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Silver and Bronze!!! Don't want to sound like a sore loser, but yet again an American given gold in this event. My feed was a bit blurry, but the announcers sounded really surprised that he ended up on top. Not as bad as 2014 when a bland nothing run took gold.

Happy about silver and bronze! I predicted this result for the Canadians, but with Kleveland on top. Again a relatively unknown American taking home gold instead. Congrats to him.

Bloemen in the 5000m also has a shot. I mean, he is the WR holder in the event.

There were 9 in the final because of penalties and advancements. Usually there is 6. It was sort of ridiculous, but that's the name of the game. I thought the guys would pull it off, and unofficially predicted a silver and bronze behind the Korean. But like I said, short track is a crapshoot especially when there are so many in the final. The important thing is they stayed on their feet (unlike Sochi).

I was just kidding, of course.

People say they should get rid of women's hockey because only Canada and the USA can win. Well, statistically speaking, the Dutch have won a greater share of the total medals in speed skating in the last two Olympics than CAN and USA have in women's hockey combined. So maybe we should eliminate speed skating since it is not so competitive?

Glad to see we're keeping our national tradition of 4th place finishes alive and well. I kid, I kid. Not happy with the CBC coverage. I was watching the short track feed live here with an American friend who spent the whole day complaining about NBC. Then there's a random commercial every 2 minutes (the exact same one), interrupting the replays and results. So we switch to the main (TV) feed, and they skip the women's relay semis to show long track races that were done 20 minutes prior. They kept on building up the Canadians, who were actually racing at that exact moment. Then we go to the short track final, then back to long track where we see the 2nd last race and are told that Blondin goes to 5th place. Then we get a feature on Blondin and see her race where she goes into 3rd. Then we see the final pairing with her already down to 5th. Why? Anyway, not a terrible Day 1 for Canada. About par for course. Was hopeful for the 1500m, but it's a bit of a crapshoot. Snowboarders did well, going to the playoffs in mixed curling on a streak, other short track races are set, Edney in luge is doing well. Good chances at medals tomorrow.

I guess I should be happy that the Canadians at least stayed on their feet this time around. Not too disappointed, they will have other opportunities, but they didn't do their best that final. Glad our women moved on in the 500m and relay, though. 9 racers in a final is crazy.

I agree with you, but I think the Canadians will give him a run for his money. Should be an excellent final.

Ok, been traveling around the last week, trying to keep up with all the developments. Finally settled into my place here now and watched a bit of snowboarding this morning. Can't wait for short track in a couple of hours (luckily I'm just 2 hours behind KST here in Thailand). GO CANADA GO!

