Adriano 591 Posted April 16, 2021 #201 Share Posted April 16, 2021 -69 4 + ranking -69KG Name NOC POINTS WC '19 WC'17 Pan Starts QQT Eligible Q Roniel Iglesias CUB 320 90 80 150 3 ? E Q Rohan Polanco DOM 190 90 X 100 2 ? E Q Delante Johnson USA 135 60 X 75 2 ? E Q Gabriel Maestre VEN 105 X 30 75 2 ? E QR Wyatt Sanford CAN 60 60 X X 2 YES E R1 Brian Arregui ARG 45 45 X X X 1 NE X Quinton Randall USA 30 X 30 X X 1 NE X Juan Solano DOM 30 X 30 X X 1 NE NR Jimmy Brenes GUA 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Alexander Rangel COL 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Luis Miranda PER 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Tyler Thomas TTO 0 0 X 0 2 ? E NR Luis da Silva BRA 0 0 X X 1 ? NE NR Brayn Polaco PPO 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE -75kg 4 + ranking -75KG Name NOC POINTS WC '19 WC'17 Pan Starts QQT Eligible Q1 Arlen Lopez CUB 270 90 30 150 3 ? E Q2 Hebert Conceicao BRA 250 150 X 100 2 ? E Q3 Troy Isley USA 125 X 50 75 2 ? E Q4? Lesther Espino NCA 75 X X 75 1 ? NE X Javier Martinez USA 60 60 X X 1 ? NE QR Euri Cedeno DOM 60 60 X 0 2 ? E R1 Jorge Vivas COL 30 X 30 0 2 ? E NR Francisco Veron ARG 0 0 X 0 2 ? E NR Aaron Prince TTO 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Bryan Angulo ECU 0 0 X X 1 ? NE NR Luis Hernandez PAN 0 X 0 0 1 ? NE NR Lester Martínez GUA 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE NR Luis Rodriguez PUR 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE -81kg - 4 + ranking -81KG Name NOC POINTS WC '19 WC'17 Pan Starts QQT Eligible Q Julio Cesar La Cruz CUB 400 150 100 150 3 ? E X Arlen Lopez CUB 202,5 67,5 22,5 112,5 3 ? E (-75kg) Q Keno Machado BRA 160 60 X 100 2 ? E Q Nalek Korbaj VEN 75 0 X 75 2 ? E Q Carlos Andres Mina ECU 50 X 50 X 1 ? NE QR Jorge Vivas COL 22,5 X 22,5 0 2 ? E (75 or 81) R1 Rogelio Romero MEX 20 X 20 0 2 ? E X Alberto Ramirez VEN 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE X Michel de Souza BRA 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE X Jeysson Monroy COL 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE X Luis Georges DOM 0 X X 0 1 ? NE X Diego Motoa COL 0 0 X X 1 ? NE X Atif Oberlton USA 0 0 X X 1 ? NE -91 kg 3 + ranking -91KG Name NOC POINTS WC '19 WC'17 Pan Starts QQT Eligible Q Julio Castillo ECU 340 240 X 100 2 ? E Q Erislandy Savon CUB 340 90 100 150 3 ? E X Julio Cesar La Cruz CUB 300 150 100* 150 3 ? E (81kg) Q Abner Teixeira BRA* 120 45 X 75 2 ? E QR Jose Lucar PER 75 X X 75 1 ? NE R1 Deivi Julio COL 20 0 20 0 3 ? E X Juan Goncalves BRA 20 X 20 X 1 ? NE NR Adrian Tillman USA 0 0 X X 1 ? NE NR Bryan Colwell CAN 0 X X 0 1 NO NE NR Joaquín Berroa DOM 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Francisco Cantabrana MEX 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Yamil Peralta ARG 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE NR Jeffry Gonzalez NCA 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE * ? Abner da Silva ? +91 kg Men's +91 kg 3 America + ranking Name NOC POINTS WC '19 WC'17 Pan Starts QQT Eligible Q Richard Torrez USA 165 90 X 75 2 ? E Q Dainier Pero CUB 150 X X 150 1 ? NE Q Cristian Salcedo COL 130 0 30 100 3 ? E QR Ricardo Brown JAM 75 X X 75 1 ? NE R1 Nigel Paul TTO 60 60 0 0 3 ? E NR Darwin Rodríguez NCA 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Luis Muñoz Munayco PER 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Cosme dos Santos BRA 0 X X 0 1 ? NE NR Luis Calderón ARG 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE NR Dirk Wells NCA 0 X 0 X 1 ? NE NR Joel Da Silva BRA 0 0 X X 1 ? NE NR Andy Andall GRD 0 0 X X 1 ? NE Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 3,198 Posted April 16, 2021 #202 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/15/2021 at 11:24 PM, konig said: I cant believe this........ the boxing is a complete disaster. Expand Like for these Olympics specifically or just in general? Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Federer91 2,890 Posted April 16, 2021 #203 Share Posted April 16, 2021 And the tight race between boxing and weightlifting for the most absurd and stupid qualifications is getting closer and closer. Just when you think, one is getting a lead, the other catches up with a new twist, after a talk with the team-IOC radio. Who is going to bring home the victory? Who is going to outdo themselves? Stay tuned for the exciting final stages of this historic 5 year race! Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 5,855 Posted April 16, 2021 #204 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Really unfair system: https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-sports/kitcheners-mandy-bujold-heartbroken-after-olympic-qualifier-scrapped-3638955 Cleary the IOC doesn't care about gender equality!! Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,559 Posted April 16, 2021 #205 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:36 PM, intoronto said: Really unfair system: https://www.kitchenertoday.com/local-sports/kitcheners-mandy-bujold-heartbroken-after-olympic-qualifier-scrapped-3638955 Cleary the IOC doesn't care about gender equality!! Expand How does gender equality factor into this? It's not like they are hosting the men's events and not the women's. "Continental inequality" would be a better term. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intoronto 5,855 Posted April 16, 2021 #206 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:42 PM, JoshMartini007 said: How does gender equality factor into this? It's not like they are hosting the men's events and not the women's. "Continental inequality" would be a better term. Expand Women who are pregnant had no chance to qualify for this tournament, ie Bujold Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 8,070 Posted April 16, 2021 #207 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:45 PM, intoronto said: Women who are pregnant had no chance to qualify for this tournament, ie Bujold Expand It’s an interesting point. Changing the ranking criteria or changing the system without holding a qualifier would also be incredibly unfair to those in position to qualify. Either way, if a direct qualifier isn’t held, it doesn’t seem the like a fair process at this point. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,559 Posted April 16, 2021 #208 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:45 PM, intoronto said: Women who are pregnant had no chance to qualify for this tournament, ie Bujold Expand Considering that the rankings for Pan American nations are based on results from almost two years ago there are a lot of reasons why we won't get to see the best athletes in our continent compete. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshMartini007 2,559 Posted April 16, 2021 #209 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:57 PM, Olympian1010 said: It’s an interesting point. Changing the ranking criteria or changing the system without holding a qualifier would also be incredibly unfair to those in position to qualify. Either way, if a direct qualifier isn’t held, it doesn’t seem the like a fair process at this point. Expand Pretty much, without a qualifier there isn't a fair way to do this. Like if we don't use the rankings the only other options are a) No one goes or b) The IOC/Whoever is in charge of boxing appoints athletes. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NearPup 3,198 Posted April 16, 2021 #210 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/16/2021 at 9:57 PM, Olympian1010 said: It’s an interesting point. Changing the ranking criteria or changing the system without holding a qualifier would also be incredibly unfair to those in position to qualify. Either way, if a direct qualifier isn’t held, it doesn’t seem the like a fair process at this point. Expand TBH it would almost be more fair to have a group of experts award the slots than having a frankly arbitrary ranking do the work. Link to comment https://totallympics.com/forums/topic/960-boxing-qualification-to-tokyo-2020-summer-olympic-games/page/21/#findComment-364484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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