phelps 7,670 Posted November 12, 2019 Author #61 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, MHSN said: but that least that's much better than losing your chance completely for reasons you can't do anything about. I asked that question because unless something extra ordinary happens tonight (or tomorrow morning), Iran is going to miss the Sabre World Cup in Egypt, for the same old reason. denying visa. they are still trying through FIE though. the first thing I checked was to see who are the hosts of the next world Cups, Italy, Hungary and Poland, none of them are notorious to create these kind of problems , so hopefully nothing bad happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benolympique 2,398 Posted November 18, 2019 #62 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Zonal Qualifier – Asia & Oceania April 15–16, 2020 Seoul Zonal Qualifier – Africa April 17–18, 2020 Cairo Zonal Qualifier – America April 17–18, 2020 Panama City Zonal Qualifier – Europe April 18–19, 2020 Madrid phelps, AlFHg and George_D 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 18, 2019 #63 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Benolympique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted November 25, 2019 Author #64 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) Edited November 25, 2019 by phelps Benolympique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 25, 2019 #65 Share Posted November 25, 2019 With Verwijlen 14th currently holding the European quota and Tulen 17th, I found out that the Dutch NOC requirement to not refuse a quota (earned through ranking or the qualification tournament) this time is to be in Top 14 of the ranking (max. 3 fencers per country) as of April 2020...totally insane in an event where almost everyone who qualify has a realistic chance to win a medal. Wumo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Linha 590 Posted November 26, 2019 #66 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Epee has absolutely insane ranking. If you realize there is 8th in Rank Kurbanov who has not secured the Olympic spot or on 10th place Minobe who is currently FIE Rank world No.3 .... Just proves it is getting more difficult to get to the Olympics than win a medal in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympian1010 7,971 Posted November 26, 2019 #67 Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jan Linha said: Epee has absolutely insane ranking. If you realize there is 8th in Rank Kurbanov who has not secured the Olympic spot or on 10th place Minobe who is currently FIE Rank world No.3 .... Just proves it is getting more difficult to get to the Olympics than win a medal in there. From what I can tell, this is more of a team’s being better than individuals issue. They’ll still have a second chance of course at the zonal qualifiers next year. “Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. Sport can create hope where once there was only despair” - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted November 26, 2019 Author #68 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Olympian1010 said: From what I can tell, this is more of a team’s being better than individuals issue. They’ll still have a second chance of course at the zonal qualifiers next year. yeah, with just 1 or 2 places up for grabs... when you have at least all the top 50 in the WR well capable on a given day to win a world cup medal (if not a major title)... there's really too little room for fencers not coming from the top 6/7 Nations in each discipline (especially Epee), who are granted their spot in the individual events only because of the team qualification (which is even more crazy when you think that also a almost non existent continent like Africa has a granted team spot, if they are just decent enough to make the top 16 -when only 4 teams overall does qualify other than the continental representation -also in this case, only 1 place for Europe compared to the same treatment for the Americas, that obviously don't have the same depth)... to me, there are many things to be reviewed in the Fencing Olympic status and qualification process (they absolutely deserve more teams in the team events -with a different balance in the continental representation- and more individual spot for athletes not coming from those stronger teams)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phelps 7,670 Posted November 26, 2019 Author #69 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Edited November 26, 2019 by phelps Benolympique 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunadan 1,103 Posted November 26, 2019 #70 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Finally the full Olympic rankings also available on the FIE site: https://tokyo2020.fie.org/ranks#tab-table Spoiler or maybe they were there since the beginning and I've never noticed them. Edited November 26, 2019 by Dunadan Wumo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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