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Athletics Qualification to Summer Olympic Games Paris 2024


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2 hours ago, phelps said:

theoretically...but find another 2nd tier relay that can run 42.13 or better ;)

 

I wouldn't rule it out for Switzerland, though of course it would need for the Kambundjis to finally run in the relays.

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Updating how many quotas each country guarantees.
 

 

The qualification document indicates that each team can take 5 athletes on their gender relay and 4 athletes on their mixed relay
athletes with individual quota MUST participate in the M and F 4x100m and 4x400m, but it doesn't say anything regarding the mixed 4x400m (or I haven't found)

 

So I'm counting it as 5 (and 2 men and 2 women on the mixed relay), but obviously they could pick someone from 200m, 800m, 400m hurdles, etc.

(AFTER DAY 2)
120 female quotas (55 on 4x100m, 56 on 4x400, 9 on the mixed relay)
120 male quotas (58 on 4x100, 51 on 4x400, 11 on the mixed relay)

 

wow, it was 50%-50% if my math is right. Obviously, in the end, many if not most of these quotas will come through new EST or  individual ranking.


Female 4x100m


:AUSAUS - no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:CANCAN- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:FRAFRA- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GERGER- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NEDNED- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)
+

:CIVCIV- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NGRNGR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:SUISUI- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:TTOTTO- no women (gets 5 female quotas)



Male 4x100m

 

:CANCAN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:CHNCHN- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:FRAFRA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:ITAITA- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

+
:AUSAUS- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GERGER- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GHAGHA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:LBRLBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:RSARSA- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

 

 

Female 4x400m

:CANCAN- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:FRAFRA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:IRLIRL - 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:NORNOR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
+
:BELBEL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:ESPESP- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:INDIND- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
:NEDNED- 2 women (gets 3 quotas)
:SUISUI- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

 

Male 4x400m

 

:BOTBOT- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:BELBEL- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GERGER- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 2 man (gets 3 quotas)
:ITAITA- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)

:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:RSARSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
+
:BRABRA-
 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
:ESPESP
- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:INDIND- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:POLPOL- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:TTOTTO- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)


Mixed 4x400m

:BELBEL- 1 men + 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:DOMDOM- 1 men + 1 woman (gets 1 male + 1 female quota)

:FRAFRA- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:IRLIRL - 1 woman (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NEDNED - 1 man + 2 women (probably gets 1 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NGRNGR - 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:POLPOL- 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:USAUSA- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
+
:BAHBAH- 1 man (gets 1 male + 2 female quota)
:GERGER- 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:GBRGBR-  3 women + 1 man (no additional quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:JAMJAM- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
:SUISUI- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:UKRUKR- no athlete! (gets 2 male + 2 female quota)

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3 minutes ago, Pasolini said:

Updating how many quotas each country guarantees.
 

 

The qualification document indicates that each team can take 5 athletes on their gender relay and 4 athletes on their mixed relay
athletes with individual quota MUST participate in the M and F 4x100m and 4x400m, but it doesn't say anything regarding the mixed 4x400m (or I haven't found)

 

So I'm counting it as 5 (and 2 men and 2 women on the mixed relay), but obviously they could pick someone from 200m, 800m, 400m hurdles, etc.

(updating final calculations in a couple of minutes)

(QUOTAS OF DAY 1)
So apparently the first day offered 131 quotas
66 female quotas (30 on 4x100m, 32 on 4x400, 4 on the mixed relay)
65 male quotas (31 on 4x100, 26 on 4x400, 8 on the mixed relay)


Female 4x100m


:AUSAUS - no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:CANCAN- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:FRAFRA- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GERGER- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NEDNED- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)
+

:CIVCIV- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NGRNGR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:SUISUI- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:TTOTTO- no women (gets 5 female quotas)



Male 4x100m

 

:CANCAN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:CHNCHN- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:FRAFRA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:ITAITA- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

+
:AUSAUS- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GERGER- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GHAGHA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:LBRLBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:RSARSA- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

 

 

Female 4x400m

:CANCAN- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:FRAFRA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:IRLIRL - 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:NORNOR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
+
:BELBEL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:ESPESP- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:INDIND- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
:NEDNED- 2 women (gets 3 quotas)
:SUISUI- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

 

Male 4x400m

 

:BOTBOT- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:BELBEL- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GERGER- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 2 man (gets 3 quotas)
:ITAITA- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)

:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:RSARSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
+
:BRABRA-
 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
:ESPESP
- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:INDIND- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:POLPOL- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:TTOTTO- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)


Mixed 4x400m

:BELBEL- 1 men + 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:DOMDOM- 1 men + 1 woman (gets 1 male + 1 female quota)

:FRAFRA- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:IRLIRL - 1 woman (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NEDNED - 1 man + 2 women (probably gets 1 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NGRNGR - 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:POLPOL- 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:USAUSA- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
+
:BAHBAH- 1 man (gets 1 male + 2 female quota)
:GERGER- 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:GBRGBR-  3 women + 1 man (no additional quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:JAMJAM- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
:SUISUI- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:UKRUKR- no athlete! (gets 2 male + 2 female quota)

the maximum is 5 quotas and not 6? I just realized this :swimming:

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20 minutes ago, Benolympique said:

the maximum is 5 quotas and not 6? I just realized this :swimming:

yeah, the 6th quota is AP. As the 3rd male and 3rd female from mixed.

