Totallympics 44 Posted August 13, 2021 #1 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Speed Skating at the Winter Olympic Games Beijing 2022 Beijing (CHN) - 5 February 2022 - 19 February 2022 Official Website Programme Results System Results Database Facebook Page Discussion Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 2,567 Posted August 15, 2021 #2 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Speed skating qualification events/times: https://www.isu.org/speed-skating/rules/ssk-communications/25952-isu-communication-2405/file George_D and Laraja 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 319 Posted November 14, 2021 #3 Share Posted November 14, 2021 is currently 1st reserve on the men's mass start Still 2 more world cups to go though, but that would be amazing! Ted and Belle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 319 Posted November 14, 2021 #4 Share Posted November 14, 2021 According to my calculations these are the provisional quota's per NOC after World Cup 1 out of 4: Women: NOC Max # of different skaters 500m 1.000m 1.500m 3.000m 5.000m Mass Start Team Pursuit 1 1 3 1 1 1 7 1 1 2 1 1 3 8 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 7 2 3 2 2 1 2 7 1 2 2 1 2 3 1 1 1 7 2 2 2 1 4 1 1 1 1 8 3 2 3 2 2 2 3 6 1 1 2 1 1 7 2 2 1 2 9 3 3 3 3 2 2 3 6 1 1 1 1 1 3 7 2 2 2 2 3 8 3 3 3 2 1 2 3 2 1 1 2 1 1 3 1 1 1 7 3 2 2 1 2 3 *5.000m ranking is purely based on current combined World Cup standings over 3.000m/5.000m. Next week, the only 5.000m will be skated. Total maximum number of different skaters is now 112, though only 83 different skaters per gender may start. However, many countries will probably let several skaters skate multiple distances, i.e. will use only Sablikova and Zdrahalova (and maybe Kursova) to fill their 7 quota. Reserves per distance (in order): 500m: 1.000m: 1.500m: 3.000m: Mass Start: Team Pursuit: is the biggest country missing as Vanessa Herzog is injured. Hopefully she'll return in December to secure her spot. Benolympique and Gianlu33 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 319 Posted November 14, 2021 #5 Share Posted November 14, 2021 According to my calculations these are the provisional quota's per NOC after World Cup 1 out of 4: Men: NOC Max # of different skaters 500m 1.000m 1.500m 3.000m 5.000m Mass Start Team Pursuit 4 1 1 1 1 5 2 1 1 1 8 3 3 3 2 2 1 3 7 3 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 3 1 2 2 1 1 7 2 2 1 1 1 1 8 2 1 1 2 1 1 3 7 3 3 3 1 1 3 4 2 1 1 7 2 3 2 1 3 1 1 9 3 3 3 3 2 2 3 8 2 2 3 2 2 1 3 2 1 1 7 2 2 2 2 7 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 7 1 2 2 2 2 3 *10.000m ranking is purely based on current combined World Cup standings over 5.000m/10.000m. Next week, the only 10.000m will be skated. Total maximum number of different skaters is now 114, though only 83 different skaters per gender may start. Reserves per distance (in order): 500m: 1.000m: 1.500m: 5.000m: Mass Start: Team Pursuit: currently first reserve on two distances. As long as I can remember, they've always qualified multiple skaters, so it would be a pity to see them missing out. I'm also hoping for Gabriel Odor to qualify on the men's 1.500m and/or mass start. also just outside of the qualifying spots only 2 skaters currently ranked high enough for a direct quotum on the 500m, which is probably the biggest surprise. . Gianlu33 and Ted 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 2,567 Posted November 14, 2021 #6 Share Posted November 14, 2021 So 27 NOCs with two one spot out of qualification and Austria likely to qualify if Herzog returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 319 Posted November 14, 2021 #7 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, intoronto said: So 27 NOCs with two one spot out of qualification and Austria likely to qualify if Herzog returns Yes, , and are barely in though. and should make it, but they're far from sure yet. So let's see what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Liu 1,395 Posted November 15, 2021 #8 Share Posted November 15, 2021 14 hours ago, Dennis said: According to my calculations these are the provisional quota's per NOC after World Cup 1 out of 4: Women: NOC Max # of different skaters 500m 1.000m 1.500m 3.000m 5.000m Mass Start Team Pursuit 1 1 3 1 1 1 7 1 1 2 1 1 3 8 2 2 2 3 2 2 3 7 2 3 2 2 1 2 7 1 2 2 1 2 3 1 1 1 7 2 2 2 1 4 1 1 1 1 8 3 2 3 2 2 2 3 6 1 1 2 1 1 7 2 2 1 2 9 3 3 3 3 2 2 3 6 1 1 1 1 1 3 7 2 2 2 2 3 8 3 3 3 2 1 2 3 2 1 1 2 1 1 3 1 1 1 7 3 2 2 1 2 3 *5.000m ranking is purely based on current combined World Cup standings over 3.000m/5.000m. Next week, the only 5.000m will be skated. Total maximum number of different skaters is now 112, though only 83 