer

10. Toumi

11. Aoun

12. Kim

13. Hronova

14. Reljkij

15. Alizadeh

16. Atora

W67+

1. Kus

2. Lee

3. McGowan

4. Laurin

5. Brandl

6. Osipova

7. Zhou

8. AbouFaras

9. Al-Rub

10. Jahl

11. Bathily

12. Acosta

13. Abdulsalmova

I cannot clearly distinguish between seed 14~16 as some players are from -67 ranking

A. Stolbova (-67kg 12th)

B. Traill (67+ 152th) 

C. Aguirre (-67kg 75th, Kyorugi ranking-73kg 165th) 

Kazakhstan 80 players in 92 quotas(?)

maybe boxing 10, judo 8, Gymnastics 2+trampoline 1+rhytmics1, Athletics7, Canoe 6, shooting 9 ,  fencing5, wresting 8 (Free4, Greco4) archery 3, tennis 5, cycle 3, swimming 2, pentathlon2, taekwondo 2, badminton1, rowing 1, triathlon1, table tennis1, breaking1, climbing 1

Thailand ; 51 players

https://thestandard.co/list-of-thai-athletes-paris-2024-olympic-games/

2024 Paris Olympics Thailand Team

Badminton (9 athletes)

• รัชนก อินทนนท์ (Ratchanok Intanon): female singles
• ศุภนิดา เกตุทอง (Supanida Katethong): female singles
• กุลวุฒิ วิทิตศานต์ (Kunlavut Vitidsarn): male singles
• จงกลพรรณ กิติธรากุล (Jongkolphan Kititharakul) and รวินดา ประจงใจ (Rawinda Prajongjai): female doubles
• สุภัค จอมเกาะ (Supak Jomkoh) and กิตตินุพงษ์ เกตุเรน (Kittinupong Kedren): male doubles
• เดชาพล พัววรานุเคราะห์ (Dechapol Puavaranukroh) and ทรัพย์สิรี แต้รัตนชัย (Sapsiree Taerattanachai): mixed doubles

Boxing (8 athletes)

• ธิติสรรณ์ ปั้นโหมด (Thitisan Panmod): male under 51kg
• บรรจง สินศิริ (Banjong Sinchaithong): male under 64kg
• จันทร์แจ่ม สุวรรณเพ็ง (Janjam Suwanpeng): female under 66kg
• จุฑามาศ รักสัตย์ (Jutamas Raksat): female under 50kg
• ธนัญญา สมนึก (Thananya Somnuek): female under 60kg
• จุฑามาศ จิตรพงศ์ (Jutamas Jitpong): female under 54kg
• ใบสน มณีก้อน (Baison Maneekon): female under 75kg
• วีระพล จงจอหอ (Weerapon Jongjohor): male under 80kg

Golf (4 athletes)

• กิรเดช อภิบาลรัตน์ (Kiradech Aphibarnrat) and พชร คงวัดใหม่ (Pachara Khongwatmai): male individual
• อาฒยา ฐิติกุล (Atthaya Thitikul) and ปภังกร ธวัชธนกิจ (Patty Tavatanakit): female individual

Weightlifting (4 athletes)

• ธีรพงศ์ ศิลาชัย (Teerapong Silachai): male under 61kg
• วีรพล วิชุมา (Weeraphon Wichuma): male under 73kg
• สุรจนา คำเบ้า (Suratsana Khambao): female under 49kg
• ดวงอักษร ใจดี (Duangaksorn Jaidee): female over 87kg

Cycling (4 athletes)

• โกเมธ สุขประเสริฐ (Komet Sukprasert): male BMX racing
• ธนาคาร ไชยยาสมบัติ (Tanakorn Chaigyasombat): male road race
• เพชรดารินทร์ สมราช (Petchdarin Somratch): female road race, individual time trial
• จาย อังค์สุธาสาวิทย์ (Jai Angsuthasawit): male keirin, sprint

Sailing (4 athletes)

