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25 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

Poland, Italy and Netherlands with once in a century fluke performances. At least most of their medalists will be gone soon. Both Kaul and Schäfer could have sleepwalked to a medal without their injuries, Kaul probably would have even won gold.

Got bad news for you, Anita Wlodarczyk said she will be in Paris already :p Makes U wonder where is Betty Heidler these days? Probably run out of magic pills :d

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28 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said:

Poland, Italy and Netherlands with once in a century fluke performances. At least most of their medalists will be gone soon. Both Kaul and Schäfer could have sleepwalked to a medal without their injuries, Kaul probably would have even won gold.

Yea Kaul scoring almost 900 points more than his seasonal best is very possible and clean ?

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20 minutes ago, Monzanator said:

Got bad news for you, Anita Wlodarczyk said she will be in Paris already :p Makes U wonder where is Betty Heidler these days? Probably run out of magic pills :d

1) You must be close to retard level of intelligence if you think that Wlodarczyk can throw multiple meters farther than doped Heidler without doping herself.

2) I think unlike Wlodarczyk Heidler has something else in life than sport (which of course means that she has less incentive to dope)

3) If fat granny Wlodarczyk wins another medal in Paris, it is the last proof anyone needed to see that hammer throw isn't a sport (same is true for Fajdek)

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17 minutes ago, intoronto said:

Yea Kaul scoring almost 900 points more than his seasonal best is very possible and clean ?

Kaul was on his way to 8750+ points, which would have been enough for gold and obviously wouldn't have been 900 points more than his SB. Also he was already qualified for this event, so he had no reason to put down a serious result all year long (and in addition to that he is 8 years younger than Warner).

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2 hours ago, OlympicsFan said:

Poland, Italy and Netherlands with once in a century fluke performances. At least most of their medalists will be gone soon. Both Kaul and Schäfer could have sleepwalked to a medal without their injuries, Kaul probably would have even won gold.

I actually believe this incredible athletics tournament by the Dutch is not a fluke at all. It's a concentrated effort by NOC*NSF and the Atletiekunie (national athletics federation) to lift our Athletics to a higher level.

 

They attracted succesful Suisse coach Meuwly for 'Project 400' to improve our elite performances in 400m running. They followed the example of our swimming team (4x100m freestyle women) by creating a relay group that drives each other to greater heights. The project then struck gold by assigning talented young coach Peters as Meuwly's assistent and with the introduction of talents like Bol, Klaver, Angela and others the entire 400m group has found an incredible flow. Peters was actually Bol's youth coach (age 15-16 I believe) and he wanted to grow with her, so he was studying for the elite coaching papers when this 400m project started.

 

Then there's the succes in heptathlon, which has traditionally been the focus event for our athletics federation (Schippers, Visser, Broersen, Vetter and now Oosterwegel). The stars aligned with incredible performances and a barrage of PB's in Tokyo. But Vetter has proven before that she has what it takes to medal internationally before and Oosterwegel has improved steadily since youth tournaments and her international debut in Doha 2019. The federation has put a solid structure into place for talented athletes to develop in a highly professional environment in our national sports centre in Papendal. We still consistently send heptathletes and decathletes to European youth tournaments and it's only a matter of time that a small percentage of them manage to reach the elite level.

 

That Hassan came to the Netherlands after leaving Ethiopia is a coincidence or 'fluke', I'll give you that. But from there her talent was recognised early and she integrated into a highly professional distance running environment. The management bureau of former Dutch marathon runner Jos Hermens is the biggest in the world of distance running, although they don't necessarily focus on developing Dutch distance running. Even if coincidence played a role, Hassan's development as a runner is the result of her incredible talent and drive, good management and conscious decisions.

 

A fluke to me would be if Bol medalled only because Muhammad hit a hurdle or if Vetter only medalled because of KJT's unfortunate exit, neither of those are the case. This success is the result of the hard work, good decisions and dedication of the athletes and all staff involved.

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1) Hassan isn't part of the dutch system. Also her form is horrible, which makes her performances even more absurd.

2) Two medals in heptathlon definitely is a monster fluke.

3) A medal for Bol obviously was expected.

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