[hide] Sporting Rivalries and Medals (15) 1- On Day 1, the first 5 Gold Medals will be awarded to athletes from 5 different countries. [YES- 1] 2- At least 27 countries will win a Medal, surpassing the Sochi 2014 Games' total. [NO - 1] 3- At least 2 events will not result in the common 1 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze Medal Podium finish. [YES - 1] 4- South Korea will finish in the top five on the medal table. [NO - 10] 5- Canada will finish ahead of the USA in the medal table. [NO - 1] 6- By total medals won, Norway & Germany will win more than Canada & the United States, who in turn will win more than Japan & South Korea. [YES - 10] 7- At least one nation will win their first ever Gold Medal at a Winter Olympics. [YES - 1] 8- Excluding DNFs, at least one irish athlete will finish ahead of a briton. [NO - 1] 9- A nation will win six or more medals without winning gold. [YES - 7] 10- Austria will finish ahead of Switzerland in the medal table. [YES - 7] 11- We will have at least 5 Gold Medal winners being less than 18 years young on that given day. [YES - 1] 12- At least 3 Torino 2006 medalists will win a Medal in PyeongChang. [YES - 9] 13- At least one medal event will be postponed to another day. [NO - 1] 14- More women than men will win medals for the nation that will rank 1st on the medal table. [NO - 1] 15- At least 3 nations will win 10 or more gold medals. [NO - 1] Alpine Skiing (5) 16- Mikaela Shiffrin (USA) will win at least 3 Gold Medals. [NO - 1] 17- Norway will win the most medals on the Men's side. [NO - 5] 18- At least 33% of the starters in Men's Slalom will not reach the finish on the first run. [NO - 5] 19- Naoki Yuasa (JPN) will finish both legs in the Men's Slalom. [YES - 1] 20- The podium of at least one event will feature only countries associated with the Alpine Region (Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Slovenia and/or Switzerland). [YES - 5] Biathlon (5) 21- Johannes Thingnes Boe (NOR) will win more medals than Martin Fourcade (FRA) during the whole 2018 Winter Olympics.[NO - 1] 22- Anastasiya Kuzmina (SVK) will win her third olympic Sprint title in a row. [NO - 1] 23- An athlete who finished 21st or worst in the Sprint will win a Pursuit medal. [NO - 1] 24- There will be a Gold Medalist in the individual races with 1 or more misses on the shooting range. [YES - 1] 25- The Ukrainian team will win more total medals than Italy. [YES - 1] Bobsleigh (2) 26- Germany will win at least 6 medals between all events. [NO - 6] 27- Humphries (CAN) will win her third gold medal in two-women's bobsleigh. [YES - 4] Cross-country Skiing (5) 28- On the Women's side, all 6 Gold Medals will go to Norway. [NO - 4] 29- Overall, medals will not go to more than 6 nations. [NO - 1] 30- Swiss athletes will win more total medals than Olympic Athletes from Russia. [NO - 1] 31- The Men's Sprint will see a medalist who finished 21st-30th in the Qualification. [NO - 1] 32- The athlete leading the Men's Skiathlon at half-point will eventually win it. [NO - 1] Curling (3) 33- Canada will defend its Gold Medals in both the Men's and Women's events. [YES - 3] 34- A team from Asia will medal in any Curling event. [YES - 7] 35- The italian men's team will win at least 2 games. [NO - 1] Figure Skating (3) 36- The north korean pair will finish ahead of their south korean counterpart. [NO - 1] 37- Spain will win its first ever medal in Figure Skating. [NO - 1] 38- No nation will win medals in both Men's and Women's Singles. [YES - 7] Freestyle Skiing (5) 39- Devin Logan (USA) will win both the Women's Slopestyle and the Women's Halfpipe. [NO - 4] 40- Dominique Ohaco (CHI) will achieve Chile's best ever Winter Olympic result - bettering 11th place in Men's Alpine Combined from 1998. [YES - 1] 41- Sweden will be represented in the Women's Ski Cross Final by at least 2 athletes. [NO - 10] 42- No athlete who was victorious at the 2018 Winter X Games will win a Gold Medal in Pyeongchang. [NO - 10] 43- South Korea will win at least 1 medal, while Australia will win at least 3. [NO - 10] Ice Hockey (5) 44- A team from Group B will defeat a team from Group A in the Quarterfinals of the Women's Tournament. [YES - 5] 45- At least one match in the Men's Tournament will finish scoreless in regular time (60 Minutes). [NO - 5] 46- The Women's Unified Korean Team will win a match. [NO - 5] 47- Russia will win the Gold Medal in the Men's Tournament. [YES - 5] 48- Sweden will finish ahead of Finland in the Men's Tournament. [YES - 1] Luge (2) 49- Germany will win all 4 Gold Medals. [YES - 10] 50- In at least one event the eventual winner won't be in first place after the first run. [YES - 5] Nordic Combined (2) 51- In both Individual events, the first-placed Athlete(s) after Ski Jumping will not win a Medal. [NO - 1] 52- Germany will sweep (win Gold, Silver and Bronze) at least one of the individual events. [NO - 1] Skeleton (2) 53- The margin of the Men's and Women's winners to the Silver Medalists combined will add up to at least 1 second. [NO - 1] 54- South Korea will win its first ever Gold Medal in Skeleton. [NO - 6] Ski Jumping (3) 55- Poland will win at least one gold medal. [NO - 1] 56- At least two athletes will win medals in both men's individual events. [NO - 1] 57- The podium in the Women's Normal Hill will feature at least 2 of the following athletes: Katharina Althaus (GER), Sara Takanashi (JPN), Maren Lundby (NOR). [NO - 1] Short Track Speed Skating (3) 58- In all individual events, at least 3 participants will be relegated or disqualified in the A-Finals. [YES - 6] 59- South Korea will win all 8 Gold Medals. [NO - 10] 60- Two different athletes will win a medal for Hungary. [NO - 1] Snowboarding (5) 61- Czech Republic will win at least one Gold Medal. [NO - 5] 62- There will be an athlete who will win at least 2 Gold Medals. [NO - 2] 63- The winner in the Men's Halfpipe will receive a higher score than the winner of the same event at the 2014 Winter Olympics (higher than 94,75). [YES - 1] 64- Both Snowboard Cross events (Men + Women) will be won by european athletes. [YES - 2] 65- In his sixth consecutive Winter Olympics, Jasey-Jay Anderson (CAN) will win a Medal. [NO - 10] Speed Skating (5) 66- There will be a clean sweep (to win Gold, Silver and Bronze) by the dutch in at least one event. [YES - 5] 67- At least 5 men will clock under 13 minutes in the Men's 10,000m. [YES - 1] 68- The Bronze Medal winning team in any Team Pursuit will clock a faster time than either of the Finalists. [YES - 2] 69- Four continents will win a medal. [NO - 10] 70- At least 2 athletes will win 2 or more individual Gold Medals. [YES - 1] [/hide]