• เบญญาภา จันทวรรณ (Benjamas Chantarabun): kiteboarding
• โจนาธาน เวสตัน (Jonathan Weston): Formula Kite male
• อาทิตย์ มิคาอิล โรมานีก (Artit Mikhail Romanik): Dinghy ILCA 7 male
• โซเฟีย มอนโกเมอรี่ (Sophia Montgomery): Dinghy ILCA 6 female

Taekwondo (3 athletes)

• พาณิภัค วงศ์พัฒนกิจ (Panipak Wongpattanakit): female under 49kg
• ศศิกานต์ ทองจันทร์ (Sasikarn Thongchan): female under 67kg
• บัลลังก์ ทับทิมแดง (Balkrishna Thubtimdang): male under 68kg

Table Tennis (3 athletes)

• สุธาสินี เสวตรบุตร (Suthasini Sawettabut), จิณห์นิภา เสวตรบุตร (Jinnipa Sawettabut), อรวรรณ พาระนัง (Orawan Paranang): female team (two will also compete in singles)

Shooting (3 athletes)

• ธันยพร พฤกษากร (Thanyaporn Prueksakorn): female 25m pistol
• ทองผาภูมิ วงศ์สุขดี (Thongpa Phum Wongsukdee): male 50m rifle three positions
• กมลลักษณ์ แสนชา (Kamollak Sencha): female 10m air pistol

Athletics (2 athletes)

• ภูริพล บุญสอน (Puripol Boonson): male 100m
• สุเบญรัตน์ อินแสง (Subenrat Insaeng): female discus throw

Swimming (2 athletes)

• เจนจิรา ศรีสอาด (Jenjira Srisaard): female 50m freestyle
• ดุลยวัต แก้วศรียงค์ (Dulyawat Kaewsriyang): male 100m freestyle

Modern Pentathlon (1 athlete)

• จ.ท. ภูริช โยเฮือง (CPO Purich Yoheu): Laser-Run

Equestrian (1 athlete)

• ชนกภรณ์ การุณยธัช (Chanokporn Karunyatat): individual show jumping

Rowing (1 athlete)

• เปรมณัฏฐ์ วัฒนานุสิทธิ์ (Premnath Watananusit): male single sculls

Chinese taipei

60 players, with 26 Men, 34 Women (black shadowed table is for coach list). No flag-bearer decided yet. 

archery 6 ; athletics 4 ; badminton 6 ; boxing 6 ; breaking 1 ; canoeing 2 ; rowing 1 ; fencing 1 ; golf 4 ; gymnastics 2 judo 3 ; shooting8 ; swimming 2 ; tabletennis 6 ; taewkondo 1 ; tennis 4 ; weightlift 3

The name listed here is chinese but could be helpful... sorry for not translated

I found these website for Hong Kong China, and second one was translated below, thanks to ChatGPT. (and added the number of players for each discipline)

If it is right, 34 total. (16 M 18 F). Below it with 35 athletes means one additional substitute for table tennis women team. 

https://hongkongfp.com/2024/07/10/35-hong-kong-athletes-to-compete-in-13-events-at-2024-paris-olympics/

Team Korea

middle ; for medal ceremony  & side ; for casual purpose

for opening ceremony

5 minutes ago, Benolympique said:

and swimming ?

No swimming except for diving (2024 world championship was their first showcase even for diving since 2017, and only few players were in 2022 asian games either. I don't saw anywhere PRK team achieved OQT or even OCT).

For PRK(North Korea), they won't reveal their team size until before opening, maybe....

In June 18, (South) Korean newspaper said that they secured 14 quotas, and I didn't found additional quota since then. 

Artistic gymnastics : Chang-Ok Ahn (안창옥, Women indv.)