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Hammer Thrower Volodymyr Myslyvchuk, originally from :UKR has been living for quite some time in the Czech Republic and in January, he obtained Czech citizenship. Recently, he threw 77,31 m which means limit for ECH in June. Now, Czech athletic federation is dealing with WA whether he can represent :CZE at the ECH this year. I checked his ranking, he is currently 31st in Road to Paris and his last throw was only less than a meter from the strict limit to Paris. Do you guys think he may get an approval for ECH? If so, if he throws 78,20m or qualifies to Paris through the Olympic ranking, could he represent :CZE ??? I know the timing is quite tight and I remember that before there were some rules that you have to represent your new country for a year or two? Not quite sure..... before you can qualify for the Olympics representing your new country. Does anybody how is it right now before Paris? I also noticed some athletes, weightlifters switched to :BRN citizenship and qualified to Paris but I don't know how long ago they changed the nationality. Thanks. 

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On 5/6/2024 at 2:46 AM, Pasolini said:

Updating how many quotas each country guarantees.
 

 

The qualification document indicates that each team can take 5 athletes on their gender relay and 4 athletes on their mixed relay
athletes with individual quota MUST participate in the M and F 4x100m and 4x400m, but it doesn't say anything regarding the mixed 4x400m (or I haven't found)

 

So I'm counting it as 5 (and 2 men and 2 women on the mixed relay), but obviously they could pick someone from 200m, 800m, 400m hurdles, etc.

(AFTER DAY 2)
120 female quotas (55 on 4x100m, 56 on 4x400, 9 on the mixed relay)
120 male quotas (58 on 4x100, 51 on 4x400, 11 on the mixed relay)

 

wow, it was 50%-50% if my math is right. Obviously, in the end, many if not most of these quotas will come through new EST or  individual ranking.


Female 4x100m


:AUSAUS - no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:CANCAN- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:FRAFRA- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GERGER- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NEDNED- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)
+

:CIVCIV- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:NGRNGR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:SUISUI- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:TTOTTO- no women (gets 5 female quotas)



Male 4x100m

 

:CANCAN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:CHNCHN- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:FRAFRA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:ITAITA- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:JAMJAM- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

+
:AUSAUS- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GERGER- no men (gets 5 quotas)
:GHAGHA- no men (gets 5 quotas)

:LBRLBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:RSARSA- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

 

 

Female 4x400m

:CANCAN- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:FRAFRA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:GBRGBR- 3 women (gets 2 female quotas)

:IRLIRL - 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:ITAITA- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:NORNOR- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:POLPOL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)

:USAUSA- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
+
:BELBEL- 1 woman (gets 4 female quotas)
:ESPESP- no women (gets 5 female quotas)
:INDIND- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

:JAMJAM- 3 women (gets 2 quotas)
:NEDNED- 2 women (gets 3 quotas)
:SUISUI- no women (gets 5 female quotas)

 

Male 4x400m

 

:BOTBOT- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)

:BELBEL- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GBRGBR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:GERGER- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:JPNJPN- 2 man (gets 3 quotas)
:ITAITA- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)

:NGRNGR- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)

:RSARSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
+
:BRABRA-
 3 men (gets 2 quotas) 
:ESPESP
- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:INDIND- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:POLPOL- 0 man (gets 5 quotas)
:TTOTTO- 1 man (gets 4 quotas)
:USAUSA- 3 men (gets 2 quotas)


Mixed 4x400m

:BELBEL- 1 men + 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:DOMDOM- 1 men + 1 woman (gets 1 male + 1 female quota)

:FRAFRA- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:IRLIRL - 1 woman (probably gets 2 male quotas)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NEDNED - 1 man + 2 women (probably gets 1 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:NGRNGR - 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:POLPOL- 1 woman (probably no additional quota)* the male and female 4x400 qualifed above
:USAUSA- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
+
:BAHBAH- 1 man (gets 1 male + 2 female quota)
:GERGER- 1 man (probably gets 2 female quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:GBRGBR-  3 women + 1 man (no additional quota)* the male 4x400 qualifed above
:JAMJAM- 3 men + 3 women (no additional quota)
:SUISUI- no athlete! (probably gets 2 male quota)* the female 4x400 qualifed above
:UKRUKR- no athlete! (gets 2 male + 2 female quota)

Good work, but I think many countries will use the mixed to bring extra quotas as like you said, the “you must use individual quotas to count” in the gendered races doesn’t apply (and they can’t bring subs specifically for the mixed)

 

For Ireland I’m counting our women’s as 4 new quotas and mixed as 2 men and 2 women (Adeleke is already qualified). I expect Mawdsley will qualify in the women’s too so it might end up being 2 individuals, 5 women relay runners, 2 men relay runners 