[hide] Event & Date Athletes Gold Silver Bronze Short Track Speed Skating Men's 1500m Day 1 February 10th, 2018 Charles Hamelin Samuel Girard x Shaoang Liu Saolin Sandor Liu x Sjinkie Knegt Lim Hyuo Jun Seo Yi-Ra Hwang Dae Heon x John Celski Any Other Athlete Luge Men's Singles Day 2 February 11th, 2018 Reinhard Egger Wolfgang Kindl Samuel Edney Andi Langenhan x Felix Loch x Johannes Ludwig Dominik Fischnaller Kevin Fischnaller Kristers Aparjods x Semen Pavlichenko Roman Repilov Tucker West Any Other Athlete Speed Skating Men's 5000m Day 2 February 11th, 2018 Bart Swings Ted-Jan Bloemen x Patrick Beckert Moritz Geisreiter Nicola Tumolero Andrea Giovannini Sven Kramer x Jan Blokhuijsen Bob de Vries Peter Michael Sverre Lunde Pedersen Lee Seung-Hoo x Any Other Athlete Speed Skating Women's 1500m Day 3 February 12th, 2018 Any Athlete from Canada Any Athlete from Germany Miho Takagi Lotte van Beek x Marrit Leenstra Ireen Wust Heather Bergsma Brittany Bowe x Any Olympic Athl. from Russia Any Other Athlete x Luge Women's Singles Day 4 February 13th, 2018 Alex Gough Kimberley McRae Dajana Eitberger Natalie Geisenberger x Tatjana Huefner x Raluca Stramaturaru Viktoriia Demchenko Tatyana Ivanova Martina Kocher Summer Britcher Erin Hamlin x Emily Sweeney Any Other Athlete Figure Skating Mixed Pairs Day 5 February 15th, 2018 Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya Harley Windsor Megan Duhamel Eric Radford x Julianne Seguin Charlie Bilodeau Sui Wenjing Han Cong Yu Xiaoyu Zhang Hao x Vanessa James Morgan Cipres x Aliona Savchenko Bruno Massot Any Pair from Italy Any Pair from Italy Ksenia Stolbova Fedor Klimov Evgenia Tarasova Vladimir Morozov Natalia Zabiiako Alexander Enbert Alexa Scimeca Knierim Chris Knierim Any Other Pair Any Other Pair Skeleton Men's Skeleton Day 6 February 16th, 2018 Any Athlete from Canada Christopher Grotheer Axel Jungk Any Athlete from Great Britain Martins Dukurs x Tomass Dukurs x Nikita Tregubov Alexander Tretiakov Sungbin Yun Matt Antoine Any Other Athlete x Skeleton Women's Skeleton Day 7 February 17th, 2018 Janine Flock Kim Meylemans Jane Channell Mirela Rahneva Elisabeth Vathje Tina Hermann Jacqueline Loelling Laura Deas Lizzy Yarnold x Kimberley Bos Elena Nikitina Any Athlete from United States x Any Other Athlete x Figure Skating Men's Singles Day 7 February 17th 2018 Patrick Chan Jin Boyang Moris Kvitelashvili Oleksii Bychenko Yuzuru Hanyu x Shoma Uno Denis Ten x Mikhail Kolyada Dmitri Aliev Javier Fernandez Nathan Chen x Adam Rippon Misha Ge Any Other Athlete Speed Skating Men's 500m Day 8 February 19th, 2018 Alex Boisvert-Lacroix Mika Poutala Nico Ihle Any Athlete from Japan Kai Verbij x Ronald Mulder Jan Smeekens x Havard Holmefjord Lorentzen Any Athlete from South Korea x Any Athlete from United States