Athletics : Il-Ryong Han (한일룡, Men's marathon)

Boxing : Un-Kyong Won (원은경), Chol-Mi Pang (방철미) (Both women)

Diving : Mi-rae Kim (김미래) Jin-Mi Jo (조진미) (Both women, and Mi-rae Kim in both single and duet 10M platform, while Jo in only duet)

Wrestling : Se-Ung Ri (리세웅) for men's freestyle, and Son-Hyang Kim(김선향), Hyo-Gyong Choe(최효경), Hyon-Gyong Mun(문현경), and Sol-Gum Pak(박솔금) for women's wrestling

Table tennis : Kum-Yong Kim (김금용) and Ri-Jong Sik (리종식) for Mixed doubles, and Song-Gyong Pyon (편송경) for women's singles.

So it is 3 men, and 11 women for 14 total. 

And as they do not participate : Archery, Badminton, Breaking, Canoeing, Cycling, Equestrian, Fencing, Golf, Pentathlon, Rowing, Sailing, Shooting, skateboarding, climbing surfing, swimming, taekwondo, tennis, triathlon, beach volleyball in international games for few years, do not qualified for ballgames (like soccer, basketball, volleyball, handball, etc) and banned for weightlifting, where they have world-best players (of course little bit suspicious for juiced). It seems like they do not have additional available quotas. 

Oh Sorry, without counting substitute players, I think 141 would be right!

3+1 Men's sabre

3+1 Women's Epee

3+1 Women's sabre

1 Men's epee

1 Men's foil

So 11 players and 3 substitute. 

  and counting this 11 would make 141 total

Taekwondo seeding rule ; based on the 2024 June ranking, however French would get 4th seed as they used quota for host country. 

China for diving, table tennis and women's weightlifting (except Reeves and Dajomes, where no Chinese)

Korea's women archery team are threatened by Chinese team for their 10 time Gold medal streak in Women's team, but I think men's team have good enough chance for win gold. 

Men's team won both 2021, 2023 world championship and they won every world cup gold medal during 2022-2023 season without the 1st one each, where they did not appeared. There only loss since tokyo was 1st olympic of this season, where India got gold and Korea got silver. (And Korea got gold in 2nd, 3rd world cup). 

144 for South Korea.

78 Women and 66 Men

Official for 144; https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/sports/2024/07/600_378308.html

List in Korean wiki; https://namu.wiki/w/2024 파리 올림픽/대한민국 

• Golf(5): Men 2, Women 3 김주형, 안병훈, 고진영, 김효주, 양희영
• Pentathlon(4): Men2, Women 2. 김선우, 서창완, 성승민, 전웅태
• Wrestling (2): Men2 (all Greco-Roman) 김승준, 이승찬
• Badminton (12): Women 8, Men 4   안세영, 김가은, 공희용, 김소영, 백하나, 이소희, 채유정, 정나은, 전혁진, 서승재, 강민혁, 김원호
• Boxing(2): Women 2임애지, 오연지
• Breaking(1): Men 1 김홍열
• Shooting(16):Women 10, Men 6 강지은 박하준, 반효진, 금지현, 이원호, 오예진, 김예지, 송종호, 조영재, 양지인, 이은서, 임하나, 이보나, 최대한, 김민수, 장국희
• Cycle(2): Men1 Women1 김유로, 송민지
• Swimming(23) Men 15 Women 8
  • Swimming(15): 김민섭, 김서영, 김영현, 김우민, 김지훈, 양재훈, 이유연, 이은지, 이주호, 이호준, 조성재, 지유찬, 최동열, 황선우, 허연경
  • Diving(6): 김나현, 김수지, 김영택, 신정휘, 우하람, 이재경
  • Artistic(2): 이리영, 허윤서
• Climbing(3): Men2 Women1 신은철, 이도현, 서채현
• Equestrian(1): Men1 황영식
• Archery(6): Men3, Women3 김우진, 이우석, 김제덕, 임시현, 전훈영, 남수현
• Weightlifting(5): Men3, Women2 김수현, 박주효, 박혜정, 유동주, 장연학
• Sailing(1): Men1 하지민
• Judo(11): Men 5, Women 6 김원진, 안바울, 이준환, 한주엽, 김민종, 이혜경, 정예린, 허미미, 김지수, 윤현지, 김하윤
• Athletics(3): Men 3 김장우, 우상혁, 최병광
• Gymnastics(8): Men 3, Women 5 김한솔, 류성현, 엄도현, 여서정, 이다영, 이윤서, 이준호, 신솔이
• Table tennis (6): Men 3, Women 3 신유빈, 이은혜, 임종훈, 장우진, 전지희, 조대성
• Taekwondo (4): Men2 Women 2 박태준, 서건우, 김유진, 이다빈
• Tennis(1): Men1 권순우
• Fencing(14): Men 6 Women 8 강영미, 구본길, 김재원, 도경동, 박상원, 송세라, 오상욱, 윤지수, 이혜인, 전은혜, 전하영, 최세빈, 최인정, 하태규
• Handball(14): Women 14 강경민, 강은서, 강은혜, 김다영, 김보은, 류은희, 박새영, 송지영, 신은주, 신진미, 우빛나, 전지연, 정진희, 한미슬

