mpjmcevoy 294 Posted 22 hours ago #291 Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 minute ago, Faramir said: Analysis is clearly non-existant. Research must be searching for WCh results and top lists/rankings and combining them together in a standing without bothering to check anything, then adding points to the French as boost for the home nation. I think that is PRECISELY the 'research and analysis' in this instance, as it has been before. Which is all harmless and good fun...except they sell it. And that is not on. We got to look at this for free, so no harm, no foul, but earlier in the cycle they sold it - and clearly the 'changes' in their analysis over time that allowed further sales was simply updating world champs results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpjmcevoy 294 Posted 22 hours ago #292 Share Posted 22 hours ago 10 minutes ago, hoversaBR said: 3 golds for Brazil in Gymnastics? I think Gracenote forgot about Simone Biles. Only one medal in Boxing and none in Judo? It should be a historic disaster for Brazil if our two main sports together brought just 1 medal. Disasters happen (see GBR rowing Tokyo 2020) but the point is very much that there is no real analysis to justify the disaster prediction here, just toting up medals and then artificially boosting France, without genuinely analysing where the undoubted home bonus might actually play in this instance. Like, the 2024 worlds aquatics results are broadly meaningless - and yes, 2023 Worlds are also too long ago to be entirely reliable - guess what, this games pool will be a little less predictable than usual - there's no sign of analysis here though - even basics like comparing trials results between competitive trials The idea of GBR taking six straight golds in rowing, and no minor medals at all, is risible. Not as risible in getting medals in events and with athletes not actually in the Games (mixed skeet, jess Gadirova), but still, pretty funny. Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illya 478 Posted 22 hours ago #293 Share Posted 22 hours ago Oh, it's a joke, so cringy predictions. They literally gave medals to Zakhareiev, the skeet mixed team, who are not qualified for Paris, and silver to Lashchevska, who in their opinion can beat Simone Biles. I mean, this is hideous mpjmcevoy, Josh and dullard 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erw 23 Posted 22 hours ago #294 Share Posted 22 hours ago Gracenote has big Error in Taekwondo too.... Korea only send 4 players, but expected to get 5 medals haha... mpjmcevoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB 87 Posted 22 hours ago #295 Share Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, erw said: Gracenote has big Error in Taekwondo too.... Korea only send 4 players, but expected to get 5 medals haha... That's a fairly impressive conversion rate mpjmcevoy, Noorderling29 and Josh 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,422 Posted 21 hours ago #296 Share Posted 21 hours ago 45 minutes ago, mpjmcevoy said: Which is all harmless and good fun...except they sell it. And that is not on. We got to look at this for free, so no harm, no foul, but earlier in the cycle they sold it - and clearly the 'changes' in their analysis over time that allowed further sales was simply updating world champs results. Yeah, that's my biggest gripe with GraceNote. They are selling a product with many errors. I understand athletes can withdraw right up to the last moment, but some of these errors are medals being awarded to nations without qualification or athletes who have withdrew months ago. Obviously, the lack of competition lets them get away with selling this and in the end if something doesn't come true the easy excuse is sports is too random hckošice and Josh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erquanmen 14 Posted 21 hours ago #297 Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) I'm very curious about how Wang Zhilin & Feng Sixuan can get medals in shooting at Paris Sun Jiaqi & Deng Yawen are also fall down when they see both Sun Sibei & Zhou Huimin appear in stadium(Xu Shiyan:Su Xin!!!) Edited 21 hours ago by erquanmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 13,962 Posted 21 hours ago #298 Share Posted 21 hours ago Bronze for Sydney McLaughlin in the 400m hurdles (lol) and flat, which she won't compete in Topicmaster1010, Josh and dullard 3 If you'd like to help our fellow Totallympics member Bruna Moura get to the 2026 Winter Olympics, after her car crash on the way to the 2022 Olympics, every tiny bit of help would be greatly appreciated! Full story and how to help can be found here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faramir 229 Posted 20 hours ago #299 Share Posted 20 hours ago Josh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,422 Posted 20 hours ago #300 Share Posted 20 hours ago The other issue which is a lot harder to solve is that some events are more predictable than others. In reality, some events have a near-lock for gold while for others, the favourite may only have around 20% chance of actually winning gold, but in the end both nations are predicted to win 1 gold medal. This sometimes balances out in the overall medal list, but you do get situations where Great Britain is predicted to win six golds in rowing just because their model states they are the favourites even if slight in some events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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