Any Other Athlete Bobsleigh Women's 2-Man Day 9 February 21st, 2018 Elfje Willemsen Kaillie Humphries x Alysia Rissling Mica McNeill Mariama Jamanka Anna Koehler Stephanie Schneider Nadezhda Sergeeva Sabina Hafner Jamie Greubel Poser x Elana Meyers Taylor x Any Other Athlete Freestyle Skiing Men's Ski Cross Day 9 February 21st, 2018 Any Athlete from Austria Any Athlete from Canada x Jean-Frederic Chapuis Terence Tchiknavorian Francois Place Arnaud Bovolenta Paul Eckert Victor Oehling Norberg Viktor Andersson Marc Bischofberger Alex Fiva x Any Other Athlete x Short Track Speed Skating Women's 1000m Day 10 February 22nd, 2018 Kim Boutin x Marianne St-Gelais Elise Christie Arianna Fontana Yara van Kerkhof Suzanne Schulting Lee Yu-Bin Choi Min-Jeong x Shim Suk-Hee x Any Other Athlete Figure Skating Women's Singles Day 11 February 23rd, 2018 Loena Hendrickx Gabrielle Daleman Kaetlyn Osmond Carolina Kostner Satoko Miyahara Kaori Sakamoto Elisabet Tursynbayeva Evgenia Medvedeva x Maria Sotskova Alina Zagitova Mirai Nagasu Bradie Tennell x Any Other Athlete x Freestyle Skiing Women's Ski Cross Day 11 February 23rd, 2018 Sami Kennedy-Sim Andrea Limbacher Kelsey Serwa x Brittany Phelan Marielle Berger Sabbatel Alizee Baron Debora Pixner Sandra Naeslund Fanny Smith x Any Other Athlete x Speed Skating Women's Mass Start Day 12 February 24th, 2018 Ivanie Blondin Any Athlete from China x Elena Moeller Rigas Claudia Pechstein x Francesca Lollobrigida x Francesca Bettrone Any Athlete from Japan Irene Schouten Annouk van der Weijden Any Athlete from United States Any Other Athlete Snowboarding Men's Parallel Giant Slalom Day 12 February 24th, 2018 Alexander Payer x Andreas Prommegger Benjamin Karl x Radoslav Yankov Jasey-Jay Anderson Sylvain Dufour x Roland Fischnaller Edwin Coratti Mirko Felicetti Rok Marguc Lee Sang-Ho Nevin Galmarini Andrey Sobolev Any Other Athlete Snowboarding Women's Parallel Giant Slalom Day 12 February 24th, 2018 Julia Dujmovits Sabine Schöffmann Claudia Riegler x Ina Meschik Ester Ledecka Ramona Hofmeister Selina Jörg x Carolin Langenhorst Gloria Kotnik Julie Zogg x Ladina Jenny Ekaterina Tudegesheva Alena Zavarzina Any Other Athlete Bobsleigh Men's Four-Man Day 13 February 25th, 2018 Benjamin Maier Justin Kripps x Chris Spring Francesco Friedrich Johannes Lochner Nico Walther x Oskars Kibermanis Oskars Melbardis Alexander Kasjanov Yunjong Won x Rico Peter Any Athlete from United States Any Other Athlete Curling Women's Tournament Day 13 February 25th, 2018 Canada x China x Denmark Great Britain Japan South Korea Sweden Switzerland x United States Any Olympic Athl. from Russia Curling Men's Tournament Day 13 February 25th, 2018 Canada x Denmark Great Britain Italy Japan Norway x South Korea Sweden Switzerland United States x [/hide]

