phelps 7,489 Posted Friday at 07:44 PM #21 Share Posted Friday at 07:44 PM 7 hours ago, mpjmcevoy said: It's often oddly in the nature of these things that the second seed has a better OVERALL draw than the top seed, until you get the semis, albeit the top seed gets the pest pickings of their half - equally the fourth seed often has a pig of a draw - given some artificial french 4th seeds, that quarter is likely to be 'unpredictable' I was just looking at the previous encounters of Dell'Aquila vs the other qualified athletes "dangerous" for him just means Jendoubi and Park (and Ravet, as he's the hometown boy), he hasn't lost against any other competitor among the qualified ones in a major event since 2019, so those 2/3 were the men he's better not to face before the GMM meanwhile Simone Alessio has a much tougher draw, having to face already in the quarters the always dangerous man from Iran (or the Uzbek man) and in the semis his bete noir Seo even the 1st round vs or isn't a walk in the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevorminatheria 4 Posted Friday at 11:38 PM #22 Share Posted Friday at 11:38 PM I have it from direct good sources that World Taekwondo in its infinite wisdom has published rankings named "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding" which will in fact NOT be used for the seeding because they contain some miscomputations in the automated system used to refresh rankings. You can spot the incosistencies by clicking on a given athlete page and search from the dropdown menu the month of June 2024, you will notice some of the rankings differ from those published under "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding". And between the two the correct ones are the ones shown in the athlete pages. I have recomputed the seeds for the categories with Italians and I am 95% confident they will be used for the actual draw. 58kg M 1 Jendoubi 2 Vicente 3 Dell’Aquila 4 Ravet (host seed) 5 Park 6 Salim 7 Wooley 8 Lewis 9 Issaka 10 Magomedov 11 Guzman 12 Granado 13 Gurtsiev 14 Ababarikov 15 Ismail 16 Diop 17 Korneev 18 Tiran This is actually better for Dell'Aquila which will avoid facing a first match with a fighter that already had their first fight, which in most people's opinion is a bit of a disadvantage. 80kg M 1 Alessio 2 Nicholas 3 Eissa 4 Seo 5 El Shaarabty 6 Katoussi 7 Takov 8 Barkhodari 9 Jaysunov 10 Sawadogo 11 Sejranovic 12 Marques 13 Churchill 14 Hrnic 15 Mansouri 16 Coulibaly 17 Toleugali Here the only difference from the rankings published above is BUR and AUS flip-flopping positions 49kg F 1 Wongpattanakit 2 Cerezo 3 Dincel 4 Stojkovic 5 Souza 6 Guo 7 Nematzadeh 8 Semberg 9 Abutaleb 10 Tau 11 Pouryounes 12 Dhari 13 Kafadar 14 Matonti 15 Grippoli 16 Da Silva 17 El-Bouchti Here Souza and Guo exchange positions (quite relevant for the bracket) and El-Bouchti is confirmed to be #17 unless WT pulls something funny at the last moment. The big loser is Panipak which will fight her first round against a top 6 opponent who will also have the benefit to have a previous fight with a sparring partner from Timor-Leste to warm up. MHSN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,461 Posted Friday at 11:57 PM #23 Share Posted Friday at 11:57 PM 15 minutes ago, thevorminatheria said: I have it from direct good sources that World Taekwondo in its infinite wisdom has published rankings named "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding" which will in fact NOT be used for the seeding because they contain some miscomputations in the automated system used to refresh rankings. You can spot the incosistencies by clicking on a given athlete page and search from the dropdown menu the month of June 2024, you will notice some of the rankings differ from those published under "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding". And between the two the correct ones are the ones shown in the athlete pages. I can see the mistake now, their software automatically deduced some points from everybody (25% of points they hot in June of previous years) and that shouldn't happen because they froze the ranking on 1 June. to have the real ranking for the Olympic seeding you just have to change the month from blank to June. which gives the same result as checking every single athletes points, but just faster and easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,489 Posted Saturday at 08:52 AM #24 Share Posted Saturday at 08:52 AM 9 hours ago, thevorminatheria said: I have it from direct good sources that World Taekwondo in its infinite wisdom has published rankings named "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding" which will in fact NOT be used for the seeding because they contain some miscomputations in the automated system used to refresh rankings. You can spot the incosistencies by clicking on a given athlete page and search from the dropdown menu the month of June 2024, you will notice some of the rankings differ from those published under "June 2024 Used for Paris 2024 Seeding". And between the two the correct ones are the ones shown in the athlete pages. I have recomputed the seeds for the categories with Italians and I am 95% confident they will be used for the actual draw. 58kg M 1 Jendoubi 2 Vicente 3 Dell’Aquila 4 Ravet (host seed) 5 Park 6 Salim 7 Wooley 8 Lewis 9 Issaka 10 Magomedov 11 Guzman 12 Granado 13 Gurtsiev 14 Ababarikov 15 Ismail 16 Diop 17 Korneev 18 Tiran This is actually better for Dell'Aquila which will avoid facing a first match with a fighter that already had their first fight, which in most people's opinion is a bit of a disadvantage. 80kg M 1 Alessio 2 Nicholas 3 Eissa 4 Seo 5 El Shaarabty 6 Katoussi 7 Takov 8 Barkhodari 9 Jaysunov 10 Sawadogo 11 Sejranovic 12 Marques 13 Churchill 14 Hrnic 15 Mansouri 16 Coulibaly 17 Toleugali Here the only difference from the rankings published above is BUR and AUS flip-flopping positions 49kg F 1 Wongpattanakit 2 Cerezo 3 Dincel 4 Stojkovic 5 Souza 6 Guo 7 Nematzadeh 8 Semberg 9 Abutaleb 10 Tau 11 Pouryounes 12 Dhari 13 Kafadar 14 Matonti 15 Grippoli 16 Da Silva 17 El-Bouchti Here Souza and Guo exchange positions (quite relevant for the bracket) and El-Bouchti is confirmed to be #17 unless WT pulls something funny at the last moment. The big loser is Panipak which will fight her first round against a top 6 opponent who will also have the benefit to have a previous fight with a sparring partner from Timor-Leste to warm up. no way! now he has to face 2 lots more dangerous opponents on the road to semis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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