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2 hours ago, Jan Linha said:

Hammer Thrower Volodymyr Myslyvchuk, originally from :UKR has been living for quite some time in the Czech Republic and in January, he obtained Czech citizenship. Recently, he threw 77,31 m which means limit for ECH in June. Now, Czech athletic federation is dealing with WA whether he can represent :CZE at the ECH this year. I checked his ranking, he is currently 31st in Road to Paris and his last throw was only less than a meter from the strict limit to Paris. Do you guys think he may get an approval for ECH? If so, if he throws 78,20m or qualifies to Paris through the Olympic ranking, could he represent :CZE ??? I know the timing is quite tight and I remember that before there were some rules that you have to represent your new country for a year or two? Not quite sure..... before you can qualify for the Olympics representing your new country. Does anybody how is it right now before Paris? I also noticed some athletes, weightlifters switched to :BRN citizenship and qualified to Paris but I don't know how long ago they changed the nationality. Thanks. 

The last international event he competed representing :UKR that I could found was the 2018 Euros. Three years has passed since that, so he wouldn't have any problems to represent another country.

 

Now it's only waiting until WA gives the thumbs up. We spaniards are in the same scenario waiting for former :CUB Yulemnis Aguilar is given the green ligth in time for the ECH cause she already has spanish nationality.

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1 hour ago, Jur said:

The last international event he competed representing :UKR that I could found was the 2018 Euros. Three years has passed since that, so he wouldn't have any problems to represent another country.

 

Now it's only waiting until WA gives the thumbs up. We spaniards are in the same scenario waiting for former :CUB Yulemnis Aguilar is given the green ligth in time for the ECH cause she already has spanish nationality.

Oh, I see. So it's about being at an international events and representing the country. So if he did not participate in other competitions where he would represent another country since 2018, so it should be fine, right. So now, let's hope Myslyvchuk and Aguilar get the green light from WA and can participate in ECH and possibly also at the Olympics 💪💪💪

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:SUD Yaseen ABDALLA

:JOR Moath ALKHAWALDEH

:CHA Valentin BETOUDJI

:CPV Samuel FREIRE

:ISV Eduardo Terrance GARCIA

:MLT Jordan GUSMAN

:PRK Il Ryong HAN

:MKD Dario IVANOVSKI

:CYP Amine KHADIRI

:KGZ Ilya TYAPKIN

:URU Cristhian ZAMORA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Men's Marathon

 

 

:MDA  Lilia FISIKOVICI

:NAM Helalia JOHANNES

:BHU Kinzang LHAMO

:LES Mokulubete Blandina MAKATISI

:BUL Militsa MIRCHEVA

:ZIM Rutendo Joan NYAHORA

:PRK Kwang-Ok RI

:NEP Shantoshi SHRESTHA

:KGZ Sardana TROFIMOVA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Women's Marathon

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jur said:

:SUD Yaseen ABDALLA

:JOR Moath ALKHAWALDEH

:CHA Valentin BETOUDJI

:CPV Samuel FREIRE

:ISV Eduardo Terrance GARCIA

:MLT Jordan GUSMAN

:PRK Il Ryong HAN

:MKD Dario IVANOVSKI

:CYP Amine KHADIRI

:KGZ Ilya TYAPKIN

:URU Cristhian ZAMORA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Men's Marathon

 

 

:MDA  Lilia FISIKOVICI

:NAM Helalia JOHANNES

:BHU Kinzang LHAMO

:LES Mokulubete Blandina MAKATISI

:BUL Militsa MIRCHEVA

:ZIM Rutendo Joan NYAHORA

:PRK Kwang-Ok RI

:NEP Shantoshi SHRESTHA

:KGZ Sardana TROFIMOVA

 

Receibed universiality quotas in Women's Marathon

 

 

It ´s official ?

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    • I would say they will not be eligible. But it realy abotut the wording every federation has in its papers. World Aquatics changes their policies several times (especially after Mazepin "solved the issues" persoanlly - as witnessed one russian Olympic champion)   Inoirtnat notes on FIS decisions:   FIS points are frozen for ruissns and belorussians - so the situation is not so complicated for a lot of them. The list of the AIN`s is not final as the list from ISU was. It means that persons mau be not only removed from the list but added as well. I expect russians to try some freestyle applications before the stage in China, for example. FIS has not problems with the deny of visa or entris by the host countries. So they kept the possibility to close the doors for the russians for all the countries as ICF did. No sanctions for this, no removing events from the Olympic qualification list, no host changes,   * * * * * Here is the the relevant extract from FIS papers for Aerials tram event. What do you think?
    • Not only Korostelev but all 3 russian entries. I will bring the detail 
    • And will bet that the IBU is a lot richer than the FIS because their wealth is based on German TV contracts.  
    • Russians filed an appeal to CAS against IBU. But I do not believe they will get any result in time to grab quotas. I suppose IBU will not agree to have "fast" hearings as FIS did. And i suppose IBU will fight in CAS without intention to lose as FIS did.
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