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Ukraine also mentioned Baku, for me it's quite fair and showing good faith. It's definitely acceptable for Russia. But there is a but. It's first publicly mentioned by Ukraine so if Russia accepts it

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I do wonder how much is true about the Russian losses mentioned by Ukraine. Usually both sides in something like this exaggerate the losses of the other...it's possible, but if true, it's an incredibl

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Sadly there appears to be some truth in this. Seen too many videos and testimonies from many Indian and African students alleging racial discrimination. Disappointing. 

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52 minutes ago, lapaj said:

Would be great if this wasn't coming from the same person who just 2 years ago travelled to Iraq to express her support to Popular Mobilization Forces and supporting war in Syria, now talking about not supporting any war actions. MP Daly never had any consistency with her statements, she just hunting for opportunities to get media's attention to stay relevant... 

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Being completely anti-war is what has led Europe to this very moment in history.

 

Any sane person wants a world without war, but that's not possible. Not now, not in the future. 

 

Europe right now is in a direct conflict with Russia, the defeat of Ukraine would be the defeat of Europe as well. And the only acceptable way to end this conflict is with a Russian defeat. Putin can't get away with it again. The Western alliance has to show that our enemies can't cross a line without suffering humiliation, otherwise Taiwan comes next and then the next World War. 

 

And yes, that means many Ukrainians will die for this cause. I wish it wouldn't be the case, but that's what you get when a nuclear power attacks a non-nuclear power. NATO can't end it directly, which I am quiet sure they would be able to with air support in Ukraine because the Russian army wouldn't stand a chance, but that's not possible due to the nuclear threat. So it has to be won with the hard way for Ukraine.  

 

And as for Europe, instead of the continuous anti-war bullshit, we need an actual strong, united European army. We can't rely on the US forever, who knows when the next Trump (or just Trump again) comes along. This must be the conflict and the time that the EU and its nations realize that we need to be always prepared to be able to protect ourselves and the silly assumption that we are invincible has to stop. We are vulnerable without a strong European army, our peaceful ways are only possible to maintain with a strong defence.  

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1 hour ago, Bearas said:

Would be great if this wasn't coming from the same person who just 2 years ago travelled to Iraq to express her support to Popular Mobilization Forces and supporting war in Syria, now talking about not supporting any war actions. MP Daly never had any consistency with her statements, she just hunting for opportunities to get media's attention to stay relevant... 

She has a clear piont. There is no communication between the two sides at all! Would it lead to the end of the war?

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45 minutes ago, lapaj said:

She has a clear piont. There is no communication between the two sides at all! Would it lead to the end of the war?

But what should they communicate about? "Here you go, Russia. Just keep the lands that you stole?". Let's be pretty damn honest. That's the very least that Russia will do with. And if we say that, I can assure you that it's just a matter of time before they go for the next piece of territorial gain.

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But what should they communicate about? "Here you go, Russia. Just keep the lands that you stole?". Let's be pretty damn honest. That's the very least that Russia will do with. And if we say that, I can assure you that it's just a matter of time before they go for the next piece of territorial gain.

Or: "What you russians want?" And the russians would say something. But I think the russians do not know what they want.

 

But if the russians want Ukrain out of the NATO will you send troops to defend the ukrainian NATO wish? 

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