[hide] Women's Tournament Preliminary Round February 10th - February 15th, 2018 8 Nations, 2 Groups, the 1st and 2nd Nations from Group A will qualify for the Semifinals, the 3rd and 4th Nations from Group A and 1st and 2nd Nations from Group B will qualify for the Quarterfinals, the 3rd and 4th Nations from Group B will qualify for the 5th-8th Places Semifinals Group A Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 February 11th 2018, h. 16:40 Finland 6 United States February 11th 2018, h. 21:10 Canada 8 Olympic Athletes form Russia February 13th 2018, h. 16:40 Canada 4 Finland February 13th 2018, h. 21:10 United States 6 Olympic Athletes from Russia February 15th 2018, h. 12:10 United States 1 Canada February 15th 2018, h. 16:40 Olympic Athletes from Russia 2 Finland Group B Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 February 10th 2018, h. 16:40 Japan 3 Sweden February 10th 2018, h. 21:10 Switzerland 5 South Korea February 12th 2018, h. 16:40 Sweden 5 South Korea February 12th 2018, h. 21:10 Switzerland 1 Japan February 14th 2018, h. 12:10 Sweden 2 Switzerland February 14th 2018, h. 16:40 South Korea 2 Japan Men's Tournament Preliminary Round February 14th - February 18th, 2018 12 Nations, 3 Groups, the 1st Nations from each Group and the best 2nd ranked Nation between all Groups will qualify for the Quarterfinals, the other Nations will qualify for the Round of 16 Group A Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 February 15th 2018, h. 21:10 Czech Republic 2 South Korea February 15th 2018, h. 21:10 Switzerland 2 Canada February 17th 2018, h. 12:10 Canada 3 Czech Republic February 17th 2018, h. 16:40 South Korea 3 Switzerland February 18th 2018, h. 16:40 Czech Republic 1 Switzerland February 18th 2018, h. 21:10 Canada 6 South Korea Group B Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 February 14th 2018, h. 21:10 Slovakia 1 Olympic Athletes from Russia February 14th 2018, h. 21:10 United States 5 Slovenia February 16th 2018, h. 12:10 United States 3 Slovakia February 16th 2018, h. 16:40 Olympic Athletes from Russia 4 Slovenia February 17th 2018, h. 21:10 Olympic Athletes from Russia 2 United States February 17th 2018, h. 21:10 Slovenia 3 Slovakia Group C Date & Time (GMT +9) Nation 1 T1 T2 Nation 2 February 15th 2018, h. 12:10 Finland 4 Germany February 15th 2018, h. 16:40 Norway 6 Sweden February 16th 2018, h. 21:10 Finland 4 Norway February 16th 2018, h. 21:10 Sweden 7 Germany February 18th 2018, h. 12:10 Germany 2 Norway February 18th 2018, h. 21:10 Sweden 2 Finland [/hide]