US, China, France, UK, Big 4 fixed

Austrailia, Italy, Japan, Germany, Netherlands  would be Next teams

If it's a matter of "who will receive most gold medal", any team can get a chance, as there are numerous teams who could get 5~10 Golds. 

For "Who will receive most G+S+B", Korea is reasonable. There are so many chances for Korea getting 10+ Bronze this year

Expected total medal is 24~27 in Korea. But 6~8 in gold. 

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Archery 3 gold, 4-5 total  : Sure for Men's team, but One could be missed in other three which we got gold in tokyo ( Women ind, Women's team and Mix double) . 

Badminton 1 gold, 3 total : Se-Young Ahn (WR 1st) and Woman doubles' (WR 2nd) are gold medal candidate, who would fight with Chinese team in final maybe. Seo(both in Men's double, Mixed double for #3~#5 candidate) could also add 1 medal in either one chance.

Fencing 1 gold, 3 total : Men's Sabre vs US, and Women's Epee vs Italy. One gold could come here. + 1 medal for Oh in Men's sabre or Women's sabre team (both WR4), I hope.

Judo 1 gold, 3 total : We have WR 1 in 100+kg , Min-Jong Kim, but Riner and other players are also strong. Also, we could fight for gold in Women's 57kg, Huh vs Deguchi (CAN).  Men's 81kg (Lee) is also a medal contender. 

Shooting 0-1 gold, 2-3 total : Cannot expect much, but we got lots of medal in 2024 series, and women players are good in this year. 

Taekwondo 0-1 gold, 2-3 total : we send 3 players in Rank 3-5 for Men's 58, Men's 80 and Women's 67+.  As top 4 could get medal, I think at least bronze could be earned by all of them, at least 2. 

Pentathlon 0-1 gold, 1 total : Jun in men, Sung in women (2024 championship bronze, gold) could be in top 3. Do not sure for additional gold here, as Choong, and Italy player in women pentathlon is strong.

Swimming 1 total : In free 200 and 400, Sun-Woo Hwang and Woo-Min Kim are having good record (could fight for bronze, and hopefully silver for Hwang). 

Table tennis 1 total : Maybe can get bronze in Mix double after China, and Japan.  There is also a chance for Women's team who is ranked #3 in ITTF team ranking. Also very slight chance for men's team. 

Other candidate 3 total : Men's High jump (Woo) , Weightlifting Women (Park Hye-jeong),  Golf Women (3 player in Ranking top 15), etc. 

There are someone only with slight chance, such as sports climbing (qualifier 1st, 2nd for combine men, women) / breaking (qualifier 2nd) / artistic gymastics (Women vault Yeo in Tokyo #3, championship 2023 #3. ) , Swimming freestyle 200x4, Weightlifting Men 102kg Jang, Men's artistic gymnastics, and others. 

So, sum of them could be 6-8 gold , and total avg.25 medals expected

Little bit suspicious but could be top 10 in total medal tally. Maybe 11~12 th in gold medal