different skaters per gender may start. However, many countries will probably let several skaters skate multiple distances, i.e. will use only Sablikova and Zdrahalova (and maybe Kursova) to fill their 7 quota. Reserves per distance (in order): 500m: 1.000m: 1.500m: 3.000m: Mass Start: Team Pursuit: is the biggest country missing as Vanessa Herzog is injured. Hopefully she'll return in December to secure her spot. I am not sure if China team pursuit got provisional quota despite of DQ. But I tend to think we are provisionally qualified based on my own interpretation of the document. I think as long as we are on top 11 (8 qualified teams + 3 reserve list teams) then we are qualified. Since there are only 11 teams registered so China is qualified for sure. I am eager to know others' thought about it and below is the qualification document and the relevant part. D.2.2 If the host country does not earn at least two (2) quota places in the 500m, 1000m, 1500m, Mass Start (Women and Men), 3000m Women and 5000m Men and at least one (1) quota place in the 5000m Women and 10000m Men in D.2.1 but it has athletes who are placed in the respective events/distances Reserve List (as per D.2.5), for each individual event concerned the host country will be allocated event quota places considering also athletes ranked in the Reserve list, up to a maximum of two (2) athletes in the 500m, 1000m, 1500m, Mass Start (Women and Men), 3000m Women and 5000m Men and one (1) quota place in the 5000m Women and 10000m Men. For each of the Team Pursuit events the host country will be allocated an event quota place also in the case that the host country is only ranked in a Reserve list position. D.2.5 Reserve List When the maximum total of quota places for an event/distance (as specified above) has been reached, the next SOQC positions per event/distance will constitute a reserve list of quota places. For each of the individual events/distances the reserve list consists of eight (8) reserve quota places. For each of the Team Pursuit events the reserve list consists of three (3) reserve quota places. https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links-2/2022-beijing/qualification-systems-3/24307-speed-skating-v1-1/file Ted and opruh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcro 9,839 Posted November 15, 2021 #9 Share Posted November 15, 2021 New Zealand went from being medal favorites to not even making the cut all within one Olympiad. #banbestmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 319 Posted November 15, 2021 #10 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Vic Liu said: I am not sure if China team pursuit got provisional quota despite of DQ. But I tend to think we are provisionally qualified based on my own interpretation of the document. I think as long as we are on top 11 (8 qualified teams + 3 reserve list teams) then we are qualified. Since there are only 11 teams registered so China is qualified for sure. I am eager to know others' thought about it and below is the qualification document and the relevant part. D.2.2 If the host country does not earn at least two (2) quota places in the 500m, 1000m, 1500m, Mass Start (Women and Men), 3000m Women and 5000m Men and at least one (1) quota place in the 5000m Women and 10000m Men in D.2.1 but it has athletes who are placed in the respective events/distances Reserve List (as per D.2.5), for each individual event concerned the host country will be allocated event quota places considering also athletes ranked in the Reserve list, up to a maximum of two (2) athletes in the 500m, 1000m, 1500m, Mass Start (Women and Men), 3000m Women and 5000m Men and one (1) quota place in the 5000m Women and 10000m Men. For each of the Team Pursuit events the host country will be allocated an event quota place also in the case that the host country is only ranked in a Reserve list position. D.2.5 Reserve List When the maximum total of quota places for an event/distance (as specified above) has been reached, the next SOQC positions per event/distance will constitute a reserve list of quota places. For each of the individual events/distances the reserve list consists of eight (8) reserve quota places. For each of the Team Pursuit events the reserve list consists of three (3) reserve quota places. https://www.isu.org/docman-documents-links-2/2022-beijing/qualification-systems-3/24307-speed-skating-v1-1/file Yes, you are right. China just needs to finish and not get disqualified during any of the following World Cup events. Right now they’re not on the reserve list as they have 0 points and no valid best time. Vic Liu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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