Hi Topicmaster! Welcome aboard! Nice list, thanks for doing that.

Canadian team: Men: Samuel Girard Charles Hamelin Charle Cournoyer François Hamelin Pascal Dion Women: Kim Boutin Jamie Macdonald Kasandra Bradette Marianne St-Gelais Valérie Maltais I expect a lot from this team. Got to see them in Shanghai a couple of months ago, and it is very strong.

Does anyone know where to find information on what will be on offer at the Gangneung cluster? I know the Canadian House will be there, but I'm having difficulty finding any more information. We planned to arrive early to see what's going on, but I just realized the flame will (likely) be at Alpensia park since that's the main area where the ceremonies will be. We're now considering hopping off the train one stop early to see what's going on there, but that will mean complicated shuttles over to Gangneung to get to the hockey game. Not sure if it's worth the headache, but if you're going to the Olympics you should see the flame, right? The other option is to go back to the area on Saturday before our evening flight out, and then take the train to Incheon. But then what do we do with our luggage? Anyway, not sure if it's worth all this headache or if Gangneung will have enough to entertain us before and between events. Edit: I found this list of hospitality houses: https://medium.com/road-to-pyeongchang/olympic-hospitality-house-list-pyeongchang-ultimate-guide-to-pyeongchang-2018-cee00632a2c3 in addition to Canada, the Gangneung cluster will host Czech, Japan and...wait for it...the Holland Heineken House! So, yeah, I think my friend and I will find enough Asahi, Urquell and Heineken to keep us busy between events. Russia is also on that list, but I'm not sure now.

Great choice for Canada!

Well, as I said I decided to just drop by for a few days instead. I'll be sitting on a beach in Thailand the rest of the time. Much cheaper...and warmer! Yeah, lots of tickets for everything. Unfortunately, only the very expensive tickets left for short track ($350). I'm surprised short track is available at all still, considering how popular it is in Korea. I expect that to sell out soon. Biathlon and other ski events are plentiful and cheap.

I will! I'm actually only going to be in Korea for 3 days, and at the Olympics for 1 because I will stay in Seoul. It'll be a long day - 8am train out to Gangneung, returning after midnight. Really, really excited! Everyone is saying that the ticket sales are low because of North Korea, but I would have stayed much longer and bought many more tickets if it was organized better. There was no way to really stay near the events. Luckily I used to live in Seoul and know my way around, but I didn't want to take the train every day there and back (expensive and tiresome). All my friends in Seoul want to go see things, and maybe they'd pay the Olympic ticket prices. But then add $50 for a return train trip, 2 hours each way, and very few of them are going to bother going. The North is a nice scapegoat, but I think the organizers have to take some responsibility. But still very excited!

I'm going to the women's gold medal hockey game and then the men's curling semifinals, both on 02/22. If Canada's men make it to the hockey semis the next day I will try to get tickets for that as well.

Yay! Was able to get to Korea for the Olympics after all! Going to be there at the end, got tickets for the women's gold medal hockey game, which should be even more fun because I'm going with an American. Also got tickets to the men's curling semis the same day. If Canada's men get to the hockey semis the next day I'll try to get tickets for that, too. Leaving before the gold medal game, though (stupid work!). Tried to get short track tickets, but only the super expensive ones are left ($400). I did finally get to see some short track here in China a couple of months ago, so that'll have to hold me. So stoked! Always wanted to go to the Olympics!

Hey there Canada (esp. intoronto)! I've been in China which basically blocks everything. Long story, but I should finally have access to this place, just in time for the lead up to the Olympics. I used to live in South Korea, so disappointed that I will miss this one. Tried to make it work, but the tickets and accommodations were just way too expensive. I could have stayed in Seoul, but that's missing the point. I was going to drop by the final weekend, but it didn't work out. Instead I'll be on a beach in Thailand watching instead. Tough life, I know. Just excited I can finally come here and elsewhere (CBC was also blocked).

Yup. When you consider the team competition in 2014, our weakest point was the women's and to have two medalists here is very encouraging. We should have threats in every discipline in Korea.

It's sort of disappointing that the Korean writing is just the English names in Hanguel. "Ru-jee" = Luge. "Ah-ee-ssuh H-ah-ki" = Ice Hockey. And so on. I would have liked them to have the Korean names, if only so I could actually learn the Korean names. On the other hand, if anyone here is planning to go next year you can learn Hanguel (the written language, speaking is a bit more difficult hence me wanting to learn the words) on the plane over, it's super simple. Then you can get around easily. Can't wait!

My Korean friend tells me that tickets for 2018 will go on sale in February. No word yet if it's just for Koreans or for everyone yet. Luckily I have enough contacts to secure me some curling and speed skating dates. Hopefully hockey, too.