Grassmarket 3,404 Posted February 24, 2022 #141 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, EselTheDonkey said: I'm aghast about this. And I don't know if our government does this in spite of realizing how close we actually are to Russia or because of this. They’ve been bribed or blackmailed. Putin knows what they all did back in the days, both sides of the Wall. Schröder should have been flung in jail for life. The fact that he wasn’t convinces me many others are on the golden ruble. Plenty of ours too, btw, it’s not just Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHSN 3,619 Posted February 24, 2022 #142 Share Posted February 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Illya said: Thanks for all support , but ...... Вut other countries are not doing anything for Ukraine. Only words, only verbal support. Few countries are in favor of imposing sanctions I wish you, your family and your country the best of luck. I know how it feels to live in a situation like that. I just hope this madness, this meaningless war ends soon. with as less causality as possible Canada4thewin, Ted, NikolaB and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywoodu 15,135 Posted February 24, 2022 #143 Share Posted February 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Monzanator said: God knows what NATO does when Russia invades the Baltic states. You know it will be Putin's next target. And Poland right after that. Call it fair, call it unfair, but the Baltic states are NATO members, unlike Ukraine, and so an attack on them will without a doubt be treated differently. Without adding an opinion to that, that's simply how it is. If they were not NATO members, Putin would have long ago gotten them.. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monzanator 4,499 Posted February 24, 2022 #144 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, heywoodu said: Call it fair, call it unfair, but the Baltic states are NATO members, unlike Ukraine, and so an attack on them will without a doubt be treated differently. Without adding an opinion to that, that's simply how it is. If they were not NATO members, Putin would have long ago gotten them.. I'm not so sure about it. Of course NATO can send some troops to Baltic states but might concede this a lost battle for the sake of economical safety & pressure from global banks (as it always is). The best thing for Poland is that Putin will undoubtedly go after Baltic states first since there are enough ethnic Russians living there he can sell the old crap of "peace-keeping the Russian-speaking minority". That excuse will never fly with Poland. Western Belarus is no longer within Polish borders like it was in 1939. konig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,326 Posted February 24, 2022 #145 Share Posted February 24, 2022 There's absolutely no way they would let Putin take the Baltic states, that would be the end of both NATO and EU. The reason why this is happening to Ukraine because they were alone in this as a "neutral" state, without any real allies. NATO exists because it guarantees the safety of all members, if that gets thrown under the bus, you might as well start learning Chinese and Russian. heywoodu and dcro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckošice 14,822 Posted February 24, 2022 #146 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Looks like took the Kyiv airport (Hostomel) back and one Russian military plane crashed even before entering Ukraine (must be some typical brilliant soviet technology)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,519 Posted February 24, 2022 #147 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Vektor said: There's absolutely no way they would let Putin take the Baltic states, that would be the end of both NATO and EU. The reason why this is happening to Ukraine because they were alone in this as a "neutral" state, without any real allies. The literal reason for NATO to exist is that it guarantees the safety of all members, if that gets thrown under the bus, you might as well start learning Chinese and Russian. I hope you are right. but i’m not sure what happens when Trump comes back in 2024. Ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassmarket 3,404 Posted February 24, 2022 #148 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Back in the 1980s it was my theory that the West could swiftly defuse any Russian invasion just by leaving crates of vodka & porn by the side of the road. Worth a try now. konig and Wanderer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vektor 3,326 Posted February 24, 2022 #149 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Is it just me or does the scale of the invasion seem very small? I mean, for most of the day I just thought that we aren't getting information on what's happening, but maybe not much of actual significance happened besides the bombing? Either the Russian invasion is somehow failing or Putin wasn't lying when he called it a "special military operation" and this isn't a full scale invasion for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafalgorka 1,519 Posted February 24, 2022 #150 Share Posted February 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Grassmarket said: Back in the 1980s it was my theory that the West could swiftly defuse any Russian invasion just by leaving crates of vodka & porn by the side of the road. Worth a try now. We tried this with them here in Poland before. Ain’t worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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